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[gelaundry4ever]

Speed Queen Transmissions

Gee, those transmissions hold a lot of oil and can take on huge loads. They have a smooth whirring sound to them when washing.

 

[qsd-dan]

This is how the post 2017 models act. Look at all of the sudsy water before and even after the spray rinse. Also, the poor aim of the fill flume during the spray rinse. The deep rinse was still very sudsy. This would have been a much lesser problem with a high speed spin and spray rinse. Even less so if Speed Queen properly aimed the fill flume for better coverage. Even more so if the spray rinse was 1 minute. All of these combined would eliminate the need of a second deep rinse while saving water, electricity, and time.

 

[william8]

I've never needed a second fill rinse. How much soap are you using?

There are no suds in the rinse cycle, I've checked.

 

[Chetlaham]

The TC5 guesses the amount of water per load, there is no variable user controlled pressure switch :

 

 

 

 

 

Whirlpool and others do this, they sense the load then add water for what the machine believes is correct for the clothes. Cycles like bulky can of course add some extra water to the final equation, and deep fill defaults to a full tub, however there can and are errors. A machine can not determine the right amount of water like a human can. A human can watch the machine fill, and set the pressure switch to the level that just covers the clothes. Overtime a user knows exactly at what point a pressure switch satisfy for a given setting, knowing where to set the dial based on where the clothes top out in the wash basket.  

 

 

Load sensing is not 100% accurate or full proof. In fact it wastes water in Speed Queens case because there is a tendency to over fill to avoid the possibility of clothing damage from under filling.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

sudsing

Exactly. It makes no sense. I use Persil which is low-sudsing, but still I want to be rest assured that all the soap suds are spun out and liquified.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

to chetlaham

I thought the tr series were the only ones to have load sensing.

 

[Chetlaham]

Pre 2018 Models

Dan, Preach! Thank you! The Pre 2018 models spun and rinsed much better. Just because people don't notice it, doesn't mean its not happening. 

 

[Chetlaham]

Jerome, my understanding is the TC5 has load sensing due to the lack of manual pressure switch. Which is really, really dumb. It just leads to more water use. What if I want to do a mini load? How will I be guaranteed a 1/6th of a tub fill?  

 

[pierreandreply4]

Chetlham

you mark a good point there like say you need to wash a shirt you need for the next day or like you said a small load how can the machine detrect itrs a very small load or mini load when you do not need deep fill?

 

[gelaundry4ever]

tc5 load sensing

Gee chetlaham, I didn't know that the tc5 had load sensing.

 

[Chetlaham]

Sadly it does, and electronics. Energy regs have only made things worse over the years.

 

[william8]

The TC5 does not have load sensing. It fills to the same level every time, based on the cycle you choose.

It has a pressure sensing switch.

https://partsdr.com/part/203843-pressure-sensor-switch

https://parts.alliancelaundry.com/i...her-dryer-sensorpressure0-400mm-h20green.html

Just search parts for AWN632SP116TW02 .

 

[Chetlaham]

If your TC5 fills at the same level every time, then that is even worse than having load sensing. 

 

[william8]

worse than having load sensing

How is it worse? I know what the levels are, I listed them before.

Eco cycle = 12.5 gallons per fill or 14.5 gallons with deep fill.
Permanent Press/Heavy Duty = 14.5 gallons per fill or 19 gallons with deepfill.
Delicates/Bulky = 16 gallons per fill or 19 gallons with deep fill.

I wash full loads, or my idea of a full load, and it's the perfect amount to cover the clothes/sheets/towels whatever. When I bought it, I ran an empty load to clean it. I guess it shouldn't have filled at all?

You guys really are creating issues that don't exist.

 

[william8]

Maytag

BTW, even my old Maytag LA211 would fill over half full when set to the lowest point on it's continuously variable water level. Still too much if you just need a couple items washed. So I stuck to full loads.

 

[ea56]

Two Words

Oy Vey!

 

Eddie

 

[Chetlaham]

Right, but what if I wanted to wash a small load? What if I only wanted 5 or 6 gallons in a fill for a few hand towels? Or just a bunch of socks? 12.5 gallons is to much. In fact, as mentioned by Dadoes, the load will clump up and become unbalanced. A proper water level just covers the garments when lossley loaded.

 

 

My preference is a manual variable water level control that goes from 1/6th of a tub to a full tub.

 

 

 

Kenmore 80/90 series had the best IMO.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

washing everything on bulky

I wouldn't wash everything on bulky as the agitation is too gentle. I have sturdy cottons and I want them to move freely even in big loads.

 

[DADoES]

 
There's no information stated anywhere that TC5 has auto-sensing.  The cycle matrix chart states that the various cycles fill to specific level in inches and gallons (presumably measured on an empty tub, not considering what clothing may absorb and displace in tub volume).

TC5003WN (models AWN632SP116CW01, AWN632SP116TW01, ZWN632SP116CW01) absolutely has a pressure switch per the parts diagram document that I have.  It's on the water valve mounting bracket, not in the console.  And of course, there a pressure tube from the tub to the switch.

Pressure Sensor:  Photo 1, Item 12.

Pressure Sensor P/N:  Photo 2, Ref 12.

Pressure Tubing assembly:  Photo 3, Items 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 (includes a shadow illustration of the pressure switch and the mounting bracket location at the rear corner beneath the machine top).

Pressure Tubing assembly P/Ns:  Photo 4, Refs 12, 13, 14, 15, 16.

 

[william8]

washing everything on bulky

The agitation on bulky is very strong, the clothes turn over freely and often. You should actually use the machine before giving us your opinion on how to use it. I use bulky as it uses the proper amount of water, and in theory will cause less wear on the clothes.

What do you do to your clothes that makes them so filthy they need a beating every time they are washed?