SERVIS quartz 6035 drum bearings and parts

[bureaucrazy]

Hello, my washing machine is very noisy on spin. I think I may need to replace the bearings.

Are they a common generic part or do I need to find the specific parts? Where can I get them?

I will also need a drum seal. Can I just get one from another brand and cut it to size?

Where can I get a door seal? The door opening looks small compared to other machines, so a specifc seal will be needed.

I have looked at the main spare parts websites and searching by model number does not find parts specific to this machine. Is there any dealer in refurbished or salvaged parts? I guess drum bearings really need to be new due to wear and tear but circuit boards, door catches and such may be fine if used.

It's a fantastic machine, so I really want to keep it running as long as possible.

Is there any place who deal in or repair older machines who could help me get the right parts?

Many thanks

 

[ozzie908]

Servis Quartz

I have a feeling that the bearing is the same size as used on many Hoover/Hotpoint machines of that era, However I could be wrong.
If your able to get the bearings out along with any seals you may need you can get the bearings from any manufacturer. There are a few around you just need the sizes.
The seals however may be more of an issue as you won't be able to get them unless some kind soul on here may help you by donating/selling some spares they have collected.
I also have an inkling that the Hoover Matchbox range of washer has the same door seal at least its of similar dimensions and I have fitted one to a Servis before now.

Good luck with your quest I am sure you will receive some more encouraging messages soon.

Regards Austin.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Servis Quartz

Afternoon Bureaucracy, welcome to AW, am sure we will be able to get the info for you, as you will know this series are now over 35 years old and the original manufacturer , Servis UK is long gone .Some parts are available on eBay and the likes as well as independent shops that may have old stock, some members may have spares from cannibalised old machines .

Please help us out by showing us a pic of the serial plate and number from inside the door .,this will let us identify what series it is and which parts are needed as they changed with production runs .

Have you had the washer from new, has it had many repairs ? Look forward to hearing from you and the gang at AW helping you out.

Cheers , Mike [this post was last edited: 3/15/2021-12:20]

 

[bureaucrazy]

Thank you for making me welcome here Mike. I prefer not to reveal my name online though, for privacy reasons, so could you please edit your post just to remove my name?

I have attached the picture of the label inside the door if that is what you mean?

I bought it used in 1995 for £50 as my first and only washing machine amd have used it on and off since then. It was kept in storage for some years and when I took it out about 7 years ago there was a fault and I remember calling engineers who said to chuck it out as it was too old (how sad). Undeterred, I was eventually able to get a new motor fitted and it has worked fine until now.

It's a great machine, much better than many new ones. I like the 30min quick wash, the hot fill and the small drum for efficiency. It also fits into smaller spaces.

The design is also visually appealing, so I can see why there are enthusiasts for this applicance. It really is from a time when British manufacturers really tried to make the very best possible products and built them to last.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Servis 6035

Here's a link to a thread previously on here with regards to your Quartz 6035 , a good source of issues although a change of bearings is not documented so good they seem to be ...

Also I've listed the original spares catalogue numbers from Qualtex which tend to crossover with regards to searching across other spares suppliers if they have any left. The bearings can be cross referenced with current bearing manufactures when identified as fitted , also codes for the front tub seal and door gasket .

The door seal is DBT50
Ball Race Bearing kit is BKT 46
Front tub seal GSK52

Hope this helps , they are great washers and seem to last longingly with a little TLC when required.

Cheers Mike

Servis Quartz Club

Well I have finally joined the Servis Quartz club with my Quartz Plus 6035 which I picked up last week. Had a right rigmarole getting it as it was near Manchester so I arranged for a courier to collect and deliver which turned into a right farce (don't use Parcel Monkey) so ended up doing a...

www.automaticwasher.org

 

[bureaucrazy]

Thanks so much for the part numbers (and the edit). I have found a stockist of the door seal so far. Could the drum seal be substituted with something similar if I bring the old one to the local spares shop - or even use silicone sealant?

The bearing kit is elusive. I have only found it on one website - out of stock:
https://www.yourspares.co.uk/parts/...t-9545-washing-machine-bearing-kit-BKT46.aspx

There are 6 pieces but pictures of bearing kits for other machines only seem to have 3 pieces.

In the photo the middle piece and the one at top left look unusual (what are they?) but the other 4 look as though they would be easy to source as standard parts once removed and identified.

