Well, I think Staber is not well known because they are not sold in stores. Staber washers have problems with realiability and durability despite the fact that they are claimed to be commercial-grade. Also, since many USA citizens are not Do-It-Yourselfers they don't want to have to fix the washers themselves. However, Staber improves the machine based on customer feedback and have done so for 13 years since they first introduced the Staber washer. Also, the 750 RPM spin is indeed slow for a modern washer and a horizontal-axis machine. However the machine extracts 175 Gs of water per minute so the laundry is iron-dry upon coming out of the washer. The Staber dryer has an automatic dry cycle which can dry the laundry in no time.
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Speaking from experience, funguy?
The dryers are sourced from Whirlpool.
Speaking from experience, funguy?
The dryers are sourced from Whirlpool.
2.0 cubic feet is slightly smaller than the large capacity standard European washers that do 8kg washes. The likes of the Ariston/Hotpoint Aqualtis has a 62 liter or 2.189 cuFt drum. That machine quite comfortably takes a large duvet (comforter) or easily up to 15/16 bath towels.
Also, unlike top loader agitator machines, H-Axis washers can deal with laundry that would float on top and not be pulled down e.g. pillows.
2.0 cuft isn't great though given how large those machines are i.e. standard US washer dimensions.
The 2.189 cuft european models are a standard European cabinet unit. The Staber must be using a more "traditional" front loader style layout.
Also, unlike top loader agitator machines, H-Axis washers can deal with laundry that would float on top and not be pulled down e.g. pillows.
2.0 cuft isn't great though given how large those machines are i.e. standard US washer dimensions.
The 2.189 cuft european models are a standard European cabinet unit. The Staber must be using a more "traditional" front loader style layout.
Staber
Has served the off-grid, independent (by choice or not) market here in the Rocky Mountain West for many years.
They do have a lot of the problems which any company will have when you are basically re-inventing the wheel but don't have the resources to test out every design in every possible situation.
The relatively slow spin speed for a horizontal-axis is to some extent mitigated by the spin program and the size of the tub - remember, the larger the tub, the higher the centrifugal force relative to the rpm (anal retentives don't bother, I could care less).
They are to be applauded for being the only American firm to have the balls to do something new and positive in decades. If you compare their results and reliability to the TLs they were designed to compete against, then they win hands down. It is only in comparison to the technology the rest of the world uses that they come in second-place. This is one of those companies which really deserves a chance. If I had 50 million $ or so lying around, they'd be prime candidates for me to invest in.
Has served the off-grid, independent (by choice or not) market here in the Rocky Mountain West for many years.
They do have a lot of the problems which any company will have when you are basically re-inventing the wheel but don't have the resources to test out every design in every possible situation.
The relatively slow spin speed for a horizontal-axis is to some extent mitigated by the spin program and the size of the tub - remember, the larger the tub, the higher the centrifugal force relative to the rpm (anal retentives don't bother, I could care less).
They are to be applauded for being the only American firm to have the balls to do something new and positive in decades. If you compare their results and reliability to the TLs they were designed to compete against, then they win hands down. It is only in comparison to the technology the rest of the world uses that they come in second-place. This is one of those companies which really deserves a chance. If I had 50 million $ or so lying around, they'd be prime candidates for me to invest in.
The Staber Washers are expensive
For the money a staber costs, you can get a proper Miele washer.
Compare for yourself:
http://www.us-appliance.com/w4mitosulaca.html
For the money a staber costs, you can get a proper Miele washer.
Compare for yourself:
http://www.us-appliance.com/w4mitosulaca.html
whirlcool
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They sure want a pretty penny for the stainless steel model.
Doesn't Staber also say that they make these machines for the US Navy to be used on ships as well?
Is the noise they make the noise of water being sloshed around or is it a motor noise?
Doesn't Staber also say that they make these machines for the US Navy to be used on ships as well?
Is the noise they make the noise of water being sloshed around or is it a motor noise?
vivalalavatrice
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Import 'em from Europe...
American friends, how haven't ever you thought to import TLHA from Europe?! Are you already doing it!?
I would be the first Eurpean TLHA's importer customers if I lived in the States... but of course reading at what Staber describes...I'll never buy a Staber at all!
European top loading horizontal axis washing machines are indeed deeply different from those...unfortunaltely here we can found only those ugly 40-45cm narrow TL, but I'm sure that if you oversea asked to Whirpool or Miele or other appliances exporters like Electrolux... you could get TLHA 60cm wide with up to 6-7-8Kg like it would be my 1964 TLHA IGNIS!
GoodBye
Diomede
PS: What about the Equator Cobra-Hybrid then?!?!?!
