From the Consumerist, an offshoot of Consumer Reports
Samsung Using Dish Satellite TV techs for washer repairs
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They were only offering like $50 to do that recall repair, no technician in their right mind would be willing to do that for such a low amount.
Now that the word is out, and has been for a while now, you'd be very foolish to want to buy one of these hunks of junk. Of course, the concept of value vs cheap or flashy is lost on our current generation of "young achievers" (and I use that term loosely)
So long as it goes beeeeeeep and can be run with your $600 Iphone, geee it's great. Never mind when it flies apart and destroys your laundry room, nah, that is of little importance. All that matters is there's an App to run it and I can go on snapchat or kik for the 2 hours it takes to do a load of clothes!
So long as it goes beeeeeeep and can be run with your $600 Iphone, geee it's great. Never mind when it flies apart and destroys your laundry room, nah, that is of little importance. All that matters is there's an App to run it and I can go on snapchat or kik for the 2 hours it takes to do a load of clothes!
You ever work with millenials John? I do, all day, EVERY day. I work with them internally at my organization and externally across 4300 hardware, rental, home improvement stores across the US, Canada, and Latin America.
I think I have a pretty good handle on what they are. I know for damn sure what they are NOT and what they don't bring to the job other than an entitlement mentality and a fixation with their phones.
I think I have a pretty good handle on what they are. I know for damn sure what they are NOT and what they don't bring to the job other than an entitlement mentality and a fixation with their phones.
vacerator
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The young entry level
millenials do have a thing for their phones, etc. I also noticed before I retired.
Our kids are college graduates, so their outlook, disposition, and ethic are better. Even when our daughter was in college and working in fast food as an assistant manager she did not allow phones while working.
Our son in law designs web sites, and is an owner/partner, so he is not anti capitalism. Our son either who is employed by one of the big 3 as a software engineer. They design software for cars, phones, games, medical devices, etc.
They know if garbage goes in, then garbage comes back out. Same with economics, and also capitalism. It is still dependent on being a system of sharing.
The Lion King was one of the first big computer animated films, and it teaches that ethical lesson. A nephew has recently been hired in Burbank California doing game software design. It's been his dream. His studio apartment rent is $1,500 per month for 400 sq. ft.
Like it or not, young people are the future. We are the dinosaurs. We'll be gone before them. If they mess up, they'll have to fix it.
millenials do have a thing for their phones, etc. I also noticed before I retired.
Our kids are college graduates, so their outlook, disposition, and ethic are better. Even when our daughter was in college and working in fast food as an assistant manager she did not allow phones while working.
Our son in law designs web sites, and is an owner/partner, so he is not anti capitalism. Our son either who is employed by one of the big 3 as a software engineer. They design software for cars, phones, games, medical devices, etc.
They know if garbage goes in, then garbage comes back out. Same with economics, and also capitalism. It is still dependent on being a system of sharing.
The Lion King was one of the first big computer animated films, and it teaches that ethical lesson. A nephew has recently been hired in Burbank California doing game software design. It's been his dream. His studio apartment rent is $1,500 per month for 400 sq. ft.
Like it or not, young people are the future. We are the dinosaurs. We'll be gone before them. If they mess up, they'll have to fix it.
I think we should just beat up all the Millenials with our canes...
No generation is without their worthless individuals. I have a good number of Millenial friends and many are amazing individuals. I know a lot of people my age and older that are pretty unimpressive humans.
Let's leave the broad brushing to painters that are in a hurry...
No generation is without their worthless individuals. I have a good number of Millenial friends and many are amazing individuals. I know a lot of people my age and older that are pretty unimpressive humans.
Let's leave the broad brushing to painters that are in a hurry...
And this, right here, is why I rarely come to this site anymore, and is possibly the reason there are so few good members who still offer logic and intelligence. Now it's become a gathering of old crotchety "Queens" that are grouchy because we can't (nor should we) use 50 gallons a cycle to wash a load of clothes or dishes. You can't scroll your mouse wheel twice before coming across some blanket statement about "millennials" and the younger generation knowing -nothing- about appliances and only caring about their nose in a phone.
