Spend eternity on top of Marilyn Monroe
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whirlcool
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And the crypt is currently occupied by somebody laid to rest facing down? Anyone know who this nut case may be? And why is he being removed?
Believe it or not, it's the seller's husband. He requested to be buried face down above Marilyn.
The seller is moving his body one space over, and selling her spot to pay off the mortgage on her Beverly Hills home, for her children (the payoff balance is $1.7 million). She plans on being cremated when she passes away.
She's going to make a very handsome profit.
The seller is moving his body one space over, and selling her spot to pay off the mortgage on her Beverly Hills home, for her children (the payoff balance is $1.7 million). She plans on being cremated when she passes away.
She's going to make a very handsome profit.
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I'll reserve voicing my personal opinion about various members of this family, living or dead, but for the benefit of non-Californians, the whole setup is really unique/strange. To get to this cemetery (which once you get there it's this beautiful little place where all kinds of people you would recognize have found their final resting place), you have to know right where to turn off one of the busiest thoroughfares in LA and it's hiding behind modern glass office towers. I never would have known where it was had a friend not taken me there. He's passed himself now, but we had a few fun Sundays perusing some of the "famous people" cemeteries and had a lot of fun.
Jeff or anyone, did you ever see what it was like before all that was built?
Jeff or anyone, did you ever see what it was like before all that was built?
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twintubdexter
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right you are Scott....
The Westwood Cemetery is not that easy to find and sort of hidden behind a building or two but it's worth the effort, such a peaceful and beautiful place on a sunny California day. The cemetery that's sort of down the street from me where Frank Sinatra (his marker is always covered with pennies as in the song "Pennies From Heaven,) former mayor Sonny Bono and strangely half of Dinah Shore's ashes are all resting is nice but lacks the lush green look due to the climate here.
As a child I was scared to death of cemeteries and closed my eyes whenever my parents drove by one. Today I find them peaceful and calm places. The little community I live in, Serenity Cove has all of it's streets named after a section of Forest Lawn in Los Angeles...Tranquil, Harmony, Placid etc. I'm glad they changed the name of my street from Repose to Serenity while construction was going on.
The Westwood Cemetery is not that easy to find and sort of hidden behind a building or two but it's worth the effort, such a peaceful and beautiful place on a sunny California day. The cemetery that's sort of down the street from me where Frank Sinatra (his marker is always covered with pennies as in the song "Pennies From Heaven,) former mayor Sonny Bono and strangely half of Dinah Shore's ashes are all resting is nice but lacks the lush green look due to the climate here.
As a child I was scared to death of cemeteries and closed my eyes whenever my parents drove by one. Today I find them peaceful and calm places. The little community I live in, Serenity Cove has all of it's streets named after a section of Forest Lawn in Los Angeles...Tranquil, Harmony, Placid etc. I'm glad they changed the name of my street from Repose to Serenity while construction was going on.
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All my major organs will be removed and,if need be,placed in someone else's body.I promised my eye balls to the Eye Bank in Baltimore and everything else to Johns Hopkins. I'll be dead and would rather have my remains used to their fullest abilities.After that,I am a Nomad.No family to be at my funeral and no burrial site to be placed.I'd rather be creamated in an RSE36S in poppy red on the Electriclean cycle then have my ashes placed in an old WESTINGHOUSE Laundromat washer where they would flush through(flush,lift,turn,tumble)that fabulous machine and eventualy wind up in the Chesapeak Bay.No horrific church music at my memorial either. Just some great old disco music and happy visiters to celibrate my leaving this life to go to the next level.
whirlcool
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I've visited Westwood cemetary before several years ago. It really isn't that big of a place, it's surprisingly small. I think the oldest grave I saw there was Marilyn Monroes. It must have been a new cemetery when she was interred there.
You are right, it is hard to find. Was it like that when it was built? It's kind of like a service drive you turn in on.
Well, if the residents want peace...
You are right, it is hard to find. Was it like that when it was built? It's kind of like a service drive you turn in on.