I guess I won't know what the damage is until the machine is dismantled but is it possible that perhaps that the unusual parts might still be servicable and only the standard parts need changing or is it likely that all of it them be worn out?

 

[bureaucrazy]

I think I may have found the unusual parts. the top left part might be upside down?
Do you think this will work?

Hoover Bearing Kit - 7056

Hoover 1100 Washing Machine Bearing Seal Kit Pre Logic Series

Homespare:
HOOVER
A3060, A3110, A3140, A3146, A3156, A3172, A3186, A3188, A3190, A3260, A3292, A3294, A3350, A3356, A3386, A3388, A3392, A3394, A3470, A3472, A3474:

Pack Qty 1

Product Code: 7056

 

[chestermikeuk]

Servis 6035

Is it an original Spin Care drum ( no holes) or later Chevron drum ( patterned hold chevron shape)because some later drums have taper bearings , they tended to be on later higher spin speed models , just in case its had a drum change etc ..

The bearing kit shows on the top the rubber spring seals , then the bearings , middle is the crush washer and spacer , your right the SKF bearings.

As you can imagine original parts are like hen's teeth , the drum seals being the issue , I've checked with Steve who is in the other thread as he's the only person I know who has changed bearings on this series , all mine have held up , my mum had here's washing for family of six and new baby grandchild for 18yrs and no bearing changes ...

Cheers, Mike

 

[chestermikeuk]

Servis 6035

Hold fire at the moment we are just checking if yours are taper bearings rather than ball race bearings , Just been speaking to Steve who is checking , also that kit may contain a seal that is workable so it may be worth getting it for the seals alone which are the most difficult part to source ..

Cheers, Mike

 

[bureaucrazy]

The drum is likely original. I bought the machine second hand in 1995 and it has so far only needed a new motor due to tachometer failure.

 

[sesteve]

Here are some pictures I took of the bearings on the model before yours - the grey fascia 6030 with a spincare drum . This machine had a leaking seal but when I stripped it down the bearings were fine - just needed greasing and a new water seal fitted. These bearings are built to last so you might find greasing sorts it out. I think the bearing kit I show there is for the earlier quartz models but the seal was the same. Have you taken the belt off to check to see if it’s not the motor bearing as these can be quite loud when they wear?

I was able to reuse the tub seal and didn’t need to silicon it as I couldn’t find a new one.
I took more photos than this as I actually removed the cabinet off the chassis but I can’t seen to find them. If I do I’ll pop them up as having the cabinet off made things so much easier.

There was a new door seal on eBay a few weeks back as I flagged to another member who was on the lookout for one so they do pop up from time to time.

Good luck.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Servis 6035 Drum

The drum in your 6035 throws up a dilemma as it must be a changeover model from the smoothe spin care drum, BUT I thought the new drum was the Chevron style, holes in the shape of a chevron arrow etc, yours is showing holes with no pattern.

Which makes it either a new original or it has been changed at some point, very interesting !!

Cheers Steve for posting the bearing pics, I wonder did many other manufacturers use the taper bearings do we know ?

 

[bureaucrazy]

I called rthe place with the Hoover parts and they said they can't be sure if it is available as it might be at a 'feeder' centre. (some sort of supplier I think). They won't be able to check until the reopening of shops etc.

The machine was pretty new when I got it. The couple sold it to me as they bought a bigger one. I doubt the drum was changed before I got it so it might be a newer edition as you suggest.

When I turn the drum by hand, it feels a bit 'rumbly' hence I suspect the bearings. I am not an engineer though so I can't be sure. When spinning it makes a similar noise to normal, only far louder.

I need to clear some space to pull it out and then I will take some photos of the insides and post them here.

 

[bureaucrazy]

Thanks for the tips and the part numbers have been very useful in trying to track down the parts.

I removed the back. The drum is plastic and looks the same as on the other thread.
There is a rusty stain near the centre coming from a small hole.

Does this stain confirm the drum bearings are gone?

The belt seems firm and the motor is almost new so I think the noise is coming from the drum bearings.

I have never tried this kind of repair before so i might need a bit of advice along the way.

I hopefully will be able to get the BKT46 kit but will need to wait til next week to be sure. The tub seal is nowhere to be found but I have tracked down a door seal (I hope). Quite often websites show a part as in stock only to find they have not updated the page since selling out.

