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[jetcone]

My new Induction Range arrived and replaced the 25+ year old failing Jenn Air with its 2 speed burners with: "intent to cook" and "Sahara"settings! Its a beauty, black stainless steel. Wow does the oven work!  I like the large cooking zone for my big pots. The small burner will hold melted chocolate easy. The oven has a ton of nice features, like keep warm, bread proofing, fermenting, yogurt making, and there is a warming drawer at the bottom! Most of all what attracted me were the knob controls for the burners, I hate those little buttons with numbers you count! Give me a dial, and these dials are like gas cooktops, you push in to turn BUT you can turn them in either direction! Bonus they are marked with cooking speeds- like simmer , low medium , high! Who the hell knows what 3, or 6, or 9 means !! I'm set to hunker down with a Quarantini and cook up a storm these next few weeks.

 

 

 

 

[jetcone]

Some of the warnings are hysterical

But I think it has been engineered with someone like you Mike in mind. They give the IC rating  and talk about people with heart implants. 

 

[toploader55]

Nice that they supplied you with three racks for the oven.

Beautiful Range. Can't wait to make some Cabbage or Kraut.

 

[jetcone]

Other timely warnings include

Do Not Keep Pet Birds in the Kitchen!

 

Do not dry newspaper in the oven!

Do not store clothing on top of the range!

 

Do not climb into the oven!

 

I think those are all sensible don't you?

 

It has a very sensitive feedback mechanism and so unfortunately will not accept my vintage waterless cookware which works fine on my Kenmore Induction and my Miele Induction. But I can work around that.

[this post was last edited: 3/16/2020-07:57]

 

[jetcone]

Yes Eddie

We have to Kraut it UP !

 

 

[toploader55]

Really ?

Cookware issues ?

Hmmmmmm..... That's surprising.

 

[combo52]

New induction Samsung Range

Wow Congratulations on your new range, I totally agree that cook-tops should use knobs instead of tedious touch controls.

 

Jeff and I specked a SS induction range for our cousin David & Kim when they redid their house in Chevy Chase two years ago, I am surprised that you did not order the dual oven feature where there is a divider that slides in the oven, I liked that feature almost as much as the blue lights around the burners.

 

We were discussing adding the blue lights to induction CTs 30 years ago, I even suggested that you should be able to switch them from blue to red for users that are more comfortable cooking on electric, red would also be safer around children as red is assoated with heat.

 

Let us know what you cook up, [ remember your diet, LOL ]

 

John L.

 

[chachp]

Oven with divider

 

<span style="font-family: georgia, palatino;">Your new range is beautiful.  Is that a Wear Ever Chicken Fryer on the stove top?  I had one years ago!!  I didn't realize there was an issue with people with pacemakers.  I love the feature with the lights and those big knobs--very manly.  </span>

 

<span style="font-family: georgia, palatino;">I have a Samsung oven with the divider and love it.  I just used it yesterday.  I was using convection in the top and regular heat in the bottom.  Very cool feature.</span>

 

[sfh074]

Who makes this oven??

Surprised to not see a big logo on this. Or am I missing seeing it?

 

[jetcone]

Its made by Samsung

Yeah I was on the fence about the double oven but I can see its use.  But Raph how do you cook a 20 pound turkey? Does the divider come out? 
I have a double oven Thermadore set sitting in the basement that I still intend to use so I didnt make this a priority. Boy that oven heats FAST! 

 

Ralph,  that is not a chicken fryer but it will fry chicken under pressure! That is my 35+ year old Pro Selections Super Cooker ( no longer made by FAGOR ) Love that thing I use it almost every week. 

 

 

 

[vacerator]

Nice one!

We saw it at Best Buy yesterday. All the employees were wearing face masks.
While we still really like our 2007 model year GE Profile dual fuel, I'd consider one. Not sure about hubby, he really likes gas. The only thing I notice is the oven door doesn't have that "heavy" feel like our GE. For some reason I like that it feels substantial.
As far as krauting it up goes, companies print safety warnings these days to cover themselves from stupid law suits. Face it, some are just plain "sue crazy".

