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A true REAL combo that's vented. I could get into that!!!! For those that don't know my historym I had gas vented Lady Kenmore Combos around me as well as a Bendix Duomatic or 2 and even one Norge Combo. Wonder what load sizer is recommended to allow complete auto wash & dry without sacrificing performance to allow load to completely dry. [this post was last edited: 3/30/2025-15:35]
 
Ya know Jerome, you weren't around back when Bendix brought out the Duomatic. They performed very well. Bendix invented it. Whirlpool developed their own and predominantly sold them with the Lady Kenmore moniker on them and were full featured. Some models even had onboard heaters. Next door neighbor had two different models and loved them and mourned the day they were no longer produced.

Hopefully LG will come out with their own design. I am very curious as to length of cycle wash and dry. If LG, I might be interested in one or two. But then I despise top load washers whether they be agitator or wash plate.
 
For those unaware..

Bendix invented first washer/dryer combination unit. Sadly for everyone else as with their front loading washing machines Bendix had a lock on various patents. Anyone else with ideas in that direction (such as just plain front loading washer) had to either work around Bendix's patents, or pay up.

That didn't stop WP/Lady Kenmore, Maytag and others from coming up with combo units.

More is the pity combo units basically vanished from American laundry scene, those that knew and had them often loved such units and deeply lamented not being able to replace or otherwise find new.

https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?11272

https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREADM.cgi?37489







 
Have told this story before..

At school our home economics suite of classrooms had a laundry fitted out with a combination washer/dryer unit. Having never seen such a thing (much less a front loading washer for that matter) was in awe. Home economics teachers complained about using the thing during drought periods because it was a condenser dryer that needed water to cool exhaust.

Looking back realize reasons for combo being chosen for that new school (built in 1960's) school were same as whey such units are being installed in multi-family housing in our area today, lack of access to exterior wall for venting.
 
I mean, yeah, that was an obvious next step - really not sure why I never thought of that.

Given they have the space for a complete heat pump system in that base machine, just chucking in a normal heater and maybe a bit larger fan isn't terribly hard to do.

Would be curious as to how well that senses.
You can't really do any conductivity checking - so it's gotta be all thermal.
 
“Sadly for everyone else as with their front loading washing machines Bendix had a lock on various patients. Anyone who else with ideas in that direction (such as a plain front loading washer) had to either work around Bendix’s patents or pay up”.

That’s one of the many reasons why front loaders never caught on in the 50’s and 60’s era. Not only the patents were the issue, but the lethargically slow spin speeds and ergonomics in how things were laid out, among many other factors. Companies just went to top loading designs since it wasn’t a patent or idea by a single entity or company, could have a different internal design and control panel without having a royalty to anyone, or fight in court.

Another thing too is if you were one of those to have one of the earliest automatics Bendix made in the late 1930’s, early early 1940’s, then were to trade in for a Frigidaire Unimatic or a Whirlpool in the early 1950’s, would have been more than delighted with the spin speeds and rinsing performance (slow by today’s standards, but was light years ahead around that time). Many of those people who essentially were Guinea pigs in the very early days of automatic washers then upgraded in the 1950’s were more than happy with the flexibility, washing and rinsing performance, spin speeds and probably thought something along the lines of “Why look back on when you had to bolt the machine down, items that essentially were dripping wet, things not laid out ergonomically, this is the future from here on out”.
 
Hold up!

There is a gas heated model?

From owners manual.

Electrical requirements

The wiring diagram is located on the plate under the control panel or rear frame.

WARNING

• Improperly connecting the equipment grounding conductor can result in a risk of electric shock. Check with a qualified electrician or serviceman if you are in doubt as to whether your Laundry Combo is properly grounded. Do not modify the plug provided with your Laundry Combo – if it doesn’t fit the outlet, have a proper outlet installed by a qualified electrician.

• To prevent unnecessary risk of fire, electrical shock, or personal injury, all wiring and grounding must be done in accordance with local codes, or in the absence of local codes, in accordance with the National Electrical Code, ANSI/NFPA No. 70-Latest Revision (for the U.S.) or the Canadian Electrical Code CSA C22.1 – Latest Revisions and local codes and ordinances. It is your responsibility to provide adequate electrical service for your Laundry Combo.

• All gas installations must be done in accordance with the national Fuel Code ANSI/Z2231 – Latest Revision (for the U.S.) or CAN/CGA – B149 Installation Codes – Latest Revision (for Canada) and local codes and ordinances.

Grounding

This Laundry Combo must be grounded. In the event of a malfunction or breakdown, the ground will reduce the risk of electrical shock by providing a path of least resistance for the electrical current.

Gas models

WARNING

• Your Laundry Combo has a cord with an equipment-grounding conductor and a grounding plug. The plug must be plugged into an appropriate outlet that is properly installed and grounded in accordance with all local codes and ordinances.

• Do not modify the plug provided with your Laundry Combo – if it doesn’t fit the outlet, have a proper outlet installed by a qualified electrician.

• Do not connect the ground wire to plastic plumbing lines, gas lines, or hot water pipes.

/quote
 
I know certain EU combos use the drying heater for heating (certain newer BSH models, specifically).
Don't understand why this couldn't - it wouldn't be very effective, but certainly faster than 1300W.
Or why the electric model doesn't use 240V for washing heating - it would be some design work and BOM cost, but if they already designed an entire gas version of this with all the added safety requirements that entails, running an external relay for 240V to the heater just screams cost cutting.

But yeah - LG certainly can't match that with their current combo design.
GE could, possibly, but will be 100% blindsided by this.

And at 2k$ or there abouts, it's not even THAT horrendous...
 
Full size combination washer dryers are making a comeback

I have Long predicted that a full-size combination. Washer dryer will become a significant player in the home laundry field, now we have four good contenders GE, Samsung LG heat pump combos and now vented Samsung 240 V electric combo.

From my reading, I don’t think there’s a gas Samsung yet they mentioned in the installation instructions about gas combos but I don’t think one exists there’s no hook up point for the gas no specification for the amount of gas burned, etc. so I doubt it’s a reality.

Bear in mind the energy guide on these combos is only for the washer. Operation does not take into account drying clothing cost

This is a hot and cold fill machine so there’s no reason for 240 V heater to boost water temperature for the extra hot wash setting 1000-1300 W is more than enough to do that job relatively quickly.

I would like to see whirlpool/Maytag come out with a combo, but unfortunately whirlpool is very conservative about introducing new products that might be troublesome because they try to maintain their top notch status for reliability in the laundry industry. When you’re the leader and laundry sales and production, you can’t afford to have a product that gives a lot of trouble it ruined your reputation for everything.

I would not look for Speed Queen to come out with a combination washer dryer either because this type of product would not be used commercially and all of their laundry appliances now are pretty much commercial machines.

John L
 

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