Well, if the residents want peace...
dead gentlemen prefer blondes?
i'm one of the biggest marilyn admirers around and i think the whole concept is utterly ridiculous! who in their right mind would pay that much money to be buried next to anyone! let alone marilyn who has been dead 47 years! i'm sure she is looking down and laughing at the whole thing! and the idea of the guy above her being face down must give her a real hoot! "gee, nothing has changed" she probably thinks! or better yet "what end of this guy is next to my face?"
i read thru the roster of stars buried there now and it's incredible! i had no idea so many celebrities were with her there (like she's really there, tell that to the guy above her). really fascinating. when marilyn was buried there it was not a big deal cemetary at all, i think she was the first or at least one of the first really big stars to rest there. she definately put westwood on the map, so to speak.
her "aunt" ana lower is buried there too and marilyn absolutely adored her! she was very influentual in giving marilyn her ability to dream and achieve that dream! it's nice that she is entombed so close to this woman she loved so much!
peace marilyn, love you and always will! will continue to do all i can to erase the stigma of suicide from your legacy and get the truth out!
pete
i'm one of the biggest marilyn admirers around and i think the whole concept is utterly ridiculous! who in their right mind would pay that much money to be buried next to anyone! let alone marilyn who has been dead 47 years! i'm sure she is looking down and laughing at the whole thing! and the idea of the guy above her being face down must give her a real hoot! "gee, nothing has changed" she probably thinks! or better yet "what end of this guy is next to my face?"
i read thru the roster of stars buried there now and it's incredible! i had no idea so many celebrities were with her there (like she's really there, tell that to the guy above her). really fascinating. when marilyn was buried there it was not a big deal cemetary at all, i think she was the first or at least one of the first really big stars to rest there. she definately put westwood on the map, so to speak.
her "aunt" ana lower is buried there too and marilyn absolutely adored her! she was very influentual in giving marilyn her ability to dream and achieve that dream! it's nice that she is entombed so close to this woman she loved so much!
peace marilyn, love you and always will! will continue to do all i can to erase the stigma of suicide from your legacy and get the truth out!
pete
polkanut
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I see that Farrah Fawcett is buried here too.
i know forest lawn was
always the "big" celebrity cemetary. i mean lucille ball is there, that's an "a " list cemetary if ever there was one! if i ever get to calif i would prob check it out! i agree, i like cemetaries, they are peaceful and i could celebrity hop from grave to grave at the same time. i would also definately go to westwood and put some flowers at marilyn's crypt.
there was talk among her hollywood friends (the sintra clan) of her going to forest lawn but joe dimaggio chose westwood for personal reasons and i would bet marilyn would have objected to forest lawn as well. it wasn't her style, she was too down to earth for forest lawn. her closest friends knew that and thank God Joe did what he did! she is the star of westwood memorial to be sure! like said she put it on the map!
funny, she was dressed in one of her favorite dresses, a lime green pucci dress that she wore on that trip to mexico earlier that spring. the one she joked to reporters about saying "you should see it on a hanger" when they commented on how good it fit her. there are many photos and news clips of her in it and it was stunning on her.
yet she wore the wig from the misfits when she was entombed and she never liked that wig! it's a shame she couldn't have had her natural hair made up but as that post autopsy photo shows it was not a good scene to work with! but it least she had that stunning dress on!
always the "big" celebrity cemetary. i mean lucille ball is there, that's an "a " list cemetary if ever there was one! if i ever get to calif i would prob check it out! i agree, i like cemetaries, they are peaceful and i could celebrity hop from grave to grave at the same time. i would also definately go to westwood and put some flowers at marilyn's crypt.
there was talk among her hollywood friends (the sintra clan) of her going to forest lawn but joe dimaggio chose westwood for personal reasons and i would bet marilyn would have objected to forest lawn as well. it wasn't her style, she was too down to earth for forest lawn. her closest friends knew that and thank God Joe did what he did! she is the star of westwood memorial to be sure! like said she put it on the map!
funny, she was dressed in one of her favorite dresses, a lime green pucci dress that she wore on that trip to mexico earlier that spring. the one she joked to reporters about saying "you should see it on a hanger" when they commented on how good it fit her. there are many photos and news clips of her in it and it was stunning on her.
yet she wore the wig from the misfits when she was entombed and she never liked that wig! it's a shame she couldn't have had her natural hair made up but as that post autopsy photo shows it was not a good scene to work with! but it least she had that stunning dress on!
whirlcool
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Actually Lucille Ball is no longer at Forest Lawn. Her family relocated her to Jamestown, NY (her hometown) back in the late 90's I believe. The Lucy museum is in Jamestown too.
MM didn't have a wake, did she? What was wrong with her hair that couldn't be made to look nice? I always thought she looked so much better with "modern hair" than she did with that 1950's look with all the curls.