 

[chachp]

Divider

 

<span style="font-family: georgia, palatino;">Yes it comes out so you use it as one big oven or two small ones.  It's very flexible.  I use it more as one oven than I do as two but it is nice to have.  Hubby hated the toaster oven on the counter so I use the divider and heat half the oven when I would normally use the toaster oven.  When you slide out the divider the screen changes to show its one oven.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: georgia, palatino;">I had one that looked exactly like that and it was a chicken fryer under pressure.  Made the BEST fried chicken.  I'm not sure whatever happened to it.</span>

 

[sfh074]

Glad to see Samsung ......

making something right.  Stand clear of their refrigerators.

 

I've worked on my huge french door model 3 times now and I think I finally got the defrost issue fixed once and for all.  Had to add an extra defrost heater in the evap core in the main food compartment. Also moved the defrost sensor closer to the main line coming into this evap core. This allows for longer defrost cycles to have a chance to melt the ice build-up.  As for the upper ice maker, no hope for that POS. I love how the engineers allowed only a 1/4" clearance where the ice has to fall thru just past the ice tray area. If there is any frost in this area, the ice gets wedged and can't fall into the ice bin.

 

I did fix this issue eventually by adding a water valve in the water supply line going to the ice maker .... so as to reduce the size of the ice cube and now it is small enough to make it into the ice bin w/o getting stuck on its way down. PFFT  No issues with the lower ice maker thank goodness.

 

[bigalsf]

Wow!!

Nice range! Congratulations! We are planning a kitchen remodel and are considering this range. Is the bottom drawer for warming or just storage?

Ralph, regarding the double oven, when using both does each oven hold it's own temp fairly accurately? Can the divider be left in for self cleaning?

 

[chachp]

Dual Flex Oven

 

<span style="font-family: georgia, palatino;">As far as the temps are concerned, so far so good.  There a limitations to what you can do at the same time.  For example, I can convection in the top and bottom at the same time but I can't do radiant heat in both.  I can do convection at the top only with radiant on the bottom.  The heating element in the lower oven is hidden.  I can only use Steam as a total oven but not the top or bottom.  I have not found a scenario yet where the combinations haven't worked for what I do.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: georgia, palatino;">I don't think you can leave the divider in while self cleaning but mine hasn't been dirty enough to worry about it.  I tend to wipe up spills as they happen and while it's hot.  The only issue I have is the window not getting clean.  I have to try some oven cleaner on that.  In one picture you can see where I was cooking two things at once and the other you can see the window.  I hate that and will try come oven cleaner when I think to buy it.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: georgia, palatino;">If you like to bake you will love this oven.  This is a picture proofing Pandesol.  I use the bread proofing all the time for bread, pizza, etc.</span>

 

[jetcone]

Yes the bottom

drawer is a warming drawer too. Nice feature for warm plates.

 

[maytagbear]

May it

give you many years of good service, Jon! My next kitchen, which may be a while, is going to have induction.

Lawrence/Maytagbear

 

[coldspot66]

WHAT???? No GE???? Kerslap!!!!! Enjoy!!!!!

 

[nmassman44]

Very nice stove you have there, Jon! I tend to shy away from anything Samsung after dealing with a fridge by them that died after 4 short years and the Samsung built Neptunes that I had back in 2005 that bit the dust after 3 years. But that said, I hope that they have finally got their act together and this stove lasts you. It looks pretty rugged and well made. Time will tell. I do like that feature where it lights your pots showing which one is on and the heating intensity.

 

[petek]

Looks great. Strange about how a pan can work fine on one induction cooktop and not another. I had that happen as well with just one med size pot of a set. They all worked on the portable and they all but the medium are working on my new stove. I tried it on the large, both mediums, and smallest burner,, nothing, it just doesn't recognize it for some strange reason.

If you're looking for a two burner griddle that will work on induction I bought this Cuisinart one and I'm a little disappointed with it because it warped a tiny bit so it doesn't sit completely flat now and the heat isn't as even across it towards the edges as I'd hoped and as the ad states. It does work though and it's easy to clean.

https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-MC...words=cuisinart+griddle&qid=1584422214&sr=8-4

 

[jetcone]

Pete

I was looking at this griddle its pure cast iron. Take a gander --

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D6TWJH...colid=GCMPWJH3ZB0Q&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

 

[petek]

Jon. Just read the review on that,, One person says that you can only use the grill side because the griddle side is flat against the glass.. but it won't work with the griddle side up, because not enough contact against the glass.. Suppose you can always try it. I've read about other cast iron ones that won't work because of the design keeping the surface too far off the glass.

