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mrb627

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I understand a few members have purchased new Speed Queen top load washers in which the water level seemed a little low. An adjustment can be made to increase the water level to what a normal user would expect to see.

My question is how low was the lowest water level before the adjustment was made? How much did the lowest water level rise after the adjustment?

Malcolm
 
It was VERY Low! Compared to previous washers...

What I would have considered a "medium" load. It was...I would guess 1/4" below the top fabric softener port (discharge on side of agitator post). After, it's about a 1/4" above the port...a total increase of 3/4" to 1" of water (including the length of the port). It took 2.5 turns of the adj screw on my model to get it up that high, I'm just thankful that I could adjust it; I wouldn't have been very happy otherwise. I purchased the TOL AWN542.
 
Sorry Malcom, just realized you wanted the lowest level. I'll check after the holidays when I return. Can't state the previous, but will check the new.
 
Lowest Water Level

Yes, I was interested in the lowest level. Just wondering how usable it would be at that lowest setting. Is it too low?

Malcolm
 
I have used the "lowest" setting after adjustment and it comes above the agitator fins barely. I'm not certain what it was before that. I would guess 1/2 inch lower. Speed Queen calls this "mini" so I would imagine it's super low. Having said that, Speed Queen specifically states in it's manuals for "hand wash" and "delicate" cycles to use lots of extra water (even a ex large amount for a small load) in order to provide the greatest protection for delicate fabrics.

I've washed some sweaters on hand wash and the delicate cycles and it's very gentle. On slow, the agitator creates almost a hand like back-and-forth motion in the tub (105 degrees each way of course!). Very gentle.

The possibilities are endless it seems...infinite water levels, manual command of spin/agitation speed with the "Fabric" selector and normal cycle selected - or if you choose "Delicate" or "Hand Wash", then the washer determines the speed and also dictates intermittent agitation (Delicate gets normal speed, int and Hand Wash gets slow speed, int). Speed Queen only lists fabrics on the switch, not what they do--so I made a handy chart. I have timer charts from Speed Queen if you need 'em.
 
Another thing to note...

When I was researching the SQ, I was quite concerned about the 3.3 cu ft tub. I have a 2003 Whirlpool elsewhere that I always considered huge at 3.5 cu feet. I was really suprised on how big the SQ tub was! The agitator on the SQ is much more narrow that the WP corkscrew giving a LOT more room, also the agitator in the SQ is near-flush with the tub. Both of these create a very roomy interior, so on even the smallest setting, I would imagine great turnover. Just wanted to add that. I've been in classic TL heaven since the day I bought it. I have nothing left to wash in the condo. :(
 
Pictures?

DanMan, Can you post some pictures of your new machines, I have the same ones. I am curious to see how they look with the inserts you bought as well as the "Q" emblem.
PS I also like the review you posted about our washer on CU.com
Mike
 
Will do as soon as I get back from Holiday. I also have a full cycle video cut to 9 mins awaiting upload to YouTube I made.
 
Had these afterall on the laptop...

Pic 1 of the washer control with Red inserts. The knobs were VERY hard to remove (had to eventually use pliers covered with protective cover) and Speed Queen instructions failed to mention how the timer knob removes (reverse screw off rather than pull). The inserts are paper-thin plastic inserts (knob disassembles) and scratched easily during installation. The reverse side is white. I'm certain a call to SQ will have new ones quickly on the way, but I haven't had a chance to do that yet. A bit pricey for what you get ($11 for 4 inserts). Having said all that, it does jazz up the washer a good bit and matches colors that are in the kitchen. I have two new (still sealed) sets (8) green ones if anyone is interested--I ended up liking red enough to not remove the knobs again. They come in green, red, blue and black from SQ.

DanManTN++12-16-2009-22-58-32.jpg
 
Speed Queen Control Panel "Texture"

Although I had seen a lot of picturs of the SQ control panel, I was suprised to see it does have a quite of bit of detail to it when I finally received it (I purchased from the hardware store over the phone). The lines shown are textured ripples and the SQ word is highly reflective. Link to company that produces the graphics. Hope the info helps someone else who may have had the same questions I came across.

http://www.norcorp.com/Portals/60349/images//speed-queen-appliance-panel-texture.jpg
DanManTN++12-16-2009-23-09-26.jpg
 
The shape of the control panel (not the graphic design or knobs but the entire console) combined with the "extra rinse" switch have a scarey resemblance to my dreaded Raytheon Amana machine. It's comforting to know that these SQ's are not the problem machines the Amanas were, even though the resemblance is still there. From what I've read on this site, the SQ's are the modern day Maytags and if I were in the market for a new TL, that's probably what I'd buy.
 
