Spokane residents smuggling "good" dishwasher detergents in from out of state

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Among other states that have banned or are banning phosphates in dishwasher detergent are Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Michigan, Vermont, Minnesota, Illinois, Massachusetts and New York. A bill on Capitol Hill would impose a nationwide ban.
 
I have a friend that lives in Spokane, he was telling me about this. Suddenly his vintage KDA wasn't doing a good job. Then he heard about the change in the detergent. Lucky they aren't far from Idaho so he just goes across the state line and buys now. Crazy isn't it.
 
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Along with others cannot be stopped from selling a product if it is legal. Most bans for laundry and soon dishwasher detergents ban the sale of such products that contain "x" amount of phosphates.

What could happen however is a state or states ganging upon suppliers of phosphates if they find it being sold to residents.

Commercial detergent makers such as Ecolab did not distribute nor sell phosphate containing versions of their detergents where it was restricted or banned. Often it would state clearly on the package "Not For Sale In New York" or some other state.

However the commercial detergent market is rather small and distribution can be tightly controlled, (just try purchasing Ecolab products without being approved). Without a national ban residents will simply purchase what they want out of state and bring it back, and or have the same shipped.

Still, it might be worth while to start laying in a supply just in case.

L.
 
Government intrusion in our personal lives.....

"Among other states that have banned or are banning phosphates in dishwasher detergent are Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Michigan, Vermont, Minnesota, Illinois, Massachusetts and New York. A bill on Capitol Hill would impose a nationwide ban".

Take notice that every one of those states mentioned, are "blue" , or Democratic states won by Obama in the Presidential election, with the exception of Vermont and Minnesota, who have GOP governors.
I would also think that with all of the other problems facing our nation, The "Demo" controlled congress would focus on those matters before taking up such an unimportant matter such as banning phosphates.

But never fear, I predict that Demo congress will self destruct, and the GOP will see signifigant gains in both chambers of Congress. I just hope it is enough to send "do nothing" Pelosi, and "Dim wit" Reid packing.

Viva Phosphates!!
 
Thanks for the info, I will need to see check the ingredient list of my dishwasher soap to see if soap in PA still has phosphates, it seems like we have been having lack luster dishwasher performance.
If not it is only a 12 mile drive to West Virginia or about 20 to cross the river to Ohio so it will be easy for me to still have good soap.

Sam
 
Wow, after reading that article makes me realize even mor how crazy and rediculous this going green crap is. I for one DO NOT CARE about conserving or anything of the like, I drive a big gas guzzling luxury land yaht, I do not recycle, I like older less energy efficient appliances, I do as I wish with my water, it is free and comes from a well since we are in a very rural area, and I am Hell bent on using dishwasher detergent with phosphates no matter what the state of PA says, it isn't harming anything, we have a septic tank, so it dosen't matter. I am glad i am so close to the state line andI will be stocking up so I am more prepared if this becomes a nation wide ban.

This whole thing to me is as rediculous as the bans that some states had on oleo(margarine) in the past, A poor waste of time for our politicians which whom we pay their salaries to be doing instead of focusing on important issues.

Sam
 
sudsshane

A bill on Capitol Hill would impose a nationwide ban

I'll take any perceived federal ban on phosphates over the state of the economy and tarnished foreign perception of the US that the f**king Idiot Bush left us with! Let's look at priorities here.

As far as having other things to do, they have to work on something when the f**king idiot Republicans are stalling PROGRESS (don't know for a fact that they are in this case, but their record speaks for themselves)!

Not meant as a flame at all. I'm just sick of hearing criticism of someone who inherited a GREAT BIG MESS from an incompetent monkey (apologies to monkey's everywhere). He's been in office barely more than 2 months. Come on!!!!

Wish Bill would run again!!!!!!!!!

Chuck
 
Maybe these "geniuses" should have found a "green" alternative that would match the cleaning ability of phosphates BEFORE the banning.