 

[combo52]

Cookware For Induction Cooktops

Generally does not need to be all that flat, A lot of my pans are old and warped and they cook just as well, I can actually raise one side of a pan over 1/2" off the cooktop and it still boils just as fast on the raised side that is not touching the glass.

 

The thing you need to be careful about is there is an overheat sensor under the center of the cooking area and if the pan is not in pretty good contact you can overheat the pan more easily if you boil it dry.

 

John 

 

Photo #1, flat on CT, #2 raised 3/8" at 12 o'clock, #3 whole pan on a sheet of 1/4" thick pyroceram glass.

 

[askolover]

Love it!

If I were going with electric I'd take that range too.  I'm also hesitant with SS branded things since the Maytag/Samsung Neptune fiasco but that's certainly a nice range.  My house isn't wired for electric range and there really isn't a spare slot in the fuse box so I'll stick with the Duxtop portable cooktop unless I'm doing a large meal and then I'll use the 5 gas burners.  My dream kitchen will have two stoves...gas on one side and induction on the other.

 

[norgeway]

Im not giving up my

Aluminum cookware , Ill stick to vintage.

 

[tomturbomatic]

Jon, do the surface unit controls have timers in them? My 1800 watt Vollrath unit has the timer so I often bring something up to cooking temperature on the 3000 watt Cook Tek unit and then move it to the lower wattage one, set the energy level and the timer and let it tend itself.  It's only taken 60 something years since Hotpoint offered timed termination of surface cooking for it to reappear. 

 

[combo52]

Timed Surface Burners

Hi Tom, Don't forget that Kelvinator Electric ranges also had timed surface elements, I just worked on a 1971 40"one the other week.

 

Samsung Reliability ?

 

This is a big question, We have found that there is not as much difference in reliability of cooking appliances, I generally tell my customers to uy pretty much any Gas or Electric CT they like as there is not that much difference and most never get repaired anyway.

 

It becomes a little less clear with a range, GEs build quality is still a lot better than any other other domestic range and SS is very poor about suppling parts after a few years so who knows whether this will be a great choice.

 

One thing I will do in life is to buy performance over reliability whether in an automobile or appliances, That is why I will never have a SQ TL washer or a Maytag DC washer in my personal laundry the Mts can live in the museum, after all appliances and cars can be repaired once in a while.

 

John L.

 

[jetcone]

Sometimes you get a real FIND on ebay!

Since my new Range hemorrhaged on most of my vintage cookware that left me with 3 pots. Not enough if you are a serious cook. One of the things jettisoned was my clam steamer after 40 years! On Ole Cape Cod that is a MUST!! 

So off shopping I went , saw nice stuff at IKEA , ungodly nice stuff at All Clad made of pure Unobtanium , Calphalon has nice stuff too.   But noodling ebay I found this baby! I got wind because as you saw above Im still using my 35+ year old Fagor pressure cooker and found out Fagor America and Spain have closed their doors. So their cookers will be on fire sale. Such high quality I never worry about durability, in 35 years I have only replaced a gasket once! And I found out too a little secret, it seems Fagor was not a manufacturer, their cookers seem to turn up in the Magefesa line sold at Macy's and BBB. It seems to me that Fagor was a rebranded Magefesa. So with that in mind I found this cooker/steamer for the ridiculous price of $36! And because so many of  you are terrified of pressure cookers it is brand spanking new. 

 

I'm testing my theory as I just purchased a new gasket for my 35+ cooker from Magefesa, lets see if it fits when it arrives. My bet is it will fit. I will post when I get it. 

 

[jetcone]

Happy Cookers All

My 35+ Fagor super cooker humming along side the new Fagor Steamer. 

 

[jetcone]

Tom

I don't know if this unit has timed burners, I will dig out the manual again and peruse. My Miele did but it was difficult to program I never got it quite right.