Yes it is apples to apples genius, both 50min cycles both warm water. Funny how you make excuses for the fisher and paykel but bash speed queen. "Oh well it would do better with a longer cycle" ya well the speed queens heavy duty is as long as fisher and paykels normal and they get same results go figure. " oh well the FP would do better on heavy duty" yeah FP heavy duty is well over an hour. Give speed queen over an hour and it would do great. You are clearly biased
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It is not apples to apples
The SQ can't clean any better, it's its most intensive cycle.
The F&P is doing that on its Normal cycle, it still has at least 2 cycles that would clean even better.
The SQ can't clean any better, it's its most intensive cycle.
The F&P is doing that on its Normal cycle, it still has at least 2 cycles that would clean even better.
YES IT IS!!!!!! Cycle time temp everything is the same, do you not have common sense?? There is a cycle on the tr7 called max soil, it has an even longer wash time AND a soak period. You do not know what you are talking about.
Im done trying to explain common sense to people too challenged to comprehend. WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF WASH TIME THEY PERFORM THE SAME!!!! Ughh. 50 min and 55 min pretty comparable to me. You are trying to compare a 28 min cycle to a 55 min cycle. Heavy duty is basically speed queens normal cycle. Even says in the owners manual normal eco is only for "lightly soiled items"
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No one is saying SQ as a whole is the modern day WCI, that all of their products are junk. Were just saying their top loaders are junk. Front loaders are still cool with us.
All stains left after washing.
http://laundry.reviewed.com/content/speed-queen-awne92sp113tw-washing-machine-review
http://laundry.reviewed.com/content/speed-queen-awne92sp113tw-washing-machine-review
I told you!
I told you it doesn't work!
I told you it doesn't work!
After a bad review from CNET on the new Speed Queen laundry. This is a letter we received from Speed Queen. We have sold several of these machines our customers have been very happy.
Speed Queen Home Laundry Reviews
Dear Valued Speed Queen Home Dealer:
Over the last several days, you may have been made aware of reviews of Speed Queen’s 2018 top load washer by Consumer Reports and CNET. They were not flattering.
However, they were not accurate, either.
As you may have customers reference these reviews, it’s important that you and your sales staff have all the information to share with them.
Both entities ran tests utilizing the Normal-Eco cycle. This cycle was NEVER designed to handle the heavy soil stains – blood, wine, chocolate, etc. – they used to gauge washability. The Normal-Eco cycle, as stated in the user’s guide, is for everyday cottons and linens. Speed Queen’s Heavy Duty cycle is the most effective selection for maximum stain removal. And in this area, we excel.
Using those same standardized Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers (AHAM) tests, the SQ top load washer Heavy Duty cycle performed 23 percent BETTER than the Normal-Eco cycle and 5 percent better than our 2017 model’s Heavy Duty cycle. These results were more than 5 percent better than a popular competitor’s Heavy Duty cycle.
Reviewers and social media detractors want to spotlight the top load’s new wash action as a problem. However, as the numbers above show, it is actually delivering improved wash quality. In addition, it is 20 percent more gentle on fabrics – a key point to make with customers, as we all know how much we spend annually on clothing, particularly athletic clothes with technical fibers.
The bottom line is that our 2018 redesign made an already great product even better. Speed Queen spent three years in research, development and testing, in addition to thousands of engineering hours designing this commercial quality washer. We built in a Normal-Eco cycle to meet DOE standards for light soil items, while offering users greater flexibility to select the best cycle for their soil level. We made it quieter and ramped up the spin speed to reduce drying time.
While no washer on the market today will remove every stain 100 percent of the time, our 2018 top load delivers excellent wash performance. In addition, consumers get all the hallmarks of a commercial quality Speed Queen product – unmatched commercial quality components, exceptional reliability and industry-best warranties, all from a company with a 110-year pedigree of excellence. Laundry is all we do.
Watch for additional communications on this topic and, in the meantime, visit our YouTube channel to learn about the new product, or visit the Speed Queen Dealer Center to read a letter from Jay McDonald, vice president of North American home laundry sales.
Speed Queen Retail Marketing Team
Speed Queen Home Laundry Reviews
Dear Valued Speed Queen Home Dealer:
Over the last several days, you may have been made aware of reviews of Speed Queen’s 2018 top load washer by Consumer Reports and CNET. They were not flattering.
However, they were not accurate, either.
As you may have customers reference these reviews, it’s important that you and your sales staff have all the information to share with them.
