Don't get me wrong here. I know there is a pressure transducer in the TC5. I don't dispute that. My gripe is with the inability to select a mini fill. I don't see a fill selector on the control panel or a cycle that gives a 1/6th tub fill.
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to william8
I use the coin-op version of this machine. I don't need to get filthy, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't take cleanliness into consideration. The delicate/bulky cycle on these machines is too gentle as far as agitation is concerned. My clothes are just fine on the normal cycle with heavy soil setting, as it does a true rinse. I don't have any delicate items, so I refuse to use that cycle.
I use the coin-op version of this machine. I don't need to get filthy, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't take cleanliness into consideration. The delicate/bulky cycle on these machines is too gentle as far as agitation is concerned. My clothes are just fine on the normal cycle with heavy soil setting, as it does a true rinse. I don't have any delicate items, so I refuse to use that cycle.
William, I think what Jerome is saying is that in order to get a deep rinse he needs to select Heavy Duty which comes with fast agitation and a long wash time. A deep rinse is Jerome's primary concern/need.
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OK, but he keeps telling everyone how to use the TC5. Which he has never used. It has a deep rinse on every cycle. You can even add it to ECO if you want. But he clearly stated the agitation is too gentle. Again, on a machine he has never used.
And if you need to do a load of socks, you need more socks...
OK, but he keeps telling everyone how to use the TC5. Which he has never used. It has a deep rinse on every cycle. You can even add it to ECO if you want. But he clearly stated the agitation is too gentle. Again, on a machine he has never used.
And if you need to do a load of socks, you need more socks...
Jerome can still suggest improvements to the TC5, like a delayed spray rinse. I for one would like a water level selector.
I'm with you William on a long gentle wash. There are times when I'd like slow Speed Agitation for 10-14 minutes, however my Speed Queen does not offer that. Only gentle action is for 4 minutes on soak and 4 intermittent 30 second strokes on delicate/handwash. The AWN542 lets you select gentle agitation fast spin as the user has a speed control knob, however, with a batch of timer problems popping up around the time I was looking for a Speed Queen I settled on a BOL model. IMO, the AWN542 has way to many timer increments and it made itself known with issues of the start windings not engaging in spin.
I'm with you William on a long gentle wash. There are times when I'd like slow Speed Agitation for 10-14 minutes, however my Speed Queen does not offer that. Only gentle action is for 4 minutes on soak and 4 intermittent 30 second strokes on delicate/handwash. The AWN542 lets you select gentle agitation fast spin as the user has a speed control knob, however, with a batch of timer problems popping up around the time I was looking for a Speed Queen I settled on a BOL model. IMO, the AWN542 has way to many timer increments and it made itself known with issues of the start windings not engaging in spin.
panasonicvac
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So I did noticed those two things on the TC5 unlike the commercial model which is a night and day difference upon further research. I'm not too picky and I agree with Dan that it isn't a problem I should worry about especially with William who says there isn't soap left over.
I do have a comment about the small load selector since I own a Kenmore 90 Series with that option. I honestly don't like washing in small loads, I find that performance is better if you had it in medium or large setting with bigger loads. I agree with William that if you need to do a load of socks, either you need more socks or other clothing in the washer.
So I did noticed those two things on the TC5 unlike the commercial model which is a night and day difference upon further research. I'm not too picky and I agree with Dan that it isn't a problem I should worry about especially with William who says there isn't soap left over.
I do have a comment about the small load selector since I own a Kenmore 90 Series with that option. I honestly don't like washing in small loads, I find that performance is better if you had it in medium or large setting with bigger loads. I agree with William that if you need to do a load of socks, either you need more socks or other clothing in the washer.
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I have a friend from church who has a tc5 and I've helped him wash once. He uses the heavy duty setting, which I would've used any for heavy fabrics for things like denim, terry towels, etc. I like my clothes to move effectively. If I had comforters or sheets to do, then I'd consider using the bulky/sheets setting. I match the fabric content to the cycle accordingly. Call me old-school, but I live by experience.
I have a friend from church who has a tc5 and I've helped him wash once. He uses the heavy duty setting, which I would've used any for heavy fabrics for things like denim, terry towels, etc. I like my clothes to move effectively. If I had comforters or sheets to do, then I'd consider using the bulky/sheets setting. I match the fabric content to the cycle accordingly. Call me old-school, but I live by experience.
does it matter
/does it matter? The wash action is generally the same.
