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Hi Malcolm. I was just looking at these. Going to put a watch on this on ebay for a day. Does this machine have the hot water boost? Also....does it put a fair amount of water in it, like at least up to the bottome of the door?

THanks so much

Ray
 
Boosted Hot

If this machine had the boosted hot option, I would have bid on it myself.

Funny, the cost difference is only 50 bucks.

Malcolm
 
DURNIT!

DURNIT! Go bloody figure...

I just bought one of these .. Well, the Huebsch ZFN50R .. Set me back $1900. I don't believe they come with a heater option, it wasn't mentioned to me by the salesperson. Either that or they just didn't know. Can they be retrofitted with one?

It makes me wonder how much money I would have saved, having to deal with the extra shipping and the customs charges into Canada.
 
If your water heater is set high enough and you clear the line of cold water before starting the washer, lack of a heater should not be a problem. If you need really hot water, you could always fill the machine with hot water to heat up the tubs and then do a cancel/drain and then start it with the load.
 
Speed Queen Imperials

I have the Speed Queen Imperial set. When I got them 2 years ago, I was concerned that results would suffer because no heating element to boost the hot water temp. After a few months, I realized that my laundry is just as clean as it was with the heater in the LG set I gave away.

Although I still have a mild fascination with the Boosted Hot machine, frankly, I am doing fine without it.

Malcolm
 
Hi Malcolm. Thanks for the information. I am not that concerned with the Hot water Boost since my hot water is pretty hot and I can always adjust heater if I want. I can always use my AEG from 1991 if I want to do a boil wash.

My main concern is water level. How is that in comparison to the LG's?? I there a little more water in the Speed Queens?

Thanks again.

Ray
 
More Water

There is more water than in the LG's for sure. Plus the drum isn't tilted so the pool of water is even front to back.

Someone posted instructions a while back on how to raise the water level. I'll have to see if I can find them. Or maybe the original poster will chime in.

Malcolm
 
While we cannot have them in this country, I think the ZUG at more than 3 times the price of the SQ could be considered a better home machine. Despite their smaller size, I think my Miele washing machines are probably better in most ways than this SQ, but they are not mass market machines either. That does not mean that the SQ is not a solidly built machine surpassing many in that aspect that cost more since it is built based on a design for a commercial machine, I think, and designed with a lot more simplicity & dependability in mind. Since I pick up parts each week, I know the parts distribution network for SQ products is well established in the United States, something I cannot say for some foreign brands.

As for the SQ drum not being large enough, a large size drum is not all that matters in a front loader and can be a distinct disadvantage. Smaller drums make for quicker and more even distribution of the load for spinning. Buying a machine based on its ability to wash large comforters, unless you do that weekly in which case I would consider duvet covers, does not guarantee that average loads will quickly distribute evenly for spins. Unless you are washing for a large family, which many are not, you do not need a huge drum in a front loader. Putting such a large drum in a moderately sized cabinet also makes necessary all of that jiggy sensor business that demands an almost perfectly balanced load before spinning will take place. The other thing about at least some of those machines (like the Duet) with the huge drum is that they have miniscule clearances between the drum and the outer tub coupled with such puny pumps and more stupid sensors that even when a load distributed and started to spin, the circuitry allowed the speed to ramp up too quickly and the amount of water thrown off by the load tripped flood sensors because the pump could not carry away the water. My W1986 Miele, which only cost about $500 more than a TOL Duet has very sophisticated motor speed control. It measures the increase in drum speed against the resistance posed by the water being spun into the outer tub and does not allow the speed to increase until it senses that the excess water has been drained. If suds prevent a spin from taking place, the machine resets to an additional deep rinse which takes care of the problem. I will admit that my standards of front loader performance have been spoiled by the no-nonsense performance of post 1960 Westinghouse front loaders. They had powerful pumps and adequate, recessed sumps that combined to pump out water fast enough to require that the drain hose be secured in the tub or standpipe because the force of the water would send it flying. With one motor running the tub and the pump, there was no stopping to pump out water being spun from the load and no need for it either. Getting through the cycle without delays caused by the machine alternately starting and stoping without making progress is a sign of a well-engineered machine and some of these super large size drum machines are not well-engineered.

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Hi Malcolm. So you can adjust the water level on the front loader? I thought that was just for the top loader, but I may be wrong. If that is so, can you post here or send to my email?

Thanks so much for your help.

Ray

PS: Did you adjust the water level in your machine?
 
When I was looking for a new machine, I looked specifically at the SQ FL machines.  I liked them because you could get front or back controls, so it wouldn't look dorkey next to a standard dryer.   Metal outer tub, SS drum. Overall simplicity of the machine.

 

I disliked them because of their capacity, No hot water boost (without special order in our location) and water usage was set at 13 gallon fill regardless of the load, no smart fill.   So you used 13 gallons of water if you were washing your comforter or a pair of lace undergarments.   Then there was the price.  I got my Maytag 5000 Professional Series Washer/Dryer and pedistals for what the SQ washer alone would have cost.

 

 

 
 
Water Usage

The water level is fixed in most machines. It fills to a preset level and only adds more for absorption. 13 gal is the minimum based on no absorption.

The SQ machines aren't for everyone. Bling is minimal to nonexistant. I liked the SQ machine because it is so simple and the integrated paddles in the drum are deep and really agitate the water. Plus, they are built to be serviced and not discarded.

To each his own though.

Malcolm
 
Bidding

I see someone has placed a bid on the machine above. Doesn't appear that there is a reserve on this auction.

Malcolm
 

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