On that note, as a 25 year old "millennial", I'll be the first to denounce anything made by Samsung because of their shoddy workmanship and poor designs, and I'll be the first to tell you that myself and many of my fellow "Gen Y Snowflakes" don't really care that our machines beep or boop or connect to our phones, and that we care that they perform properly and we care to take the time to practice good loading and use habits. How many of us grew up with Gen X parents who "just didn't have the time", and as was the case for myself, if I didn't take it upon myself growing up to take over the laundry and dishes, etc., I had to live with clothes that were faded, dyed a weird color, or smelled like mildew because my parents DIDN'T care whether the machine worked properly, or if the clothes were separated properly, water temp/level was correctly selected, and so on. Also, as a 25 year old "millennial", you'll find by taking a stroll through past threads that I've dusted the floor with a particular few here that decided to dismiss my knowledge because of my age, only to discover that you had absolutely NO idea of what you were actually talking about.
Anyway, back to gansky1's original post, I find it absolutely hilarious and fitting that Samsung would use DISH service techs. It plays along with their theme of cutting corners and taking the cheap way out. Let's see how long before this turns into another exploding washer/exploding phone battery debacle because some poor tech had no idea what he was doing because he instead insisted on trying to sell a satellite subscription to meet his quota.
On that note, as a 25 year old "millennial", I'll be the first to denounce anything made by Samsung because of their shoddy workmanship and poor designs, and I'll be the first to tell you that myself and many of my fellow "Gen Y Snowflakes" don't really care that our machines beep or boop or connect to our phones, and that we care that they perform properly and we care to take the time to practice good loading and use habits. How many of us grew up with Gen X parents who "just didn't have the time", and as was the case for myself, if I didn't take it upon myself growing up to take over the laundry and dishes, etc., I had to live with clothes that were faded, dyed a weird color, or smelled like mildew because my parents DIDN'T care whether the machine worked properly, or if the clothes were separated properly, water temp/level was correctly selected, and so on. Also, as a 25 year old "millennial", you'll find by taking a stroll through past threads that I've dusted the floor with a particular few here that decided to dismiss my knowledge because of my age, only to discover that you had absolutely NO idea of what you were actually talking about.
Anyway, back to gansky1's original post, I find it absolutely hilarious and fitting that Samsung would use DISH service techs. It plays along with their theme of cutting corners and taking the cheap way out. Let's see how long before this turns into another exploding washer/exploding phone battery debacle because some poor tech had no idea what he was doing because he instead insisted on trying to sell a satellite subscription to meet his quota.
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Well!!!! Guess he told us boomers!!!
sing along time!
Turn it on...
Turn it on..
Turn on your Samsung...
When all hope is gone...
You know that Samsungs say so much...
Turn it on...
Turn it on..
Turn on your Samsung...
When all hope is gone...
You know that Samsungs say so much...
Yeah, you know, it's verry good to just generaly write of a certain group of people cause of a few trends.
I mean, we see how well that works with gays, jews, blacks.
By the definition, what you do, is just another type of discrimination. I don't think you will find one case where I took such measures to dismiss sonething on this site by such means.
Yeah, Samsung is mediocre at best. HOWEVER this design is verry interesting, and nowing how things work out would be cool.
AFAIK the dispensers for the main machine are hidden by the lid of the second washer, that could inhibit use.
Further, how it copes with OOB in the top washer.
And, how the second dryer works, drytimes, moisture that leakes to the roompossibly.
I mean, we see how well that works with gays, jews, blacks.
By the definition, what you do, is just another type of discrimination. I don't think you will find one case where I took such measures to dismiss sonething on this site by such means.
Yeah, Samsung is mediocre at best. HOWEVER this design is verry interesting, and nowing how things work out would be cool.
AFAIK the dispensers for the main machine are hidden by the lid of the second washer, that could inhibit use.
Further, how it copes with OOB in the top washer.
And, how the second dryer works, drytimes, moisture that leakes to the roompossibly.
Haha, yeah this really is fitting for Samsung.
It's part of the issue too where I've had sales reps at Best Buy and Home Depot tell me that they actively stock Samsung (and some LG) parts because their service is so horrendous, and they redesign their parts every few years, that if any of their customers need repairs later on, THEY have to provide the parts.
It's a way they can still entice people to buy the cheap (or expensive) flashy trash that gives them yummy margins.
Hahah....and that picture of "a Millennial" is hilarious, Washman.
I do work with Millennials. 3/4 of our engineering dept. are 'them.' Including me.
And we're all individuals who may share aspects of that graphic, or none at all.
