mrb627
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I was surprised to find this video this morning. A good explanation of machine operation.
Malcolm
Malcolm
Speed Queen TL HE washer EXPLAINED
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The timer is a dealbreaker for us. Because of power failures during winter (last year we had 12 of them) we steer clear of electronic controls on major appliances whenever possible. Not to mention repair costs which are usually substantially higher for electronic controls.
I hope Alliance will continue making at least a few models with mechanical timers. There will always be a demand for them.
I hope Alliance will continue making at least a few models with mechanical timers. There will always be a demand for them.
It appears the HE cycle is about electricity savings. Perhaps the least of our worries here (US) with the cost of heating water and the water/sewer bills of today.
mrb627
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Interesting Observation
This machine appears to have the top of the smaller capacity unit offered in the States. Wonder why?
Also, the REGULAR cycle is called NORMAL on this model.
Anyone else notice other differences?
Malcolm
This machine appears to have the top of the smaller capacity unit offered in the States. Wonder why?
Also, the REGULAR cycle is called NORMAL on this model.
Anyone else notice other differences?
Malcolm
mielerod69
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Australian version
Hi Malcolm,
this is the model we sell in our store. It's an AUS version to comply with energy and water ratings.
Hi Malcolm,
this is the model we sell in our store. It's an AUS version to comply with energy and water ratings.
yeah....that lid size is from the Raytheon type machines.....
I expected the HE cycle to also offer the saturated sprays during the spin without a deep fill rinse....
but the rest seems OK for the most part....somewhat along the lines of a one-speed machine on Gentle, intermittent agitate and soak....
at least you get a choice to use at your discretion....Regular or HE
I expected the HE cycle to also offer the saturated sprays during the spin without a deep fill rinse....
but the rest seems OK for the most part....somewhat along the lines of a one-speed machine on Gentle, intermittent agitate and soak....
at least you get a choice to use at your discretion....Regular or HE
whirlcool
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Ah, so this machine has a motherboard somewhere. I wonder how long the electronics will last. Only time will tell. I sure hate to see SQ move away from mechanical controls. That was one of the features that kept it "old school".
Does the "normal" position fill the tub up all the way?
Does the "normal" position fill the tub up all the way?
mrb627
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Speed Queen
has been using electronic controls in their commercial machines for many many years. I expect they have all the bugs worked out long ago...
Malcolm
has been using electronic controls in their commercial machines for many many years. I expect they have all the bugs worked out long ago...
Malcolm
Like I said in the other SQ thread that is running presently, I no longer consider these machines to be a viable option in laundering one's clothes, unless you *just* need reliability and live "out in the sticks."*** The only other person they are good for is the "real man" who doesn't understand an automatic washer, selects "Cold Wash, HE, Normal" for ALL cycles and uses 1 scoop of XXX Super-Value Detergent in there...
There are so many other options out there that offer lots more (including build quality) for the same or even less than the SQ machines. And they aren't assembled in PRC/Thailand/Korea/Insert miscellaneous Asian country with large scale manufacturing operations here either.
They also offer increased efficiency and perhaps better quality in the long run. Remember what John (Combo52) {and others} have been saying about the Belts and Tub Seal on these machines... They are expensive/difficult to replace and are the weak-link on these machines and will fail before other parts of the machine (notably the transmission).
Would rather than FL offering, but would take any other machine with options for Extra Rinse/More Water and any temperature from Tap-Cold to Boiling on ANY day of the week over their current offerings.
I want my laundry CLEANED in a way that isn't hurting my back pocket significantly.
*** Of course, if you live in the bush you'll need some knowledge and understanding of how to use these machines in "Suds-Saving" mode - because of the scarcity of water in our country.
There are so many other options out there that offer lots more (including build quality) for the same or even less than the SQ machines. And they aren't assembled in PRC/Thailand/Korea/Insert miscellaneous Asian country with large scale manufacturing operations here either.
They also offer increased efficiency and perhaps better quality in the long run. Remember what John (Combo52) {and others} have been saying about the Belts and Tub Seal on these machines... They are expensive/difficult to replace and are the weak-link on these machines and will fail before other parts of the machine (notably the transmission).
