I picked this out from the web - so is it possible they are still making then for home laundry? But not at that price.
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supersurgilator
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The only reason this one is so expensive is because its a "commercial" version made for on premise laundries. They also still make the traditional toploader inn this commercial version as well, although it only has one water level.
Speed Queen!
I cant understand why this front loader cant be used for the home? As for the TL I don't understand why they just don't add a water level option??
I cant understand why this front loader cant be used for the home? As for the TL I don't understand why they just don't add a water level option??
stricklybojack
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The front loader can be used for the home. And the Commercial top load (oddly) does have adjustable water level offered on the one speed version. The two speed commercial 432 did have have adjustable water level until last year or so.
The front loader can be used for the home. And the Commercial top load (oddly) does have adjustable water level offered on the one speed version. The two speed commercial 432 did have have adjustable water level until last year or so.
deltablu
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The home machines are back anyway.
We got the email last week that we'll see the home machines back in stock by the end of the month.
We got the email last week that we'll see the home machines back in stock by the end of the month.
freshnclean
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The frontloaders are back?
What do they look like ? And how much does it comply with the bullsh** government water regulation?
What do they look like ? And how much does it comply with the bullsh** government water regulation?
Does anyone have a link to the one speed with the water level?
deltablu
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FF7005WN is the primary washer product code for the newly available washing machine. I haven't seen a picture of it yet.
georgect
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FF7005WN - Appliance Connection
They are advertising the FF7005WN for $1889.00
No image yet.
They are advertising the FF7005WN for $1889.00
No image yet.
deltablu
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Training webinar yesterday
Went through Alliance's training online yesterday over the "new" frontloader. Exact same machine mechanically, including capacity. Two new cycles/options: Allergy rinse and Sanitize with Oxy. Otherwise no changes to the previous machine.
Went through Alliance's training online yesterday over the "new" frontloader. Exact same machine mechanically, including capacity. Two new cycles/options: Allergy rinse and Sanitize with Oxy. Otherwise no changes to the previous machine.
Allergy Rinse
Thank you for the update on the SQ FL'ers
By any chance did they explain how the Allgery Rinse functions? Is it just extra rinses or higher water levels during the rinsing phase? Perhaps both?
Thanks,
Chris
Thank you for the update on the SQ FL'ers
By any chance did they explain how the Allgery Rinse functions? Is it just extra rinses or higher water levels during the rinsing phase? Perhaps both?
Thanks,
Chris
The bizar thing is that if I am not mistaken there is a version of the current FL with heater for other markets.
So just sticking in a 110V one would only require some new bit of software and well the part.
So just sticking in a 110V one would only require some new bit of software and well the part.
freshnclean
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New sq fl with heater
I think someone on here said tha you can custom buy one with heater , just adds some $$. I’m kinda disappointed with these, hardly any changes or new standout features since their discontinued 2017 front loaders . I presuming these new ones must stay in US government regulation with water limits. And they are more expensive .
I think someone on here said tha you can custom buy one with heater , just adds some $$. I’m kinda disappointed with these, hardly any changes or new standout features since their discontinued 2017 front loaders . I presuming these new ones must stay in US government regulation with water limits. And they are more expensive .
All you have to do
to work around the SQ’s lack of a heater is to set it for a pre-wash.
The clothes and tub cool down the pre-wash water quite a bit, but they do retain enough warmth so that the main wash will then stay warm or hot. It works great. And for people who have filthy greasy work clothes it would be perfect. Same function as a warm rinse, and cleaner main wash water.
Personally I have no interest in having a heater in a 110V washer. JMO but it’s a fire hazard. I rented a house with a portable dishwasher some time ago. When I used the sanitize cycle that turned the heater on, the power cord got very hot. Almost burned my hand. Creeped me out. I don’t have any interest in using an appliance that heats the wiring in the wall that much.
Besides, a 110V heater takes forever. The prewash adds very little time and yields a better wash result anyway, because the main wash water is cleaner.
I’m not saying the SQ FL is beyond any criticism; it is not a perfect machine. But the lack of a heater isn’t one of its issues IMO.
A 220V washer with a heater? Bring it on. 110, forget it.
I could be wrong but I seriously doubt that the LG, Samsung and WP/MT FLs really turn the heater on for an ordinary warm wash anyway. I could be wrong.
to work around the SQ’s lack of a heater is to set it for a pre-wash.
The clothes and tub cool down the pre-wash water quite a bit, but they do retain enough warmth so that the main wash will then stay warm or hot. It works great. And for people who have filthy greasy work clothes it would be perfect. Same function as a warm rinse, and cleaner main wash water.