/does it matter? The wash action is generally the same.
To William and all the detractors, have you read Jerome's post #29?
In my experience the number 1 reason for human suffering throughout history and across the globe, by far, is the belief our own sentience, perception, and experience of reality is universal to everyone. Leading people to think the behavior of others is a conscious choice or driven out of Machiavellianism to serve some self fulfilling goal. When such could not be further from truth or reality.
Ableism doesn't fix, change or heal people. Much the opposite. Punishment doesn't change, fix, or heal people. Demands don't change, fix or heal people.
Self centered world views are the root of all evil. This wouldn't be your fault, as every facet of society was mistakenly built upon the idea of "wanna" instead of "can't" hence most people do not know any better.
People do well if they can. People are not able fly not because they don't want to fly. People are not able to fly because they can't.
"can't" instead of "wants" is the discovery, the E=MC2 of tomorrow.
Jerome is trying harder than anyone else on this site, by light years.
Empathy is a wonderful thing for everybody.
In my experience the number 1 reason for human suffering throughout history and across the globe, by far, is the belief our own sentience, perception, and experience of reality is universal to everyone. Leading people to think the behavior of others is a conscious choice or driven out of Machiavellianism to serve some self fulfilling goal. When such could not be further from truth or reality.
Ableism doesn't fix, change or heal people. Much the opposite. Punishment doesn't change, fix, or heal people. Demands don't change, fix or heal people.
Self centered world views are the root of all evil. This wouldn't be your fault, as every facet of society was mistakenly built upon the idea of "wanna" instead of "can't" hence most people do not know any better.
People do well if they can. People are not able fly not because they don't want to fly. People are not able to fly because they can't.
"can't" instead of "wants" is the discovery, the E=MC2 of tomorrow.
Jerome is trying harder than anyone else on this site, by light years.
Empathy is a wonderful thing for everybody.
I have empathy, but I'm baffled as to what that has to do with the subject of wash cycles, agitation, or anything else here.
Or why he just revived another 2 year old thread below this one, to repeat himself again. It gets old.
If I recall, we have actual blind members here, who don't behave this way, and are quite helpful, not just broken records.
Or why he just revived another 2 year old thread below this one, to repeat himself again. It gets old.
If I recall, we have actual blind members here, who don't behave this way, and are quite helpful, not just broken records.
You made the assumption that since Jerome had trouble perceiving the amount of roll over in a TC5, he had never used one.
You can politely ask Jerome not to revive old threads (as others don't do the same), without insinuating that Jerome is being dishonest.
You can politely ask Jerome not to revive old threads (as others don't do the same), without insinuating that Jerome is being dishonest.
dishonest?
Where did I say he was being dishonest? He has never used one on bulky/sheets. He said so.
And after all that he replies "/does it matter? The wash action is generally the same."
Personally, I think using a machine once, on one cycle, is tons of experience. As he claimed that is what he was going by.
/s
Where did I say he was being dishonest? He has never used one on bulky/sheets. He said so.
And after all that he replies "/does it matter? The wash action is generally the same."
Personally, I think using a machine once, on one cycle, is tons of experience. As he claimed that is what he was going by.
/s
See post 146, Jerome said he helped a friend from church do laundry who has a TC5.
Ok, say one use is not enough experience even for a user of average faculties.
TC5, Commercial coin op, commercial card, AWN452, LWNs, TVNs, ect, ect all agitate the same on high and all of them agitate the same on low. Agitation results of say a TVN6000 can be compared to that of a TC5 when speed is accounted for. Since the motor, belt, transmission, tub and agitator are all the same.
Low Speed agitation works for you William, but for Jerome he need high speed for his tough work clothes.
Ok, say one use is not enough experience even for a user of average faculties.
TC5, Commercial coin op, commercial card, AWN452, LWNs, TVNs, ect, ect all agitate the same on high and all of them agitate the same on low. Agitation results of say a TVN6000 can be compared to that of a TC5 when speed is accounted for. Since the motor, belt, transmission, tub and agitator are all the same.
Low Speed agitation works for you William, but for Jerome he need high speed for his tough work clothes.