I'm surprised California hasn't adopted this law. Usually the morons in charge of this state like to be the first to enact idiotic laws and rules before researching first, thinking long term/short term impact, or even coming up with a realistic approach of solving an issue BEFORE implementing laws/rules/changes.
 
I for one DO NOT CARE about conserving or anything of the li

And as far as "going green" goes, we've recently begun having a separate trash barrel in the garage for "co-mingle" (foil, plastic, glass). Each week, we seem to fill a 13 gallon kitchen trash bag. This is not only stuff that's not going into the landfill (forever) or the incinerator (toxic), but our town doesn't pay to have it picked up and recycled. In my crazy mind, that means it might be helping to keep our taxes down, or at least the cost of our dump stickers from going up!

I really didn't give a damn before. Now that I can equate it to my wallet (self-admittedly, that's sad), it makes a difference.

Chuck
 
Chuck,

I agree completely with what you had to say and i too feel there is a hell of a huge mess to be cleaned up after 8 years of absolute incompetence and it cant be cleaned up overnight, afterall it took 8 years to make the mess.

I am a firm believer in the thought that Stupidity is an incurable and highly contagious disease just take a look around at the people surrounding you in public and you will see what you mean. It is a surprise that there isn't more incompetence after the last 8 years. Maybe that is why banning phosphates is such a priority.there are better petty issues that can be handled while progress is being stalled.

I also wish Bill could run again, it is also nice to see that someone else has the same view on this as I do.

Sam
 
We do not have recycling in our area,it is enough to have all of our garbage picked up each week. and as for paper and cardboard I save it for packing material and for starting fires in the winter, Also in our area most people have burning pits and we burn our burnable garbage.
 
I also wish Bill could run again,

Well, he CAN! Why he doesn't, I don't know. Maybe Hillary didn't give him permission (I'll take Obama, but still wish Hillary had won)?!!

Just heard Fleetwood Mac, "Don't Stop," on the radio today, and the DJ mentioned that it felt like it was 1992 again, when Bill chose that song for his campaign. Made me think about how well we were doing, and how much I never even bothered to think about what the government was doing, when he was in.

Damn.

Chuck
 
Chuck~

I am in full agreement with you regarding Bush.

Trust me, many Moderate, to liberal Republicans I know are ashamed to be associated with him. I never voted for him, therefore I have no guilt. We can blame the far right for his election, since his base delivered heavily both times he ran for President.

Now, regarding the Dem controlled Congress, they have done basically squat since taking control back in 2006. I am sick and tired of being fed a bunch of BS by a party, (Democratic) that pays the gay community a bunch of lip service and NEVER delivers. (They do the same with the black community) and we always fall for it.

Now, they are prosposing to bankrupt this country with massive spending bills which in the end is going to mean higher taxes for us all, including the middle/working class. Look at the hypocrisy of Barney Frank and Chris Dood recently? You really trust the Dem party to turn things around? I think not..Look at where you live? Taxachusetts, some of the highest taxes in the United States!!

Personally, I would love to see the whole lot of the bums thrown out of office, and elect independents who are fiscal conservatives/ moderate social liberals. It never benefits our country as a whole when one party dominates all branches of government as we saw under 8 years of Bush.

Divided government is best to make the SOB's work together!

and Yes, I voted for Bill 2x, and would again.
 
Bill can't be (though I wish....)

President again.

There was a little Constitutional Amendment put in place during the (Harry)Truman years limiting a President to two four-year terms.

I am exceedingly, exceedingly grateful for same, or we'd be even more messed up than we are.

One of the phosphate ban proponents spoke about installing a mechanical water softener. Bad idea, because they are expensive, noisy, and use water and lots of salt, unless a person uses potassium pellets to recharge.

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
I for one DO NOT CARE about conserving or anything of the li

How absurd ...do you know what kind of hell hole this country would be if everybody had an attitude like yours?
 

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