Samsung Eco Bubble...worst idea yet?

[hoover1100]

Most of us know that excess foam hinders washing action, surely this is just encouraging poor laundry habits?

discuss...

Matt

 

[aquacycle]

urgh. it just gets worse and worse, doesn't it? *bangs head on kitchen wall and smiles lovingly at his Miele*

 

[amyswasher]

Looks like a headache to me. It doesn't make sense to make foam in a FL. The demo another YT channel had, it wasn't that foamy.

 

[foraloysius]

Oh lawdy! What a nonsense! This is such a stupid idea that one should consider not buying a Samsung ever. The technicians who devellopped this don't know a thing about washing!

 

[electron1100]

More Shite

yet another useless innovation to get the public to part with their money...........when will it end?

 

[robliverpool]

i can just imagine how long it will take to get the clothes rinsed properly to get rid of all the suds

 

[amyswasher]

Foam can be produced without a pump. It's called too much detergent.

 

[cleanteamofny]

Suds lock before draining, very smart when towels and rugs put into the mix.
How many gallons of water will it take to remove that crud?
Oh yea, the same amount as a top loader....

 

[peterh770]

No, I think this is interesting. Think "shampoo action". No water in the tub, just enough to generate suds. The problem I see is when the clothing is very dirty and as the dirt is suspended by detergent, the bubbles pop. How does the machine know to create more suds, or does it just constantly generate suds? Also, how do you control temperature of suds? If the first rinse is a spray rinse, it might be even more economical for water use. Interesting...

 

[tolivac]

Will someone PLEASE turn off the BUBBLE MACHINE!!Sounds like this should be on the Lawrence Welk show.A washer that DELIBIRATLY makes suds-as others say-makes rinsing more difficult-wonder if this thing gets SUDS LOCK?Bet this will be at Best Buy soon.

 

[whirlcool]

This video got me thinking. Did you notice that the actors in the video were all hispanic?

I think this machine will be marketed to people who still think that more suds equal more cleaning. Think of the oversuding mamacitas you see at the coin op. This is just one group of many that still think you need lots and lots of suds.

 

[nrones]

Try it first..

I really don"t know should I say is it good or bad... It might be good... That washer is designed from a veeeery professional people.. but might not Indesit synthtetic 25 rpm rinses are designed by "professionals" too... so I"d rather not comment any good or bad until I get to see results

 

[chestermikeuk]

"Most of us know that excess foam hinders washing action

But I`d say only when its on a level of water that impedes the washing action !!

My verdict is on hold until we see more, it could be a very unique concept, am assuming no water in the drum just thick cushions of foam bubbles!!!..think dry foam carpet cleaning!!

Also, you can note that if they use conventional washing programmes / rythmns then sudz lock could be an issue..

But you watch certain machines get rid of suds...think Frigidaire, how many soap cakes have we seen whipped away in a fast spin..think Miele & Zug, with long fast interim spins, the Zug just seems to suck them out of the drum!! (not guilty m`lawd, visiting house guest!!)

And if the claims of less power & water usage are correct, then it could be the next new thing!!!....or fad...

 

[mark_wpduet]

Even though we don't think bubbles clean, it is fun seeing them. It is amazing that most people want bubbles and if they don't see any, it's not working correctly.

 

[DysonAnimal]

Mike: Refreshing to see someone taking an open-minded attitude towards new ideas!

 

[arrrooohhh]

Greetings to all.

I don't think this machine is too much to get upset about. Actually I quite like it.

Most on this forum would love the Kelvinator Magic Minute, not because it is useful or makes a significant amount of difference to the end result, but because it was FUN! Of course a modern manufacturer comes out with similar idea and we are horrified. Isn't it good that someone is trying out new idea's even if they are somewhat misguided or gimmicky?

From what I have read about the machine, the foam is injected into the drum for several minutes and then water is introduced, into which the foam dissolves. From what I can see, only on the gentle cycles does the foam work automatically, for other cycles it is a selectable option. This machine is going to be sold in Australia too, (Its been given an energy rating) and, like Europe, most of our detergents are low sudsing (even our top loader detergents dont suds excessively). I have noticed that with my Maytag/Hoover with recirculating jet that some detergents can whip up a fair bit of foam but when the jet cuts out, the foam dies down and I don't have a sudslock. I should imagine this Samsung machine should be the same.

Besides its a stylish looking machine and as a person who is fascinated by machines I am more than happy to give something new a go.

 

[electron1100]

New Ideas

*grins* at the animal from Surrey

 

[DysonAnimal]

Why the grin, Gary?

Perhaps it's not a new idea, but something that's been done before? I won't pretend my knowledge of washers is particularly extensive! But that’s not really what I’m getting at – I make no comment on the Samsung Eco Bubble itself.

My point is that I welcome Mike's attitude of giving the concept a chance to prove itself, rather than writing it off on the basis of a single video - has anyone who's rubbished the idea on this thread actually used the machine in question?

All appliances were new ideas once - and don't think that the manufacturers in the old days weren't also trying to get consumers to part with their money; they didn't market washers out of a passionate belief in the joys of clean textiles! They were out for your buck then as much as they are today.

 

[electron1100]

Dodgy Grins

I was just being freindly Jack, not implying anything untoward regarding your comments *no grin*

 

[DysonAnimal]

I certainly wasn't trying to be unfriendly, Gary. Just took the opportunity to clarify my comment! I thought perhaps you were implying a previous washer had used a similar technology in the past.

 

[hoover1100]

I agree

I am open to new ideas and unusual designs, it's just this one in particular strikes me as being a bit pointless, it may very well work better in practice than it appears on paper though!

I hate the mind set that old=good new=rubbish and that is that. Many aspects of newer machines are much better than those of older machines and vice versa, depends on the indivudial machines really.

I wonder how much these will cost though, I can't imagine them being cheap!

Matt

 

[lavamat_jon]

Cost is...

in the range of £500-548. TBH I actually quite like the design of these Samsung machines, have warmed to them - have quite a classic look about them.

Jon

 

[joe_in_philly]

Consumer Reports wasn't too impressed with the PowerFoam - which I guess is the same thing.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...ppliances/samsung-wf520abp/overview/index.htm

 

[supremewhirlpol]

I'm not so sure how bubbly will improve fabrics. Looks like another useless feature that is designed to reduce the life of the machine. If I wanted extra bubbly, that's what dish washing liquid is for. Given their track record of using crap electronics... The Samsung Eco Bubble coming to a CL near you!!!

 

[amyswasher]

I would love to see that thing make bubbles with the water that I have. I think you are supposed to use He detergent with that also. Bubbles with He soap sounds like defeating the purpose. Dish Soap in this machine would be fun to watch. I wonder if too many suds would void the warranty, it would get them out of many repair jobs.

 

[whirlcool]

I think that most people here didn't like it because it counters everything that we have been told by the washer mfgs.
Like more suds = less washing action and more suds = suds lock resulting in an inefficient spin.
I also saw that CR also liked the GE FL machine. Hmph!