Personally I have no interest in having a heater in a 110V washer. JMO but it’s a fire hazard. I rented a house with a portable dishwasher some time ago. When I used the sanitize cycle that turned the heater on, the power cord got very hot. Almost burned my hand. Creeped me out. I don’t have any interest in using an appliance that heats the wiring in the wall that much.
Besides, a 110V heater takes forever. The prewash adds very little time and yields a better wash result anyway, because the main wash water is cleaner.
I’m not saying the SQ FL is beyond any criticism; it is not a perfect machine. But the lack of a heater isn’t one of its issues IMO.
A 220V washer with a heater? Bring it on. 110, forget it.
I could be wrong but I seriously doubt that the LG, Samsung and WP/MT FLs really turn the heater on for an ordinary warm wash anyway. I could be wrong.
The pre-wash might counter heat-loss, but getting to 140F let alone beyond is nigh impossible without your water heater being set at 160F.
If a cord permanently attached to an appliance is underrated and thus causes a fire, you have an easy lawsuit on hand.
That's why some DWs, washers and especially dryers are delivered without hoses or a cord respectively.
And anyway, saying you'd take a 220V heater over a 110V heater cause the latter one is a fire hazzard is just plain paradoxical. Any fault on a 220V system is just by its nature more dangerous in any way and will often be far more catastrophical.
Really, many appliances over there draw 1300W and even a 1kW heater is much of help...
And a hot cable is FAR from a burning cable.
If a cord permanently attached to an appliance is underrated and thus causes a fire, you have an easy lawsuit on hand.
That's why some DWs, washers and especially dryers are delivered without hoses or a cord respectively.
And anyway, saying you'd take a 220V heater over a 110V heater cause the latter one is a fire hazzard is just plain paradoxical. Any fault on a 220V system is just by its nature more dangerous in any way and will often be far more catastrophical.
Really, many appliances over there draw 1300W and even a 1kW heater is much of help...
And a hot cable is FAR from a burning cable.
dylanmitchell
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SQ FR7 and FF7 vs pre 2017 FL's?
What's the consensus on the new FL FR7/FF7 do they clean well and perform similar to 2017 and prior FL's like an AFNE9BSP113TW01?
SQ TL changes were major for TL's and I'd avoid the new TR3/TR5/TR7. But are the new FL's similar enough to have the same performance as the old style?
What's the consensus on the new FL FR7/FF7 do they clean well and perform similar to 2017 and prior FL's like an AFNE9BSP113TW01?
SQ TL changes were major for TL's and I'd avoid the new TR3/TR5/TR7. But are the new FL's similar enough to have the same performance as the old style?
Getting around not having a heater
Industrial/commercial laundries did or do this by simply having several changes of water after short cycles.
After a cool/cold flush, there is a warm pre-wash, followed by two to three "suds" baths in hot water (140F-160F)lasting 7 to 10 minutes. Then comes a first "hot" rinse (which is usually the chlorine bleach bath if that is being used), followed by two more hot rinses, then one or two warm rinses with final or preceding making up the starch, fabric softener, sanitizer, antichlor or whatever else, then extract.
If relying upon chlorine bleach for sanitizing the wash, then reaching and or maintaining very hot to boiling water temps (160F to 180F or above) isn't strictly necessary. Chlorine bleach will whiten, remove stains and disinfect/sanitize perfectly well in cold, cool, warm or hot water. Things slow down a bit at lower temps, but job is still done in five minutes or less.
If you don't let washer cool down, at some point latent contained heat is enough to keep successive changes of water from cooling down much. Many commercial/industrial washers then (and still now) don't extract between bath changes, so there is considerable carry over of hot water between cycles.
Industrial/commercial laundries did or do this by simply having several changes of water after short cycles.
After a cool/cold flush, there is a warm pre-wash, followed by two to three "suds" baths in hot water (140F-160F)lasting 7 to 10 minutes. Then comes a first "hot" rinse (which is usually the chlorine bleach bath if that is being used), followed by two more hot rinses, then one or two warm rinses with final or preceding making up the starch, fabric softener, sanitizer, antichlor or whatever else, then extract.
If relying upon chlorine bleach for sanitizing the wash, then reaching and or maintaining very hot to boiling water temps (160F to 180F or above) isn't strictly necessary. Chlorine bleach will whiten, remove stains and disinfect/sanitize perfectly well in cold, cool, warm or hot water. Things slow down a bit at lower temps, but job is still done in five minutes or less.
If you don't let washer cool down, at some point latent contained heat is enough to keep successive changes of water from cooling down much. Many commercial/industrial washers then (and still now) don't extract between bath changes, so there is considerable carry over of hot water between cycles.
