Sunbeam 2379 Mixmaster

[petek]

A pic of the Bosch

Here's my Bosch Universal. IMHO vastly superior to traditional mixers a la KA and Kenwood Chef. Only weighs 11 pounds as you can see I'm picking it up with one hand, taking pic with the other, but can knead 10 cups of flour with ease and you don't need to shout or wear earplugs using it like the KA's and KW's. Now I have to incurr the wrath of all the KA owners here LOL

 

[scott55405]

Pete, have you tried using your Bosch for non-bread things like cookies, cakes, batters, etc? Does it work just as admirably in these instances?

 

[petek]

Scott: It's an all round wonderful mixer. I've made cake batters, lots and lots of stiff chocolate chip cookie dough (a tough chore on a mixer) and it works beautifully. I tested Boschs claim that it can whip one solitary egg white into a meringue and it does...posted that back on the kitchen web last year I think. Still in all it is overkill if all you're gonna be making is the occasional packaged cake mix. I still use my Mixmaster removed from the stand directly into the potato pot for making mashed potatoes and the little Rival handheld for other small stuff.. BTW that Rival is also a superb little mixer for being fairly newish

 

[mixfinder]

Mixed up

If it was possible to have a mixer that excelled at each job, the Bosch is great at making bread.
The beater assembly is a bar that fits over the top of the bowl with a small beater on each end. The bowl is shaped like an Angel Food cake pan and the beaters spin as the bar revolves around the bowl. It is impossible to add ingredients while its mixing and to scrape the bowl you need to stop the mixer and remove the shield. For years, the allpurpose beater whisks were all that was available for mixing and they would twist, bend and crumble if used on heavy dough. Bosch now makes a cookie beater which can stand up to heavy batters.
Kelly
Kelly

 

[petek]

Kelly, what do you mean it's impossible to add ingredients while it's mixing? It's an open bowl if you're not using the lid, which I don't most of the time. Works fine without it anyways and would be just another piece to wash unless you're doing something that's gonna be really splashy.

 

[scott55405]

Thanks Pete, the reason I was wondering is because over on the cooking forum, it seems very popular, if you have one of these Boschs or a Magic Mill or something like that and use it for bread, to want to keep a KA as well for other things.

 

[petek]

Re the Magic Mill also known as the Electrolux Assistent is a similar principle machine to the Bosch but is has a differently designed kneading hook which they call a roller scraper and it's adjustable. I've never used one and the owners love em but I read lots of new owners seem to have a heck of a time getting the thing adjusted properly etc etc to the point of exasperation.

 

[sukething]

I am sorry for being a little late to ad to this thread...

I have read all of your comments and find them all fasinating. I do have my fair share of mixers as well as vacuums. Of course always interested in getting a few more.

A antique shop not to far from where I live has a Sunbeam pink and a blue mixer with both bowls, I so want them but they are $120 a piece and wish I could afford them. Not now with just losing my job and all.

I do have my already mixmasters in my collection and Hamilton Beaches.

Thank you Charles for letting us know about the place that will fix your olders appliances, cause my one Hamilton beach,(which was my grandmothers)is starting to wear down, bless its little old heart. I would love to get it fixed. It does have the juicer and have used it that attachment.

I will ad more later to this...thanks again gentlemen...

David

 

[maggie~hamilton]

Well, I decided to take the plunge

and see if I can fix this thing. It's really in beautiful shape cosmetically so it would be a shame to just throw it out. I found some pretty detailed lubing instructions and I'm gonna do it. Wish me well. I'll document the procedure and post it if y'all are interested. I do hope it's just a matter of lubrication but frankly I am not overly optimistic. It seems to be making "bad armature" noises.

One little snag - I can't find the correct beaters (the ones in the photo are from a Model 10), small bowl or pedestal. (I told you I don't use it very often!) I did secure a set of bowls and beaters from eBay (I like the clear glass bowls better -- not original, but they show off the mixer more nicely), but I don't want to have to buy a whole rig just to get the pedestal. Anyone have one that they can spare kinda cheep?! It's black plastic. THX

 

[maggie~hamilton]

(note -

by pedestal, I mean the round spinning disk that the bowl sits on. I don't know the correct technical term for it! If it was a Hoover or Compact vacuum cleaner, it would have a name like RotataWhirler or Spin-u-lator!! hahaha)

 

[sukething]

Charles...I will try to help if I can...