MM didn't have a wake, did she? What was wrong with her hair that couldn't be made to look nice? I always thought she looked so much better with "modern hair" than she did with that 1950's look with all the curls.
no there was no wake or memorial
of any "hollywood" kind. joe dimaggio made all of the arrangements for marilyn's funeral with help from marilyn's half sister and her former business manager. most of hollywood including the majority of marilyn's friends and past lovers were excluded including frank sinatra, dean martin and the rest of the sinatra clan that marilyn had been close to in her previous months. frank sinatra especially had been a lover the year before and always did everything to help her when she needed it!
the 24 people he allowed to attend her memorial at westwood cemetary included her psychiatrist and his family (the Greensons), who marilyn had become a regular house guest to, her publicist pat newcomb, her housekeeper mrs. murray, joe dimaggio's son, the strassbergs from new york (marilyn's acting coach and another extended family) and a few other non hollywood friends, her lawyer, other business associates,
her massuer ralph roberts, her wardrobe assistant. lee strassberg gave her eulogy and judy garland's "over the rainbow" was played as it was one of marilyn's favorite songs.
excluded friends were beyond shock that they could not attend her funeral, some more livid than others. some simply sad. frank sinatra, ella fitzgerald and sammy davis jr. tried to bully their way in using their own security to no avail.
it was especially sad that her best friend robert slatzer whom she knew since the late 40's was not allowed to attend. he was one of her biggest allies and spend the rest of his life investigating her murder. he stood outside the gates with walter winchell and remarked that the only people allowed at her funeral were "strangers, strangers who worked for her". no one tried to seriously confront joe dimaggio as he was stedfast in this decision to exclude the hollywood crowd that he felt had only harmed her. he was particulariy vocal about the mandate that "none of those damn kennedys attend". he felt they were involved in her death. if only he knew then what we know now! maybe he did! marilyn had voiced her concerns and fears to more than a few close friends in her final days! she had confided to robert slatzer the week before she died on the beach at malibu, knowing that her phone was bugged and probably her home. his reply to her was "that kind of information can get you killed". the night of her death she talked to sidney guilaroff about her problems with bobby kennedy and he was shocked. she ended the conversation telling him "you know sidney, i know a lot of secrets about the kennedys". "what kind of secrets" he asked. "dangerous one's" was marilyn's reply as she hung up the phone. jose bolanos, a mexican screenwriter who had been a lover earlier that year and escorted her to the golden globe awards remarked after her death that he had been the last person to talk to marilyn the night she died. he said that "marilyn told me something that will one day shock the entire world". now we know that he was most probably referring to marilyn's knowledge of the then top secret "operation mongoose" cia/ mafia plan to assassinate fidel castro. bobby kennedy had made her privy to this information and i believe it is directly related to her murder. it is what robert slatzer was referring to when he told her "that kind of information can get you killed". soviet news agency tass concurred with this theory when after marilyn died it published a news item stating "marilyn was killed by the cia because she planned to expose the plot to assassinate fidel castro". as norman mailer wrote in his 1972 biography "marilyn" "high stakes were riding on her life, even higher stakes on her death". people thought he was crazy at the time, now they don't. and now we know that jose bolanos was indeed the last person to talk to marilyn that night as she put the phone down to answer her front door and never returned, just as he stated!
this is a very emotional subject for me, i could go on, evidence after evidence, fact after fact! but back to her funeral.
the decision was made to use the wig from the misfits by marilyn's makeup artist whitey snyder and his fiance marjorie pletcher who had the heartbreaking task of making her up for her funeral. marilyn had asked whitey to do it for her years ago and he did not let her down.sidney guilaroff had orgionally shown up to do her hair but on seeing marilyn's remains after autopsy fainted on the floor. so whitey and his future wife (who had both just been to marilyn's house the previous wedesday for a cookout to celebrate her new million dollar contract on "somethings got to give" and "what a way to go") decided to use that wig when attempts to style her own post autopsy formaldehyde soaked hair had failed.
anyone who has seen that autopsy photo can see why that wig was used and why sidney guilaroff fainted. it was a shocking picture! marjorie pletcher did manage to joke a bit with her future husband that if marilyn could see herself with no breasts she would die! they cut up a cushion to make marilyn a bosom for her funeral. the green pucci dress selected had a very high neckline.
all in all extermely sad for all of marilyn's close friends to be excluded from her funeral and for whitey and marjorie especially to have to make her up dead when only a week before they had been celebrating with her in life!