I've worked with some GENIUS Gen Y's over the years, and some very dim wastes of space. It's as varied as the population.
It's the same thing with how I blame the Boomers for the absolute $hit national situation we are in. But of course I'm more sensible than that, and I know it's not the fault of an entire generation. Just some of them. Because there's some amazing Boomers out there really trying to make a difference.
So yeah, I love my Starbucks coffee, my iPhone, name brand clothes from the outlet mall (that's called being smart) and yeah Capitalism does suck.
But I'm not a Communist and I don't know any either.
We just know there's a lot of crap broken from previous generations. We've gotten a long hard shaft and many of us have come to terms with not having as much as our parents did. We persevere.
Some handle it better than others. Some are brilliantly industrious about the crap hand they have. Some don't care. Some are very thrifty. Some are socialist. Some are Trumpites!
Some (including me) try to scrimp and save everything we can under mattresses and in 401ks because they saw all the hock their parents put themselves in.
Guess what, they're all individuals.
My grandparents thought their kids' generation were a bunch of losers. Our parents think we're losers for moving back in with them. (Nevermind there were no jobs for several years).
My washer refuses to use 50 gallons of water per cycle. My dishwasher takes two hours. I'll be lucky if they last 5 years.
You know what though? My clothes are always clean. Last longer. Lower my bills....
Many of us have learned that life ain't so bad when you're not so angry all the time, even if life has given many of us an old, wrinkly middle finger with orange hair.
But guess what.
You keep trashing us. Because someday, we'll be changing your diapers.
It's part of the issue too where I've had sales reps at Best Buy and Home Depot tell me that they actively stock Samsung (and some LG) parts because their service is so horrendous, and they redesign their parts every few years, that if any of their customers need repairs later on, THEY have to provide the parts.
It's a way they can still entice people to buy the cheap (or expensive) flashy trash that gives them yummy margins.
Hahah....and that picture of "a Millennial" is hilarious, Washman.
I do work with Millennials. 3/4 of our engineering dept. are 'them.' Including me.
And we're all individuals who may share aspects of that graphic, or none at all.
I've worked with some GENIUS Gen Y's over the years, and some very dim wastes of space. It's as varied as the population.
It's the same thing with how I blame the Boomers for the absolute $hit national situation we are in. But of course I'm more sensible than that, and I know it's not the fault of an entire generation. Just some of them. Because there's some amazing Boomers out there really trying to make a difference.
So yeah, I love my Starbucks coffee, my iPhone, name brand clothes from the outlet mall (that's called being smart) and yeah Capitalism does suck.
But I'm not a Communist and I don't know any either.
We just know there's a lot of crap broken from previous generations. We've gotten a long hard shaft and many of us have come to terms with not having as much as our parents did. We persevere.
Some handle it better than others. Some are brilliantly industrious about the crap hand they have. Some don't care. Some are very thrifty. Some are socialist. Some are Trumpites!
Some (including me) try to scrimp and save everything we can under mattresses and in 401ks because they saw all the hock their parents put themselves in.
Guess what, they're all individuals.
My grandparents thought their kids' generation were a bunch of losers. Our parents think we're losers for moving back in with them. (Nevermind there were no jobs for several years).
My washer refuses to use 50 gallons of water per cycle. My dishwasher takes two hours. I'll be lucky if they last 5 years.
You know what though? My clothes are always clean. Last longer. Lower my bills....
Many of us have learned that life ain't so bad when you're not so angry all the time, even if life has given many of us an old, wrinkly middle finger with orange hair.
But guess what.
You keep trashing us. Because someday, we'll be changing your diapers.
So who else will do it?
iheartmaytag
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Not really my dog fight, but
Sounds like the same old crapola that I heard back in the 60s. Made me think of the movie "Wild in the Streets" Just remember age will catch up to all of us, unless you meet with the alternative. Put into perspective, in 25 years or the lifetime of 10 new washers, you will be my age. Sucks huh?
I remember when my Dad wouldn't buy something new," because they just don't make them like they used to." He died in 1975, and people are still buying new everything. Things that sometimes aren't of the same quality as the previous generation. Things that will be in the landfill, rather than a museum.
So we can be nostalgic for things built with pride and quality, and in your lifetime, you can think back of the washer you had last week.
Not to worry about diapers, given the statistics we boomers could well outlive you adventurous selves.