Every once in a a while I will this mixer or parts of it. I will try to help you find the right stuff. I recognize this particular mixer because it was the second one my mother owned after her 1950 model, the one that they got when they got married. The chrome and black one was her second. I will do my best

David

 

[mixfinder]

Dr Sunbeam

I have any part you need for that mixer, and I am more than happy to send them to you. This is the MM series that I wrote about earlier in the post. If the mixer is operational, there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to take it apart. It is especially designed to NEVER need lubrication.

Kelly

 

[mixfinder]

Similarly Different

The beaters used in the MM look like typical Bowl-Fit beaters, but the washer is spaced further up on the beater shaft than the beaters that worked on the 10, 11 and 12.
The turnatble looks almost the same as the 10, 11 and 12, but there is a collar on the stem that holds the turntable further away from the bearings.
The bowls are interchangeable.
Kelly

 

[scott55405]

I have an MM mixer

that Kelly educated me about when I got it. It's a wonderful unit! Originally I'd purchased it for someone else, but she wound up getting a KA, which was just as well, since I don't think I could have parted with this one after all!

 

[scott55405]

Signature Mixer

I believe this unit is a pseudo-copy of the Vista V-14 mixer of which Kelly speaks. The stand is identical for the two I think, it has a 150 watt motor and uses the Vista's longer-shaft beaters.

 

[mixfinder]

V-14

Scott is correct, the Mongomery Ward mixer has Sunbeam innards. I like the Signature designed motor housing. It look very modern. One nice effect of the longer beater shaft on the Vista is that you have more room to add ingredients, scrape the bowl and less batter hits the motor housing when mixing double batches.
Scott's MM is in mint condition. When taking an MM apart it is near impossible to remove the escutcheon without bending it. For that reason, if the mixer is working well, I see no reason to take it apart and attempt oiling it.
Kelly

 

[danemodsandy]

For Kelly: Sunbeam PTO

Kelly:

While we're on this topic, do you know the correct PTO and grinder numbers to use with the MM series?

 

[mixfinder]

PTO

Sandy,
I don't know the number from memory, but I'll email my friend Al, who was my boss, when I work in Seattle, during college years. The leg on the PTO is about 1/2 inch taller on the MM than previous ones. If you turn the adjustment screw for beater height to it's lowest setting you can fudge a PTO from the 10 though 12 models. The grinder and any other attachment the plug into the PTO will work interchangable from all the years manufactured.
Kelly

 

[danemodsandy]

Thanks, Kelly!

Kelly:

Thanks- I really am interested in getting the right PTO for an MMB. I likes me a complete machine.

I really appreciate your telling me that the grinder fits either PTO; that simplifies matters considerably. Only the PTO will need to be MM-specific. So, a PTO model number is all I need to go shopping.

Thanks again, and be sure and thank your friend for me!

 

[maggie~hamilton]

"To Disassemble or Not To Disassemble - That is the Que

The beaters in the "Similarly Different" posting (above) are the same ones that came with mine. But as I said, I did already find a set. All I need is the rotating pedestal.

Then, I seem to be getting some conflicting advice here. One person says I must disassemble the mixer and grease the bearings, another says don't touch it...

I will say, as bad as it sounds I can't see how opening it up and giving it a good grease job will hurt it any. I mean, it can't get any worse than it already is!

I did find a web site with very clear and detailed instructions on how to take apart and grease this model. I printed out the instructions but don't remember the URL. I guess I can "re-google" it if anyone is curious.

I made a little video where you can hear for yourself what it's doing. See link. (It's a 5mb file, so if you are using your 1952 Modem-A-Matic to access the Internet, it may take a couple of minutes to download the video, haha!)

You can hear how the motor sputters and hesitates on certain speeds, and also that speeds 9-12 are the same. In other words, once you hit 9 it does not go any faster. Also, it takes a few minutes for it to wind up to full speed. I turn it on, crank it up to 12, and there is a barely perceptible, gradual increase up to full speed -- it takes 2-3 minutes to get there until it is warmed up, then it goes to full speed sooner --- but still, once you get to 9 it does not go any faster.

And btw, this is the SAME EXACT thing that my turquoise model does. They both have the same exact problems.

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