Strange my Kelvinator, Frigidaires, Apex, GEs and Horton's haven't had a recall!
Samsung recalls more than 660,000 washing machines after fire hazard reports
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samsung recall wonder why
I wonder why? Maybe because the washers you've outlined above were better built.
I wonder why? Maybe because the washers you've outlined above were better built.
ultrawash
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It doesn’t surprise me that they would get recalled. This is the second recall on their washing machines if I’m not mistaken.
I’m glad I don’t own one. Cousin had a Samsung dishwasher and it didn’t hold up. The way I look at it, the recalls can happen to any make and model. Had an expensive KA dishwasher that didn’t even get 5 years use, kept burning out boards.
Barry
Barry
It says that the fix is a software update.
It would be interesting to know if the software is at fault (causing hardware to do things it shouldn't), or if the software is being used to work around or compensate for a hardware design issue.
It would be interesting to know if the software is at fault (causing hardware to do things it shouldn't), or if the software is being used to work around or compensate for a hardware design issue.
Samsung!
I saw this on the news tonight and they said it applies to top load washers. I dont trust any of this new stuff!
I saw this on the news tonight and they said it applies to top load washers. I dont trust any of this new stuff!
Samsung to be avoided at all cost. I have spent many months in South Korea working at their facilities and have seen how this company operates from the inside. Totally unsurprising to hear about fires or other accidents due to cost-cutting or overstressing parts to make performance claims.
ryner1988
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This is why...
Software does NOT belong on washers!
Washers are washers. Computers are computers. The two pieces of equipment do their jobs just fine, apart. They do not belong together. The two should not mix.
If the fix is a software update, shouldn't that be a clue that software does not belong on freaking washing machines?
Ugh!
Ryne
Software does NOT belong on washers!
Washers are washers. Computers are computers. The two pieces of equipment do their jobs just fine, apart. They do not belong together. The two should not mix.
If the fix is a software update, shouldn't that be a clue that software does not belong on freaking washing machines?
Ugh!
Ryne
>> If the fix is a software update, shouldn't that be a clue that software does not belong on freaking washing machines?
No, because for all we know the software could be working around hardware limitations, or even issues as a result of unforeseen ways the user is using the machine. Eliminating the software wouldn't eliminate the problem.
No, because for all we know the software could be working around hardware limitations, or even issues as a result of unforeseen ways the user is using the machine. Eliminating the software wouldn't eliminate the problem.
>> Washers are washers. Computers are computers. The two pieces of equipment do their jobs just fine, apart.
You'd be shocked at how much digital logic is in vintage laundry machines. The cam wheels inside mechanical timers are literally firmware, and you can re-program your machine by swapping them. There are multiple levels of conditional logic throughout, with the whole suite of binary inputs (fill sensors, lid/door/OOB, start, centrifugal, temperature, and cycle switches) and outputs (valves, lights, motors, heaters, bells and buzzers).
You'd be shocked at how much digital logic is in vintage laundry machines. The cam wheels inside mechanical timers are literally firmware, and you can re-program your machine by swapping them. There are multiple levels of conditional logic throughout, with the whole suite of binary inputs (fill sensors, lid/door/OOB, start, centrifugal, temperature, and cycle switches) and outputs (valves, lights, motors, heaters, bells and buzzers).
Not a surprise to me, I knew it was (and still is) foolish to put electronics inside a washer where they are exposed to humidity etc. and can fail in a way where they machine won’t function anymore or will fail in such a way where it’ll short circuit and catch fire. Usually you hear about dryers going up in flames do to lint build up inside the machine but now washers? It’s a world of pure ridiculousness with all this “technology” nonsense they put inside everything these days and people fall for it and believe it’s new when in reality it’s just something that’s been rehashed or purposely make it flashy and sleek and con you out of appliances you had for decades and once your old one is gone, you are are at the whim of the greedy appliance tycoons who don’t give a darn about their customers.
bradfordwhite
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Can anyone legit picture 660-<span style="font-size: 24pt;">THOUS</span>AND washing machines?
Anywhere?
But you know they've probably made that many. Not all at once but ....woah.
Anywhere?
But you know they've probably made that many. Not all at once but ....woah.
panasonicvac
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At least that's just for the top loaders and not the front loaders. My uncle has the WF395BTPAWR/A2 front loader and I actually like that washer.
Everyone on the inside knows semiconductor controls are a failed idea, burning up at end of life, its been admitted by the very manufacturing reps sitting on NFPA-70s code making panels.
Hence why appliances are now required to have AFCI and GFCI protection.
Hence why appliances are now required to have AFCI and GFCI protection.
Not too surprising. Our consumer magazine released it's latest test of washing machines. They buy three samples of each model they test and run them through 1.640 cycles. Both Samsung and LG failed, due to bearing failure and cracked concrete weights, respectively.
The era of top loading washers is over
There is not a top loading washer built today that I would buy, you just can’t make one energy efficient and still do a good job. Overall, even the Calypso that I like so much has significant limitations when you wash large items in it.
Even though we sell Speed Queen top loaders, I would not personally want one in my house.
The problem is not computers at all.
We have picked up three Maytag top loaders in the last two months on the scrap pile. Fancy models with glass lids made 2015 or later have not found a thing wrong with any of them, and can only conclude that people just don’t like them, and they buy something else .
Yesterday I was working on a 1985 Maytag dryer for one of our customers she had had the matching washer and the damper failed and there was a small hole in the outer tub so she replaced it with a new Maytag top load or three months ago, but she can’t stand the new washer.
John.
There is not a top loading washer built today that I would buy, you just can’t make one energy efficient and still do a good job. Overall, even the Calypso that I like so much has significant limitations when you wash large items in it.
Even though we sell Speed Queen top loaders, I would not personally want one in my house.
The problem is not computers at all.
We have picked up three Maytag top loaders in the last two months on the scrap pile. Fancy models with glass lids made 2015 or later have not found a thing wrong with any of them, and can only conclude that people just don’t like them, and they buy something else .
Yesterday I was working on a 1985 Maytag dryer for one of our customers she had had the matching washer and the damper failed and there was a small hole in the outer tub so she replaced it with a new Maytag top load or three months ago, but she can’t stand the new washer.
John.
<blockquote>BradfordWhite: Can anyone legit picture 660-THOUSAND washing machines?</blockquote> That's a tiny fraction of the models and machines Samsung, or any major manufacturer, has produced.
All of this is so disappointing...... We all need to preserve the earlier models since that may be the only hope.