American friends, how haven't ever you thought to import TLHA from Europe?! Are you already doing it!?
I would be the first Eurpean TLHA's importer customers if I lived in the States... but of course reading at what Staber describes...I'll never buy a Staber at all!
European top loading horizontal axis washing machines are indeed deeply different from those...unfortunaltely here we can found only those ugly 40-45cm narrow TL, but I'm sure that if you oversea asked to Whirpool or Miele or other appliances exporters like Electrolux... you could get TLHA 60cm wide with up to 6-7-8Kg like it would be my 1964 TLHA IGNIS!
GoodBye
Diomede
PS: What about the Equator Cobra-Hybrid then?!?!?!
I think the noise of the Staber is both the motor noise and water sloshing about. Remember that the Staber washer's tub design creates a large turbulence in the water. This makes for a lot of splashing and sloshing. Also, remember that any washer will make the most noise during spin.
The Staber Dryer:
Info on the electric dryer:
"This electric dryer model is all white. It offers an extra large capacity 7.0 cubic feet drum to handle the large load sizes from our Staber washer and also to dry more efficiently than dryers with smaller tubs. There are three temperature settings and a moisture sensor to save energy.
Our dryer is the optimum corresponding appliance made specifically to complement our distinctive Staber washer. Our washer has a textured ABS resin top assembly with side rails and the dryer has a flat polyester/enamel top finish. Due to our unique tub design our washer has a curved front panel and the dryer has a straight front which gives our set a distinctive contour. Both washer and dryer exhibit matching control panel profiles, decals and knobs.
The power cord is sold separately."
Model number HXD2304E.
Price $799.00
Info on the electric dryer:
"This electric dryer model is all white. It offers an extra large capacity 7.0 cubic feet drum to handle the large load sizes from our Staber washer and also to dry more efficiently than dryers with smaller tubs. There are three temperature settings and a moisture sensor to save energy.
Our dryer is the optimum corresponding appliance made specifically to complement our distinctive Staber washer. Our washer has a textured ABS resin top assembly with side rails and the dryer has a flat polyester/enamel top finish. Due to our unique tub design our washer has a curved front panel and the dryer has a straight front which gives our set a distinctive contour. Both washer and dryer exhibit matching control panel profiles, decals and knobs.
The power cord is sold separately."
Model number HXD2304E.
Price $799.00
Electric Dryer Specifications:
Motor 1/3-hp with built-in overload protector; centrifugal switch turns off heating element when motor stops
Electrical hook-up 3-wire nominal, 240V, 60 Hz., AC, standard 30-amp. fuse branch circuit (subject to local codes)
Wattage 5600 total heater watts
Shipping weight 160 lbs. if on a pallet shipping by itself; just the dryer in a box is 130 lbs. when shipped on top of a washer
Dimensions 29” wide x 27 13/16” deep x 42” tall
Power Consumption (kWh 30" Cycle) 2.90 (Dryers tested with 15 lb. load.)
Power Consumption (kWh 45" Cycle) 4.35
Power Consumption (kWh 60" Cycle) 5.78
Motor 1/3-hp with built-in overload protector; centrifugal switch turns off heating element when motor stops
Electrical hook-up 3-wire nominal, 240V, 60 Hz., AC, standard 30-amp. fuse branch circuit (subject to local codes)
Wattage 5600 total heater watts
Shipping weight 160 lbs. if on a pallet shipping by itself; just the dryer in a box is 130 lbs. when shipped on top of a washer
Dimensions 29” wide x 27 13/16” deep x 42” tall
Power Consumption (kWh 30" Cycle) 2.90 (Dryers tested with 15 lb. load.)
Power Consumption (kWh 45" Cycle) 4.35
Power Consumption (kWh 60" Cycle) 5.78
Gas Dryer model number HXD2304G
Specifications:
Motor 1/3-hp with built-in overload protector; centrifugal switch turns off gas burner when motor stops
Electrical hook-up Nominal, 120V, 60Hz., AC (subject to local codes)
Gas usage 22,000 BTU (natural gas) per hour. Burner orifices are available for manufactured, natural, mixed, or LP gas with varying BTU ranges.
Shipping weight 160 lbs. if on a pallet shipping by itself; just the dryer in a box is 130 lbs. when shipped on top of a washer
Dimensions 29” wide x 27 13/16” deep x 42” tall
Power Consumption (kWh 30" Cycle) 0.23 (Dryers tested with 15 lb. load.)