Very cool

Lots of luck DanMan they lok great. I am glad you said you had to turn your water adjustment screw several times to reach your desired water level. I had to turn mine about the same, and was worried I turned it too much. It has been a few months since I did it and have not had any problems. Thanks for the photos. Happy Holidays
Mike
 
Just for Comparison

Here is a shot of the Raytheon Amana pair from hell with similarly shaped console.

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"Dreaded Amana's"...

Thanks to the info on this board, I called SQ headquarters in Ripon, WI when I was researching and asked them if this was just a rebadged Amana, he assured me it wasn't and that when SQ had returned to the home market, they kept "only the good stuff" and re-engineered the rest. I have had no experience with Amana's, but wanted to check anyway. Time will tell if that is true, but from everything that I have experienced so far, the quality is there. If it only lasts the 3 years that it's under warranty, then I got a better value than my Whirlpool Cabrio of just over 1 year. But I really doubt that will be in the case. As I visit the laundromat 1x a month (Speed Queen laundromat of course) to wash the king comforter, I hear the TLs kick on and they sound exactly like my home model.

A few calls to SQ post-purchase has been nothing less than stellar. The last person I spoke to had been in the laundry business in some form or fashion for over two decades! They know their stuff! He even provided his company e-mail address if I had any further questions (he sent me tech docs on the units). It is refreshing.

It's a bit odd - it's like purchasing a NEW piece of history. I just hope that TLs can hange around a few more years. I still have the '03 Whirlpool TOL TL that is in perfect order - hopefully it will die before SQ quits making TLs. The lady that owns the SQ laundromat said they were heavily pushing FLs (she only has 3 TLs now). The lady at the hardware store said that her SQ salesman was encouraging her to stock more FLs. I'm just not a FL guy yet. I guess I'm young-old school. :)

I would imagine that if TLs continue, then they will go to the version of the commercial TL where it uses less water by partial rinsing and other tricks. One thing mine does is a slow cold/hot fill. Instead of a waterfall, I get trickles. SQ states this is now government mandated flow restriction--I cannot see HOW that would save the planet, but oh well. Who knows...get a TL while you can.
 
Transmission

When I was at my local SQ dealer, they had a cutaway transmission with a handle underneath to turn. It showed the six moving parts in the transmission and they were all metal gears. That was enough to convince me that they were not rebadged Amanas.

Malcolm
 
Just Cannot Decide

I just cannot seem to decide between the TL and the FL model. I have this unusual fascination with the FL w/ heater. But the cost difference may end up being the deciding factor.

Malcolm
 
Good to know you got the info that your machines are not just rebadged Amanas. To their credit, my machines lasted 9 years, but they were frustrating ones. The washer was on its 4th belt when I unloaded it, the belts were not simple to replace, and the dryer sounded like a bucket of bolts from day one. "Commercial Quality" indeed. The repair man advised about the dryer, "it's just tin" and that the solid and quiet performance I was getting from my little HOH dryer before it was a thing of the past.

Those Amanas cost me more than what I bought them for, because out of fear I kept renewing the extended warranty on them. I did get my money's worth out of that, but the point is, I shouldn't have had so many repairs in the first place. I finally gave up on those machines when I saw a great deal on a Duet pair at Lowes, and dumped the Amanas on CL.

As for TL vs. FL, I've reached the conclusion that TL's are much better for doing a load of towels, at least when compared to my pathetic Affinity washer that is far too skimpy with its water levels. I wish my current laundry room would have accommodated my Duets. I had no complaints about those machines.
 
Jetcone

COOL! When will your new machine be delivered? I am still trying to justify the difference between FL and TL.

Malcolm
 
DanMan

Dan,

I have a question about the "Extended Tumble" feature on your dryer.

1) Does the dryer tumble constantly during the Extended Tumble or is it intermittent?

2) Does the end of cycle signal repeat during the extended tumble?

Malcolm
 
Hey I have a question......