Sounds like the same old crapola that I heard back in the 60s. Made me think of the movie "Wild in the Streets" Just remember age will catch up to all of us, unless you meet with the alternative. Put into perspective, in 25 years or the lifetime of 10 new washers, you will be my age. Sucks huh?
I remember when my Dad wouldn't buy something new," because they just don't make them like they used to." He died in 1975, and people are still buying new everything. Things that sometimes aren't of the same quality as the previous generation. Things that will be in the landfill, rather than a museum.
So we can be nostalgic for things built with pride and quality, and in your lifetime, you can think back of the washer you had last week.
Not to worry about diapers, given the statistics we boomers could well outlive you adventurous selves.
Verry true. I do indeed live a verry risky lifestyle. Never said I'd live quite long, did I?
Oh, and yeah, in 25 years we are 50. And we had maybe 10 new washers.
And you have used 10 times the overall energy\water we used. So what is the point?
I'd rather die by any kind of drug overdose then to not have clean drinking water.
Oh, yeah, and if you are so advanced in thought, say you know that situation from a time you were born ifyou are about 50 now, thenyou should verry well understand our point of view.
Oh, yeah, and don't you love the appliances of the 60s?
Oh, and yeah, in 25 years we are 50. And we had maybe 10 new washers.
And you have used 10 times the overall energy\water we used. So what is the point?
I'd rather die by any kind of drug overdose then to not have clean drinking water.
Oh, yeah, and if you are so advanced in thought, say you know that situation from a time you were born ifyou are about 50 now, thenyou should verry well understand our point of view.
Oh, yeah, and don't you love the appliances of the 60s?
iheartmaytag
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Actually
I have an HE washer, and HE Dishwasher, and Low flush toilets. I'm doing my part. This is a collector site, you will read about water savers, suds savers, low temp usages all through this site.
This is also an intergenerational site, where we should all be able to learn from one another, not being insulting, condescending, and rude.
Just trying to bring the uppity attitudes back to earth, where the water is.
I might also point out, in the 60s, we invented risky behaviors. Don't even start to claim ownership on those. We also brought about environmental protections, increased safety standards, and yes, planned obsolesce.
I have an HE washer, and HE Dishwasher, and Low flush toilets. I'm doing my part. This is a collector site, you will read about water savers, suds savers, low temp usages all through this site.
This is also an intergenerational site, where we should all be able to learn from one another, not being insulting, condescending, and rude.
Just trying to bring the uppity attitudes back to earth, where the water is.
I might also point out, in the 60s, we invented risky behaviors. Don't even start to claim ownership on those. We also brought about environmental protections, increased safety standards, and yes, planned obsolesce.
vacerator
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johnb300m
gave a good reply. Proof that education opens our minds. Not to quote anyone infamous, but it does indeed take a village. We are all individuals, and diversity in all walks of life contributes to successes, and progress. Yes, progressives are also important.
Maybe a few of them will turn around Samsung's service and reliability/durability deficiency.
henen4 is also correct. If we live long enough, we age into an infantile state, and need diapers again, or someone to clean us up when we mess our pants. For some, the mind goes first. Either we won't remember to go to the bathroom, or even who our kids are, or what we did most of our lives. I even recall one man who was in the home with my mom. He had to mix all liquids with a gelatin so he could swallow. His throat reflex was no longer working. His wife was in excellent shape still with an hourglass figure. We were talking about his condition, and my moms one day, and he said to me, "don't even think about it." Little did he know I never fancied any hour glass figure and he had nothing to worry about.
gave a good reply. Proof that education opens our minds. Not to quote anyone infamous, but it does indeed take a village. We are all individuals, and diversity in all walks of life contributes to successes, and progress. Yes, progressives are also important.
Maybe a few of them will turn around Samsung's service and reliability/durability deficiency.
henen4 is also correct. If we live long enough, we age into an infantile state, and need diapers again, or someone to clean us up when we mess our pants. For some, the mind goes first. Either we won't remember to go to the bathroom, or even who our kids are, or what we did most of our lives. I even recall one man who was in the home with my mom. He had to mix all liquids with a gelatin so he could swallow. His throat reflex was no longer working. His wife was in excellent shape still with an hourglass figure. We were talking about his condition, and my moms one day, and he said to me, "don't even think about it." Little did he know I never fancied any hour glass figure and he had nothing to worry about.
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My my my...things certainly seem stirred up in this thread!
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