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I was bored and googled SQ top load washer reviews, and stumbled upon a new reivew of SQ lastest TOL TL, (Consumer Reports.org) which I own and love. It seems like CR did not give it a good review. They also reviewed some other new washers also. Is it me, or is CR biased? I think my SQ is the best built American made TL on the market, with a super strong warranty, longer than any other brand, true commercial construction, and great capacity and washability why would CR give this machine a bad review? This pisses me off because I really believe in this product, and I hope this does not hurt Speed Queen's sales or reputation. I know other club members feel this way also. I would suggest writing to CR as someone already has, to let them know how we feel, and to support this great product.
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I agree, I think these are gerat machines. I subscribe to CR and use them as a guideline, not the Bible.

If you are happy, that is all that matters.

However....most of the NEW toploaders did not get a great rating for washing performance.

The frontloaders did. I am looking at a Spped Queen frontloader now.
 
They (CR) are definitely biased against traditional top load washers. I know front load he washers use less water and energy, but I like to wash with more than a teaspoon full of water and a capfull of detergent. I wonder how much longer Americans will be able to purchase traditional top load washers.
 
The top loaders I think were better years ago. They filled all they way up, they hard long spray rinses, (which is needed to get rid of all the high sudsing detergent). Now, I think for the most part, there are no more spray rinses on the top loaders and they may not fill all they way up

Does your new Speed Queen do any spray rinses?

If I were to get a top loader it would be a Speed Queen.

However, I have to say having many machines througout the years, I think the front loaders do a much better job washing and rinsing.
 
My SQ fills to the top row of holes after I adjusted the screw on the back of the machine. It does have spray rinses as well between the wash and rinse cycle.
 
Top Loaders Need Water

Lots of it to do the job correctly. Sadly with all new energy mandates from the federal and in some cases local governments, top loading washing machines are going the way of the Dodo.

The only way around one can see is to either attempt to tweak water levels, or launder less than recommended amoung of laundry per water ratio so there is enough water to get the job done properly.

Funny how persons say CR is biased against top loaders, time was we would have heard another story from CR about front loaders. In short CR disliked them, as nearly as much as they did Euro dishwashers with manual clean filters, but that bit has changed as well.

IMHO if anyone wants a decent top loading washing machine, they really are much better off with a vintage unit.

Just my two cents.

L.
 
i heard a couple of years ago CR got paid off to recommend asian cars, it seems to me they highly rate whirlpool appliances, i KNOW for a fact the newer wp dishwashers and front loaders by wp are junk, it ALSO pisses me off that CR would do that about the speed queens, what? beacuse they are made in AMERICA and not in a slave shop????? i wonder if speed queen can sue them for giving them a bad reputation.
 
Consumer Reports often lacks in credibility. Just look at the top-rated Whirlpool Calypso, which many people demonize as "Colapsos". I know of one that has appeared several times on Craigslist, which is now marked down to $80.00. I'm waiting to see if he finds a buyer. If not, then I may just swoop in and pick it up for scrap. Or, maybe I'll fix it up if I can find a cheap pump.

The trouble with today's highly regarded electric gadgets, is that they can fail. But many personal computers keep going for years, even decades, so I won't always fault the electrical components. The real problem, however, points to the engineering and mechanics. There are a lot more parts to remove and diagnostics to be made in order to get to a specific cause, and simplicity lacks. Hence, a technician is usually called to fix what ever breaks. These machines often cannot be serviced by the consumer. They are designed to be REPLACED instead!

Back to the Speed Queen. My own observations of Alliance's offerings, is that they are all very solid. Unlike the plastic GEs and fragile Cabrios, or the plastic Boschs, they appear to be designed to last through many years, or even decades of use. Speed Queens will continue to hold their value far longer than any fancy front loader on the market. And, I do feel that Speed Queen makes a much better front loader than other manufacturers because they are not nearly as finicky with detergents. And this is in spite of the lack of an internal water heater. You can run smaller amounts of regular detergent through a Speed Queen front loader, but trying that with a Duet will most likely void the short warranty!

NorfolkSouthern
 
What perturbs me most about Consumer Reports is that we live in a culture where the majority of consumers rely soley on information posted in their mag. I work for Oreck. Oreck makes a vacuum in the US with a ten year warranty. It's called the Platinum. CR rated this vac #10 or #11. I personally know that this vac is not only an excellent vac, it can easily be repaired and will last at least 15-20 years with scheduled tune-ups. CR rates either a Kenmore or Hoover made in China #1, and people flock to stores to purchase these unrepairable units because CR said they are #1 or #2.
I basically take what they say with a grain of salt, but I know alot of the buying public won't even look at an Oreck, or Speed Queen simply because CR rated them as only average, because they don't have the short lived bells and whistles that other units have.
I'm just sayin'.......That's all!
 