Both entities ran tests utilizing the Normal-Eco cycle. This cycle was NEVER designed to handle the heavy soil stains – blood, wine, chocolate, etc. – they used to gauge washability. The Normal-Eco cycle, as stated in the user’s guide, is for everyday cottons and linens. Speed Queen’s Heavy Duty cycle is the most effective selection for maximum stain removal. And in this area, we excel.
Using those same standardized Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers (AHAM) tests, the SQ top load washer Heavy Duty cycle performed 23 percent BETTER than the Normal-Eco cycle and 5 percent better than our 2017 model’s Heavy Duty cycle. These results were more than 5 percent better than a popular competitor’s Heavy Duty cycle.
Reviewers and social media detractors want to spotlight the top load’s new wash action as a problem. However, as the numbers above show, it is actually delivering improved wash quality. In addition, it is 20 percent more gentle on fabrics – a key point to make with customers, as we all know how much we spend annually on clothing, particularly athletic clothes with technical fibers.
The bottom line is that our 2018 redesign made an already great product even better. Speed Queen spent three years in research, development and testing, in addition to thousands of engineering hours designing this commercial quality washer. We built in a Normal-Eco cycle to meet DOE standards for light soil items, while offering users greater flexibility to select the best cycle for their soil level. We made it quieter and ramped up the spin speed to reduce drying time.
While no washer on the market today will remove every stain 100 percent of the time, our 2018 top load delivers excellent wash performance. In addition, consumers get all the hallmarks of a commercial quality Speed Queen product – unmatched commercial quality components, exceptional reliability and industry-best warranties, all from a company with a 110-year pedigree of excellence. Laundry is all we do.
Watch for additional communications on this topic and, in the meantime, visit our YouTube channel to learn about the new product, or visit the Speed Queen Dealer Center to read a letter from Jay McDonald, vice president of North American home laundry sales.
Speed Queen Retail Marketing Team
I’m a “social media detractor” lol
In all seriousness, I did all of my testing with the heavy duty cycle. I never used the normal cycle ever.
I hope...
they improve their wash action, period.
they improve their wash action, period.
speedqueen
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You received this letter?
Does that mean you are a Speed Queen Dealer?
There was a man on this forum who immediately after purchasing liked it and after using it for a couple months has now changed his mind,[this post was last edited: 5/11/2018-22:29]
Does that mean you are a Speed Queen Dealer?
There was a man on this forum who immediately after purchasing liked it and after using it for a couple months has now changed his mind,[this post was last edited: 5/11/2018-22:29]
That was in reference to eugenes video. Then i saw other videos (not pre production machine) and realized it was quite good. Hos machine can't even move around 5 pairs of dickies, yet kirks moves around 5 pairs of jeans like crazy.
speed queen...
needs to improve on their entire wash system.
needs to improve on their entire wash system.
I will
I will certainly comment on the Reviewed webpage.
"For example, the similarly priced Electrolux EFLS617SIW removed 27 percent more stains than this Speed Queen on its Heavy Duty cycle and 13 percent more stains on its Whites cycle. We got similar results from Kenmore, LG, Maytag, and Whirlpool front-loaders"
They used the Whites and Heavy Duty cycles as their comparison. In CR's testing, these machines using the Normal cycle took nearly 2 hours. These Whites and Heavy Duty cycles are likely the same time. Are you going to admit that Reviewed found significantly WORSE results with the 2018 machine? They did. I find it appalling that SQ is stating that the Normal cycle is designed for light soil loads when it is the NORMAL cycle. Imagine a dishwasher being discussed in the same manner. Would you eat off of those dishes? I sure as hell wouldn't.
I will certainly comment on the Reviewed webpage.
"For example, the similarly priced Electrolux EFLS617SIW removed 27 percent more stains than this Speed Queen on its Heavy Duty cycle and 13 percent more stains on its Whites cycle. We got similar results from Kenmore, LG, Maytag, and Whirlpool front-loaders"
They used the Whites and Heavy Duty cycles as their comparison. In CR's testing, these machines using the Normal cycle took nearly 2 hours. These Whites and Heavy Duty cycles are likely the same time. Are you going to admit that Reviewed found significantly WORSE results with the 2018 machine? They did. I find it appalling that SQ is stating that the Normal cycle is designed for light soil loads when it is the NORMAL cycle. Imagine a dishwasher being discussed in the same manner. Would you eat off of those dishes? I sure as hell wouldn't.