As this is a major repair job, I want the machine to last as long as possible and don't want to find something else breaks and I can't get hold of the part in future.

Are there any other parts I ought to get or replace now while I can still obtain them?

Once it has a new motor and new bearings, what else is likely to wear out? e.g.

heating element?, suspension?, door catch, thermostat?

I think the pump, the pressure switch, inlet valves and so on do not need to be exact matches for original parts as long as any replacement does the same job.

There is corrosion on most parts and the rubber hoses feel a little dry but they are not quite perished and are still usable if I am careful not to damage them.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Servis 6035

Great to know you are proceeding with repairs, as this is a 35+ yrs old washer its likely that it will need repairs, for the hoses we use "Son of a Gun" spray to keep them supple or get some of the sticky mastic tape to cover them with , also there are manufacturers of rubber piping for new stuff when needed.

The weeping stained brown water is coming from the bearing seal channell, if the tub seal fails water should bypass the bearings and drain from the channell rather than ingress the bearings , if you take the belt off and spin the drum you will hear the growl and feel the rumble if bearings are going , saying that my drum just went very stiff to turn and seized spectacularly on spin .

Only other items are the heater and thermistor but non of mine have ever blown, so yes its prob best to keep searching and build up a stash of new or from scrapped machines to keep it going .

look forward to hearing how you get on with the repairs !!

 

[bureaucrazy]

I removed the belt and spun the drum by hand. It felt a bit rumbly and the was a slight scraping sound on one part of the turn. It was noisy on spin like in this video: so I hope my diagnosis is right.

After having no luck searching online for the bearing kit, I resorted to phoning random independent shops and managed to find one in stock!

The bearing and seal kit arrived today!
However, the 2 sivler washers shown in Reply 5 above are not in the pack.

also seen here:https://www.yourspares.co.uk/parts/...t-9545-washing-machine-bearing-kit-BKT46.aspx

The pictures show what I got and it says QUALTEX BKT46.
The two seals are packaged on top of one another. The bearings are marked L44649.

Question1: What are the sivler washers for and do I need them?

Question2: Should I remove all the white metal case and then take the inner drum apart with the plastic outer drum remaining still in the machine?

or do I need to disconnect everything from the drum and remove the entire drum before taking it apart?

 

[sesteve]

Well done on tracking down the bearing kit. You might find once you strip the.machine down that it is just the seal and the bearings are ok and just need greasing. The replacement ones are a different design and in my opinion not as good as the originals. As Mike said, the water coming out from the hole is where it has got past the seal but not into the bearings so it will be wear on them if they do need replacing. Wait and see when you strip it down. I think the silver washers are to make up for the reduced depth of the replacement bearings but I could be wrong.

I’ve searched everywhere for the photos but must have deleted them but you will need to take off the outer cabinet to get the outer tub cover off and the drum out. It’s quite easy as you don’t need to disconnect everything. You basically remove the soap dispenser and disconnect the facia control board and remove it, undo the door catch screws, remove the door seal from the cabinet, unclip any wires from the cabinet and remove the screws holding the cabinet to the base and the back panels and it should pull off. You’ll be left with the outer tub on its suspension on the plinth a bit like the earlier model in the picture. The front cover unclips. Be careful removing the pulley as they can break - I always use a wooden wedge which I try to hold near to the centre where the spikes are thicker.

Take lots of pictures as you go as a reference but also so we can see here! Good luck!

 

[chestermikeuk]

Servis 6035 Schematics

Here's the schematic diagrams showing exploded parts .The beauty of the Servis UK washing machines is they are built on a solid metal chassis baseplate , so removing the cabinet is easy as Steve says above and much easier to work on bearing changes etc ..

 

[bureaucrazy]

Stuck already

Thank you so much for the schematics. Very very useful.

It looks like my kit also has taper bearings but doesn't have the spacing washers so i'll see if I can reuse the old ones.

However, I am stuck already. I have removed the back panel and the control panel and drawer but cannot remove the metal band surrounding the door seal. There is a clip underneath like a flat staple with prongs that go through holes in the band and fold under itself. I have tried to tease it off (calling it all kinds of names!) but I cannot seem to undo the prongs. I don't want to break it. Is there a tool or technique that helps?