I don't recall vintage Speed Queen washers getting rave reviews at CR, either. Nor did they get particularly high scores for reliability.

My Frigidaire top-loader gets scores that make the Speed Queen's look stellar, and I still like my washer. It cleans very well with soft water and a top-notch detergent. It's a big ol' hunk of cheap white plastic compared to a Speed Queen, but it was half the price, too.

If I were to replace my indexing Frigidaire, I'd choose a Speed Queen. I like traditional slow-stroke agitation and a stainless steel tub. I believe most GE top-loaders are now slow-stroke Hydrowave's, as well.
 
im not sure what month the review was, i was at the dentist. and CU had reviewed washers and acknowledged the Maytag Centennial with its semi retro styling. CU stated the only thing retro about the Maytag was its energy consumption. I think launderess is right. To gain favor they must use about 5 gallons of water and no more electric than a night light. alr2903
 
CU is PU

As usual, they're full of it. Apsolutely the Speed Queen top loaders are FAR and AWAY the very best top loaders today. They balance washability with gentleness, something unachievable with DD Whirlpools and have the best warrantys on this planet.They are the closest thing in quality to the old helical drive Maytags that we'll ever see again. They're as gentle as a dove,as strong as an ox,and as reliable as an old steam locomotive.
 
Consumer Reports is no longer very accurate

I subscribe to Consumer Reports.org and find them to do a sloppy job of reviewing products now. Most of the time, they can't even correctly list the features of a machine. And one of the craziest things I've ever seen is they reviewed 2 Maytag model washers-- same washer except one had an extra rinse feature and they had totally different ratings as to washing performance etc. There is no way those two machines cleaned differently. So I don't pay them much attention anymore-- I but what I like and am pleased with. I trust everyones opinion here much more than theirs.
 
Speaking from a technician's point of view, I hope these Alliance Speed Queens hold up better than their predecessors. I'm talking about BEFORE the Amanatags with the plastic outer tub.10 years seems to be how long they lasted before leaking. These washers were prone to chewing up belts and brake pads. And the tub seals would eventually leak and wet damage bearings below. Hope that doesn't happen with these machines. Time will tell. I will admit they are well built machines, but difficult to service.
 

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Come on folks...what the hell do you expect? This is the same magazine that rated the Magic Chef (GE clone) dishwasher with plastic interior and center wash tower with no filtration as highly for overall performance as they did the KitchenAid Superba dishwasher back in the late 1980s. Enough said.....

This is the same magazine that tested top load washers with average 8 pound washloads to develop their performance ratings until some genius figured out that this is probably not the way most folks do laundry, and that if one is buying a large capacity washer, there is probably a reason for that (and its not to wash an 8 pound load of clothes).

And for the record, Whirlpool front loaders and Whirlpool dishwashers are anything but junk, judging by the KitchenAid dishwasher I recently bought at Lowe's Labor Day sale, since it was time for a new toy for the kitchen...and it is one of the best cleaning dishwashers I have used....as good as the LG, and as good as the GE tall tub I had. The KitchenAid has the ProScrub option which, I must say, does exactly what it says it is supposed to do. The only thing the LG beats it at is capacity volume and overall solid "feel". Everything fits in an LG, and its steam option can clean grease off an engine, similar to the KA ProScrub option. But very, very happy with the KitchenAid - quiet, fast, and very nice looking machine.

Will post machine specs in separate thread.
 
Confusing

I feel I would be better served if Consumer Reports rated items by manufacturer and left the brand name off. Then we'd be able to know which machine were advisable under a brand. I would also like it better explained that occluded part numbers and Kenmore specific repair services can be less satisfying.
 
I agree with John,

We've had the SQ TL machines here since the late 80's branded as Kleenmaid, and the maximum age is about 10 years before the lower seal fails and you're up for a full dissasemble and $200AUD in parts.

If you dont notice the water damage when it first starts, it can take out the quick connect connector for the motor (Shorts and Melts) and in some instances the motor as well.

If you ever needed anything more than a belt change here, they're not usually cost effective to repair.

Hopefully the seal has been redesigned and they'll be good for more than 10 years now.

Otherwise the concept is good and they do a great job, its good to see a competitor to the DD design.
 
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