and for joe dimaggio it was extremely painful in spite of whether he did the right thing or not with her funeral. he spend the night before her funeral at her coffin side on his knees and ofcourse we all know he sent roses to her crypt 3 times a week for the next 20 years, only stopping due to expense later in his life. robert slatzer took over by sending white roses after dimaggio stopped. both joe dimaggio and robert slatzer carried her torch and memory till their dying day! her friends who are still alive still speak of her with the utmost respect and love! and more often than not with tears.
so these people who want to sell the crypt above her and the people who dream of buying it know nothing of the real marilyn monroe! her life or her death! that's my take on it, some may disagree, it's ok! `
of any "hollywood" kind. joe dimaggio made all of the arrangements for marilyn's funeral with help from marilyn's half sister and her former business manager. most of hollywood including the majority of marilyn's friends and past lovers were excluded including frank sinatra, dean martin and the rest of the sinatra clan that marilyn had been close to in her previous months. frank sinatra especially had been a lover the year before and always did everything to help her when she needed it!
the 24 people he allowed to attend her memorial at westwood cemetary included her psychiatrist and his family (the Greensons), who marilyn had become a regular house guest to, her publicist pat newcomb, her housekeeper mrs. murray, joe dimaggio's son, the strassbergs from new york (marilyn's acting coach and another extended family) and a few other non hollywood friends, her lawyer, other business associates,
her massuer ralph roberts, her wardrobe assistant. lee strassberg gave her eulogy and judy garland's "over the rainbow" was played as it was one of marilyn's favorite songs.
excluded friends were beyond shock that they could not attend her funeral, some more livid than others. some simply sad. frank sinatra, ella fitzgerald and sammy davis jr. tried to bully their way in using their own security to no avail.
it was especially sad that her best friend robert slatzer whom she knew since the late 40's was not allowed to attend. he was one of her biggest allies and spend the rest of his life investigating her murder. he stood outside the gates with walter winchell and remarked that the only people allowed at her funeral were "strangers, strangers who worked for her". no one tried to seriously confront joe dimaggio as he was stedfast in this decision to exclude the hollywood crowd that he felt had only harmed her. he was particulariy vocal about the mandate that "none of those damn kennedys attend". he felt they were involved in her death. if only he knew then what we know now! maybe he did! marilyn had voiced her concerns and fears to more than a few close friends in her final days! she had confided to robert slatzer the week before she died on the beach at malibu, knowing that her phone was bugged and probably her home. his reply to her was "that kind of information can get you killed". the night of her death she talked to sidney guilaroff about her problems with bobby kennedy and he was shocked. she ended the conversation telling him "you know sidney, i know a lot of secrets about the kennedys". "what kind of secrets" he asked. "dangerous one's" was marilyn's reply as she hung up the phone. jose bolanos, a mexican screenwriter who had been a lover earlier that year and escorted her to the golden globe awards remarked after her death that he had been the last person to talk to marilyn the night she died. he said that "marilyn told me something that will one day shock the entire world". now we know that he was most probably referring to marilyn's knowledge of the then top secret "operation mongoose" cia/ mafia plan to assassinate fidel castro. bobby kennedy had made her privy to this information and i believe it is directly related to her murder. it is what robert slatzer was referring to when he told her "that kind of information can get you killed". soviet news agency tass concurred with this theory when after marilyn died it published a news item stating "marilyn was killed by the cia because she planned to expose the plot to assassinate fidel castro". as norman mailer wrote in his 1972 biography "marilyn" "high stakes were riding on her life, even higher stakes on her death". people thought he was crazy at the time, now they don't. and now we know that jose bolanos was indeed the last person to talk to marilyn that night as she put the phone down to answer her front door and never returned, just as he stated!
this is a very emotional subject for me, i could go on, evidence after evidence, fact after fact! but back to her funeral.
the decision was made to use the wig from the misfits by marilyn's makeup artist whitey snyder and his fiance marjorie pletcher who had the heartbreaking task of making her up for her funeral. marilyn had asked whitey to do it for her years ago and he did not let her down.sidney guilaroff had orgionally shown up to do her hair but on seeing marilyn's remains after autopsy fainted on the floor. so whitey and his future wife (who had both just been to marilyn's house the previous wedesday for a cookout to celebrate her new million dollar contract on "somethings got to give" and "what a way to go") decided to use that wig when attempts to style her own post autopsy formaldehyde soaked hair had failed.
anyone who has seen that autopsy photo can see why that wig was used and why sidney guilaroff fainted. it was a shocking picture! marjorie pletcher did manage to joke a bit with her future husband that if marilyn could see herself with no breasts she would die! they cut up a cushion to make marilyn a bosom for her funeral. the green pucci dress selected had a very high neckline.