Would rather than FL offering, but would take any other machine with options for Extra Rinse/More Water and any temperature from Tap-Cold to Boiling on ANY day of the week over their current offerings.
I want my laundry CLEANED in a way that isn't hurting my back pocket significantly.
*** Of course, if you live in the bush you'll need some knowledge and understanding of how to use these machines in "Suds-Saving" mode - because of the scarcity of water in our country.
Well I guess I am a real man then
Here's what I understand
*it takes water, plenty of it, to properly clean clothes
*HE machines with their plethora of electronic attachments, are notoriously unreliable
*I'm ok with a PC restart when it locks up or MS updates need to be installed. I'm NOT ok having to "reboot" an effing washing machine for god's sake!
*Living alone and working split shifts doing IT support and working part of the weekend, sometimes the WHOLE weekend, I simply don't have the time to waste doing laundry in an eco-sanctioned pile of junk that takes 1-2 hours.
*I don't want to invest in "washing machine cleaner" and again, waste time along with money running a cleaning cycle.
*value for me is how long will the thing last and how much use can I get out of it?
Here's what I understand
*it takes water, plenty of it, to properly clean clothes
*HE machines with their plethora of electronic attachments, are notoriously unreliable
*I'm ok with a PC restart when it locks up or MS updates need to be installed. I'm NOT ok having to "reboot" an effing washing machine for god's sake!
*Living alone and working split shifts doing IT support and working part of the weekend, sometimes the WHOLE weekend, I simply don't have the time to waste doing laundry in an eco-sanctioned pile of junk that takes 1-2 hours.
*I don't want to invest in "washing machine cleaner" and again, waste time along with money running a cleaning cycle.
*value for me is how long will the thing last and how much use can I get out of it?
mattywashboy
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I use one of these model machines daily at my work place. The man explaining was wrong when he says the HE cycle carries on as normal after the wash and soak period. It does NOT do a deep rinse but as Yogitunes expected it does do a series of long spray rinses before carrying on for the final spin. Although the water pressure is strong it still does not adequately rinse large loads at all and because there is no cool down period after the wash, the long process of constant spinning can set creases into some clothes. At work we never use the cycle apart from occasionally using it as a prewash on the kitchen linens or on other heavily soiled items. We always follow up with a regular cycle.
Our machine suffered the fate of other machines where there was a grease/oil residue on the tub when sold to us. We never got this off properly and as such the tub in ours looks awful, not shiny at all. It never leaves a residue on any clothes but would have looked nicer. We have many comments from casual staff that our washer 'needs scrubbing out'.
All in all though this machine really is fantastic when used on the regular setting, its a thorough and quick cycle but the workload it receives is no trouble at all for it. And believe me it has to deal with some hard core soiling (I work in a care home for the disabled). I can't see it dying anytime soon
Our machine suffered the fate of other machines where there was a grease/oil residue on the tub when sold to us. We never got this off properly and as such the tub in ours looks awful, not shiny at all. It never leaves a residue on any clothes but would have looked nicer. We have many comments from casual staff that our washer 'needs scrubbing out'.
All in all though this machine really is fantastic when used on the regular setting, its a thorough and quick cycle but the workload it receives is no trouble at all for it. And believe me it has to deal with some hard core soiling (I work in a care home for the disabled). I can't see it dying anytime soon
mrb627
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Here' the TRUTH
There isn't a PERFECT machine for sale anywhere. ANYWHERE!
Each individual must decide which features best fit his or her needs. I see the same complaints whether it is a dishwasher or washing machine.
1)Quality
2)Capacity
3)Performance
Pick two!
Malcolm
There isn't a PERFECT machine for sale anywhere. ANYWHERE!
Each individual must decide which features best fit his or her needs. I see the same complaints whether it is a dishwasher or washing machine.
1)Quality
2)Capacity
3)Performance
Pick two!
Malcolm
Malcolm,
Well said.
Well said.
mrb627
Well-known member
#4
I should have added a fourth option, efficiency.
Malcolm
I should have added a fourth option, efficiency.
Malcolm