Do the new Speed Queen machines, either home or commercial, have a full length first spin cycle? I went to a laundromat that I know has Speed Queens to wash some work clothes and a blanket. Now when I used this place a month ago I didn't really notice but this time I payed attention. And for the first spin cycle, it spun for all of 15 seconds, if that long. Stopped and started to fill for the rinse cycle, and there was still like half of the wash water left in there. Can laundromat owners make adjustments to the machines like wash cycle length, spin cycle length and so on? I won't be going back there which sucks cause I like the Speed Queens, but I had to run them through another cycle without soap to assure they got a proper rinsing. Oh and I forgot to mention, they were top loaders.
 
It continues for I believe 30-40 minutes (continues to tumble without heat). I would believe this to be much easier on the motor - my 03 WP stops and restarts the dryer (lights dim) for 1 min then stops and cycles over. The signal sounds every 10 minutes. Note on the signal, although you can adjust it, it is still quite loud on the min setting for a condo (if you're near it), but it can get really loud for a basement option. The buzzer is interesting--it will buzz for end of cycle about 15 seconds before tumbling stops...reverse of what normal dryers do.

And while we are on the subject of dryers, the SQ has some interesting qualities. The very first thing I noticed was that the door seemed flimsy as I tried to close it gently on the corner...well, I was being too gentle, it's really ment to be closed with a good swing--after that, never had any concerns as I get a good quality THUNK. Just use to my old WP shelf design which is quite heavy. The door reversing is ubber simple. Being use to the WP, sometimes I miss not having the "shelf" door when I'm at the condo, but the swing out on the SQ is nice too as it's easier just to scoot the basket right under the door opening (which is HUGE).

The interior is galvanized steel - no tin here - just like in the laundromat, it gets very hot, and the auto sensing settings (avg about an hour) are all that I use...too lazy to figure out time settings.

I seem to have best luck out of the "delicate" heat setting, which seem to produce the least wrinkles. The "Auto Wrinkle Out" feature is awesome - runs about 30 mins with cool down and is for anyone (like me) who believes the dryer is an iron in disguise. I've been very impressed with how it works--much better than the "Tumble Press" option I have on the WP.

I am attempting to learn how to do better laundry from being educated by the owner manuals. No more towels and sheets...towels stay wet, sheets dry as a desert...at first I thought it was the dryer, then I realized it's me. I dry most everything 1/2 way between "More Dry" and "Less Dry".

The interior light is brighter than most and located above the lint filter. The lint filter is an interesting beast. It has a protective grate on top that comes out, it's secured with a screw and is a small design...which actually forces you to clean it after each load like you should. Sometimes the lint can be tricky to get out--a simple 1" paint/pastry brush is perfect--works like a charm to get thin lint out after a load. After the education, I find the design much better and safer than an "out of sight" version.

The drum rolls the opposite direction of my WP. As with all SQs, most all of the items can be serviced from the front. The dryer is as quiet as my WP TOL, but will get a bit noisey with zippers on the galvanized steel.

Just to revisit Amana's...I just visited my aunt today who has fairly new Amana's (not sure of the date). It had a VERY flimsy design and a bizzare straight-vane agitator that was quiet tall and spikey looking fins on the agitator. THe dryer was very flimsy as well. I'm guessing this was post SQ production and before they got out of the TL business.

I did consider the FLs, but for 3 loads a week max, I'll never justify the purchase. I would suggest anyone go to a laundromat (as I did) and give them a spin--just be sure it's new like the current models as they have changed drastically over the past 10 years. I would love to hear anyone's comments on their FL experience with SQ. Luckily my local laundromat had the new FLs. I called SQ (during the Amana call) and the guy said that any FL will vibrate...and unless it was a concrete floor, he would not recommend the purchase. I have seen people at Lowe's buying FLs for mobile homes. I can't imagine the trouble. SQ suggests a bolt down kit for those types of installations. For the price of the FL, I got both TOL washer and dryer. I paid like 570 for the washer and like 470 for the dryer...very good prices for SQ, most other areas are higher.

Please ask any questions you would like--I'm an open book. Like I've said before, I spent 6 months researching.
 
And yes, laundromat owners are fully in command in how generous or cheap they can be on their machines (to a point) with programming changes--sometimes even by the time of day that you visit! SQ home models allow you to do whatever you wish.
 
Ahhhhh ok. That makes sense. Concidering they charge $1.75 per load which is pretty pricy compared to $1.25 here at the apartment and another laundromat near by with Whirlpool products. I wonder if I should mention it to someone. But until then I'll go to the other laundromat or use the ones here. I'm not gonna pay 50 cents more for clothes to comeout half-assed rinsed. I sometimes like to get out of the house for a while which is why I venture around at laundromats to do my wash.
 
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