Power Consumption (kWh 45" Cycle) 0.34
Power Consumption (kWh 60" Cycle) 0.44
Cu. ft. Gas Consumed at 30" 12.00
Cu. ft. Gas Consumed at 45" 17.80
Cu. ft. Gas Consumed at 60" 23.30
Specifications:
Motor 1/3-hp with built-in overload protector; centrifugal switch turns off gas burner when motor stops
Electrical hook-up Nominal, 120V, 60Hz., AC (subject to local codes)
Gas usage 22,000 BTU (natural gas) per hour. Burner orifices are available for manufactured, natural, mixed, or LP gas with varying BTU ranges.
Shipping weight 160 lbs. if on a pallet shipping by itself; just the dryer in a box is 130 lbs. when shipped on top of a washer
Dimensions 29” wide x 27 13/16” deep x 42” tall
Power Consumption (kWh 30" Cycle) 0.23 (Dryers tested with 15 lb. load.)
Power Consumption (kWh 45" Cycle) 0.34
Power Consumption (kWh 60" Cycle) 0.44
Cu. ft. Gas Consumed at 30" 12.00
Cu. ft. Gas Consumed at 45" 17.80
Cu. ft. Gas Consumed at 60" 23.30
Staber Washers
RUN LIKE HELL ! I have had 2 of them and they were the WORST washers I have had in 40 years. No Service, parts cost mega$$$$ Cpmputer board problems . motor controller problems. Drain problems motor problems. Is there anything I Missed ?In less than a year we sat them out and let the junk man have them.. I have no idea how they are still in business.
RUN LIKE HELL ! I have had 2 of them and they were the WORST washers I have had in 40 years. No Service, parts cost mega$$$$ Cpmputer board problems . motor controller problems. Drain problems motor problems. Is there anything I Missed ?In less than a year we sat them out and let the junk man have them.. I have no idea how they are still in business.
Yes. You neglected to mention fill switch problems, timer problems, belt problems, temp solenoid problems, cycle selector problems and of course bearing problems. I think Staber only sells online because with all the design problems thier washers do have, if they sold in stores there would be a class-action lawsuit and the company would be in deep Doo-Doo. What washer did you replace them with?
Gosh, you had to post all of that information from the Staber website when you could have just given the link to the website. What an amazing waste of bandwidth.
askomiele
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Waste? My waste is really off-topic isn't it?
Well that waste is't that bad... Wasting heat by forgetting to close a door, or waste of money because of a governement who refuses to lower their taxes on gas of gasoile because they can't manage to make no debts that's a waste... A bargan 'BELGIUM' nice people, nice food, gigantic debts and political people who refuses to co-operate like the 'peuple' is doing everyday. Now for 299.95!!!!
Now that's a waste of bandwidth! ;-)
(srry but I don't want to hurt anyone...
)
Well that waste is't that bad... Wasting heat by forgetting to close a door, or waste of money because of a governement who refuses to lower their taxes on gas of gasoile because they can't manage to make no debts that's a waste... A bargan 'BELGIUM' nice people, nice food, gigantic debts and political people who refuses to co-operate like the 'peuple' is doing everyday. Now for 299.95!!!!
Now that's a waste of bandwidth! ;-)
(srry but I don't want to hurt anyone...
)
irishwashguy
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Well, it is nly a thought
I lookied at the Staber before i bought my Miele. The lady at Staber told me that i could do all of the service myself. Frankly, at the moment that I bought my last set, I was not interested in servicing anything! I just wanted something that was "bulet proof" that would not have to be depenable. I could not even change the headlight on my new car because it was behind the battery, I'm not going to work on my washer, what a pain. The main reason that Staber told me that they are not nationwide is distribution. She said it is expensive, i believe it. They said that they were not interested in it, that they were doing just fine they way that they were, thank you. I would still ike to play with one sometime anyway. I have never seen one in person.
I lookied at the Staber before i bought my Miele. The lady at Staber told me that i could do all of the service myself. Frankly, at the moment that I bought my last set, I was not interested in servicing anything! I just wanted something that was "bulet proof" that would not have to be depenable. I could not even change the headlight on my new car because it was behind the battery, I'm not going to work on my washer, what a pain. The main reason that Staber told me that they are not nationwide is distribution. She said it is expensive, i believe it. They said that they were not interested in it, that they were doing just fine they way that they were, thank you. I would still ike to play with one sometime anyway. I have never seen one in person.
The models we had did have a computer board
It got wet twice and was replaced by them both times then they sent a piece of plastic to put over it. The last time was just before I junked them! You would think they would have found a better place to put them besides under the fill valves that leaked from day 1
It got wet twice and was replaced by them both times then they sent a piece of plastic to put over it. The last time was just before I junked them! You would think they would have found a better place to put them besides under the fill valves that leaked from day 1