I give up. He said he never used bulky/sheets, but he has tons of experience with it, and says it won't clean well.
I mean, if I was really that worried about clean clothes, I would never use a public machine. Who knows what's been in there? Disgusting.
You win.
I mean, if I was really that worried about clean clothes, I would never use a public machine. Who knows what's been in there? Disgusting.
You win.
blockeight88
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Two of those videos are mine
Anyway, they just need to bring back the AWNE82SP113TW01 model and call it a day.
Two of those videos are mine
Anyway, they just need to bring back the AWNE82SP113TW01 model and call it a day.
I don't want to win or loose.
I just feel like Jerome gets a lot of negativity for being the outgoing extrovert that he is. Jerome means no harm. Jerome is a good person.
I am elated your TC5 is working for you, thats what I wanted all along.
Regarding everything else we can agree to disagree.
Respectfully, cheers! I wish you all the best!
I just feel like Jerome gets a lot of negativity for being the outgoing extrovert that he is. Jerome means no harm. Jerome is a good person.
I am elated your TC5 is working for you, thats what I wanted all along.
Regarding everything else we can agree to disagree.
Respectfully, cheers! I wish you all the best!
to chetlaham
Thank you for defending me! I personally go by experience. If I had the tc5 myself and wanted to use the bulky/sheets setting, I'd save it for just that, bulky items and sheets. I prefer the heavy duty cycle for most everyday items like towels, jeans, etc. If my clothes get damaged I either A. used the wrong setting for fabric. B. agitator design. and C. water level. Even if I have never owned a tc5, that doesn't negate the fact that I've been doing laundry years and years with speed settings and cycles with preprogrammed speeds, and I know what works. I'm fine with most loads with heavy duty which used to be normal. If you want to wash everything on bulky/sheets with gentle agitation for everything, go ahead and knock yourself out. I will wash the way I want.
Thank you for defending me! I personally go by experience. If I had the tc5 myself and wanted to use the bulky/sheets setting, I'd save it for just that, bulky items and sheets. I prefer the heavy duty cycle for most everyday items like towels, jeans, etc. If my clothes get damaged I either A. used the wrong setting for fabric. B. agitator design. and C. water level. Even if I have never owned a tc5, that doesn't negate the fact that I've been doing laundry years and years with speed settings and cycles with preprogrammed speeds, and I know what works. I'm fine with most loads with heavy duty which used to be normal. If you want to wash everything on bulky/sheets with gentle agitation for everything, go ahead and knock yourself out. I will wash the way I want.
Honestly, people are going to use what they want, how they want to and no matter all your postings, the rest of us dont care and and are tired of both your constant postings whether to use bulky or normal wrong spin speeds. Tell the manufacturers, not us over and over
Over 150 posts about what folks like or don’t like about the cycle choices for the new Speed Queen TL’s.
And it seems to me that just about every one of these posters would be perfectly happy if they just had the choices the users once had on the old fashioned analog, electro-mechanical controlled SQ TL’s that were sold prior to this newer generation of SQ’s.
I’ll bet if Alliance reintroduced the old style TL’s that gave the USER the control over choosing the water level, cycle times and cycle speeds that they couldn’t produce them fast enough to meet the demand.
When a buyer spends the premium price that SQ’s cost they shouldn’t have to monkey around with choosing different cycles to get the performance they want from the preselected choices that these specific cycles limit the user to. Give the user the infinite control over the cycle specifics like it used to be.
Folks are smart enough to know how much water they need for a specific load as well as all the other settings like water temp, spin speed, cycle time, ect.
Eddie
And it seems to me that just about every one of these posters would be perfectly happy if they just had the choices the users once had on the old fashioned analog, electro-mechanical controlled SQ TL’s that were sold prior to this newer generation of SQ’s.
I’ll bet if Alliance reintroduced the old style TL’s that gave the USER the control over choosing the water level, cycle times and cycle speeds that they couldn’t produce them fast enough to meet the demand.
When a buyer spends the premium price that SQ’s cost they shouldn’t have to monkey around with choosing different cycles to get the performance they want from the preselected choices that these specific cycles limit the user to. Give the user the infinite control over the cycle specifics like it used to be.
Folks are smart enough to know how much water they need for a specific load as well as all the other settings like water temp, spin speed, cycle time, ect.
Eddie