all in all extermely sad for all of marilyn's close friends to be excluded from her funeral and for whitey and marjorie especially to have to make her up dead when only a week before they had been celebrating with her in life!
and for joe dimaggio it was extremely painful in spite of whether he did the right thing or not with her funeral. he spend the night before her funeral at her coffin side on his knees and ofcourse we all know he sent roses to her crypt 3 times a week for the next 20 years, only stopping due to expense later in his life. robert slatzer took over by sending white roses after dimaggio stopped. both joe dimaggio and robert slatzer carried her torch and memory till their dying day! her friends who are still alive still speak of her with the utmost respect and love! and more often than not with tears.
so these people who want to sell the crypt above her and the people who dream of buying it know nothing of the real marilyn monroe! her life or her death! that's my take on it, some may disagree, it's ok! `
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MM's Hair
Google for the post morteum photographs of Miss. Monroe, her hair is not in the best condition, even allowing for the circumstances.
Would have been very hard in those days to tell when a woman, especially a famous one like MM was wearing her own hair versus a wig and or hair pieces. Both were very common in the 1950's and 1960's also given what Miss. Monroe's hair must have suffered from all that bleaching, toning, hot movie set lights and general abuse over the years, it probably would have needed some "help" to looks it's best.
Am also assuming it was much easier then for a hair stylist to do a wig and have it placed on Miss. Monroe, rather than try to wash, set, and style hair on a body in a prone position.
Took a peek at the "guest list" for the above mentioned cemetary, pretty impressive! See Miss. Taylor has her spot already reserved. Miss. Eve Arden and so many other greats are there as well, including Miss. Peggy Lee. Another full figured blonde haired gal.
On the wild assumption that one could "speak" to Miss. Monroe whilst lying above her, would only want to know who did her in, but being the lady she was in life, she probably shouldn't answer. Didn't know she had so many abortions, with one just a few weeks before her death. Miss. Jane Russell had a horrible thing done as a young girl, thus never could have children.
Google for the post morteum photographs of Miss. Monroe, her hair is not in the best condition, even allowing for the circumstances.
Would have been very hard in those days to tell when a woman, especially a famous one like MM was wearing her own hair versus a wig and or hair pieces. Both were very common in the 1950's and 1960's also given what Miss. Monroe's hair must have suffered from all that bleaching, toning, hot movie set lights and general abuse over the years, it probably would have needed some "help" to looks it's best.
Am also assuming it was much easier then for a hair stylist to do a wig and have it placed on Miss. Monroe, rather than try to wash, set, and style hair on a body in a prone position.
Took a peek at the "guest list" for the above mentioned cemetary, pretty impressive! See Miss. Taylor has her spot already reserved. Miss. Eve Arden and so many other greats are there as well, including Miss. Peggy Lee. Another full figured blonde haired gal.
On the wild assumption that one could "speak" to Miss. Monroe whilst lying above her, would only want to know who did her in, but being the lady she was in life, she probably shouldn't answer. Didn't know she had so many abortions, with one just a few weeks before her death. Miss. Jane Russell had a horrible thing done as a young girl, thus never could have children.
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Amazes me that there are that many people with that much money to throw around. It would be awful if the winner and Marilyn didn't get along.
Amazes me that there are that many people with that much money to throw around. It would be awful if the winner and Marilyn didn't get along.
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WOW.
I've been to that cemetery and it is truly a bizarre location. Looks like the city grew around it. So many recongnisable (sp?)names!
What a concept. But good for the seller to be so practical. Let someone's huge ego make your life debt-free and cash-rich!
Don't know if I agree with excluding people who knew the deceased from a funeral. It's a time for healing and reconciling. Helps the living move on as well via the healing.
My brand of Voo-doo (religion) believes that the spirit of the deceased has the right to stay Earth-bound for forty days. Damn, I'd like to excercise that right and see what they REALLY think as they come to kiss me off to the next plane.
I've been to that cemetery and it is truly a bizarre location. Looks like the city grew around it. So many recongnisable (sp?)names!
What a concept. But good for the seller to be so practical. Let someone's huge ego make your life debt-free and cash-rich!
Don't know if I agree with excluding people who knew the deceased from a funeral. It's a time for healing and reconciling. Helps the living move on as well via the healing.
My brand of Voo-doo (religion) believes that the spirit of the deceased has the right to stay Earth-bound for forty days. Damn, I'd like to excercise that right and see what they REALLY think as they come to kiss me off to the next plane.
