That damn disease, CANCER!

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I'm so bummed out, my wife's best friend's brother died 9/4 and was buried today(9/8) from a very aggressive case of lung cancer. He was first diagnosed in mid-July, having felt crummy for about a month. He had quit smoking about 20yrs. ago. And a friend of mine is in the end stages of prostate cancer. It has spread to his spine, lungs, liver, and brain, and who knows where else. He is on a morphine IV 24hrs. a day. He too had quit smoking many years ago. I pray everyday that his suffering will come to an end soon as well. May God be merciful unto them.
 
You are not alone

My partner was diagnosed with lung cancer 6/98, died in two months - it having spread to his brain. My cousin had same diagnosis and was at death's door; mysteriously went into remission and lived two more years. Even returned to work! It reappeared and she passed quickly.

Where there is life there is hope. Try to convey peace to these friends; sometimes that's all you can do.

God bless.
 
Interesting thread started here. Today 9/8 /2008 my partner and I found out that he has emphasema...I dont think I am spelling it right but its not an issue...anyways he was also told today that he has a growth on his thyroid. He goes for more tests on Wednesday. To be honest it hit me hard and i couldnt stop crying for an hour or so. Sobbing like my heart was ripped out thinking that I could lose him. And all i could think of was he has to get his Will updated and I was thinking who would take care of him if I should go first. Then came the cats and who would take care of them and where will they go. I know pathetic eh but the things running thru my mind was unreal. And thats not like me.
So tonight we went out and told a few close friends of ours what we found out and of course you get the smart ass ones saying.."oh your a great pair now...one has a heart attack and the other will need a tank of oxygen" or "when are you going to get your Scooter store scooter?" So I kinda saw the humor in it but knowing we will get thru this like everything else we have gone thru.
Life is so precious and short because lets face it when your dead thats for a long time. And I dont plan on taking a dirt nap anytime soon.
 
That's a lot of news to process in one fell swoop, Mike. It's also normal for a million thoughts to race through your mind, although you don't want to let them get the best of you.

Write each of your concerns down on paper as a 'heading', so that when you think of ideas, or solutions, or make decisions about them, you can write them down underneath the heading and check off that particular concern. It's a psychological trick to help ease your mind. Keep it by your bed, so if you awake during the night with worry, you can access it.

Although it may feel uncomfortable to think about updating wills, etc., it's a good thing to do, and it will be a load off your mind.
 
Mom had her Whipple procedure for pancreatic cancer almost 2 years ago now. She's going in for her PET scan the first week of October and is scared she is going to get bad news. I say, she has already beaten the odds, why should it be bad? You can't tell her anything...

But, pancreatic is nasty and you never know with that one. We're just thankful for every day with her now...
 
I agree totally with Eugene. My wife and I have even gone so far as to pre-arrange things at the funeral home. I know it sounds morbid, but your family will be grateful when the time comes, and come it does for us all. We have our burial plots too, with her parents.
 
Cancer

Tim, you are right about this terrible disease cancer,every member of my family who has died, has died from differnet types of cancers with the exception of my mother, she had a stroke had during heart surgery.
I was with my father on his last day in hospital with prostate cancer, and it was terrible watching him just writhing in pain despite large doses of morphine, and when he finally went, I did not know wether to feel relief that his suffering was over,or feel cheated that my dad was taken from me.
I did finally realise that it was probably better that dad went and was not suffering any longer,however it does leave a big hole in one's heart for a very long time.
I hope you find the strength to carry on and that your pain does not last too long.
All the best.
Steve.
 
Oh my, i don't know what to say.

i had a friend that was diagnosed with the big "C' and died two days later on 08/07/2008 at the age of 44. My Gram has overian cancer for the fourth time and is hanging in there. I have a great family, Aunt Sharron is looking after her.She is having a hard time with the cemo, sorry, I am going to cry. .....It is hard to think about someone you Love having to go though it. I see my Gram and tell her jokes, to take her mind off of it., as well as it helps me and the rest of my family deal with it. My other Gram died six years ago on 03/19/2002 of a metastisized cancer that had started in her upper back . They took it out, but it had spread all over her little frame especially her stomach., she was only 5 feet tall, and sharp till the end. I am sorry, this is tough to think about. I am with you guys, my Grandma Chris made it to her 90th birthday, and like my other Gram, had an amazing attitude. It is still hard when you Love and care about someone. I am glad that she is not in pain anymore.
 
My Sister...

Was a Figure Skating Instructor her whole life. Never smoked a cigarette in her life. Diagnosed with Colon Cancer,had an Operation, died a year later. Since then, I have been doing some research on the internet. Germany treats cancer by raising the body temperature for an extended period of time. Cancer does not like heat. That is one of the methods they use. Also check out the story of Harry Hoxie. Very Interesting.A Doctor from Italy is now treating Cancer like a fungus. Go to mercola.com and check it out. These are my opinions and personal thoughts:
I believe that the entire health system in this country are totally set up for profit.I really think BigPharma, the AMA,and the others in the "Club" give a Rat's Ass about anyone until it is directly effects their personal family members.Chemo is toxic and poison. And Radiation destroys the Immune System. I do know by a stroke of luck this has helped helped certain types of cancer.It certainly did not work for my sister.It's a matter of MORE MONEY.Having HIV for 27 years and never going on any meds for it,proves to me that through Nutritional Suppliments, a Good Diet, and an Herbal Tincture,people are too quick to follow the Dr's Orders.I truly believe in Alternative Medicine. I also go to Accupuncture for Immune System Boosts. If I someday do not feel like I'm firing on all 8s,I'll take a whole day and rest. I am in the Restaurant Buisness and I am Very Active all day. My Counts are good and I feel fine. I have never had a Pneumonia,Flu, or Hep Vaccinations because I don't believe in taxing an already impaired immune system. I have not had a cold or the flu in years.And also more and more information on vaccines are proving how toxic they really are. I had a patch of psoriasis (sp?) on my scalp for 12 years. I was using Selsun Blue and a topical cream. I finally stopped it all and bought a bar of Tom's of Maine Calandula Soap and started wshing my hair with that. Two weeks later, it cleared up.
I did not mean to get so off track, but I get very Angry when I hear about people dieing way before their time.
My thoughts and prayers are with everyone here.I am very grateful for finding such a nice group of people.
Eddie
 
I am very sorry to hear

of all these very sad situations. My fingers are crossed for all of you caught up in these problems.
I wouldn't place too much faith in the German and European cancer treatments. Yes, we have better treatment and recovery rates than in the US, but that has less to do with a more advanced technology than with a decent health care system for all.
I lost both of my grandfathers to lung cancer and it is a tough one to face. My partner and I have an armed truce on the subject of smoking, it is one of my greatest fears.
What I do not understand about care in the US is the stinginess on using effective palliative and ameliorative treatment. If you know someone is going to die of cancer, then for heaven's sake, give them the opiates and steroids and other help to make their last days pain-free. It took decades for medicine to win those concessions from the government in Germany, but now people dying can at least die without the incredible pain.
 
My thoughts are with all of you. I lost 3 of my Grandparents to Cancer and know how hopeless and helpless it can feel. I also used to work in a cancer center here in Florida (in IT) and saw patients all the time when I had to work in the hospital or one of the clinics. It's a terrifying thing. I always have that worry whenever I go to the doctor since it's in my family. Keep positive thoughts and if you want to chat just email me, I'm only a phone call away as I'm sure most of the members here feel. We're all family, here to help and support one another as best we can whenever needed.
 
I can't tell you how much I hate this disease. I have lost way too many friends and family members to this. I don't think we will ever find a cure for this. The reason I say this is because if we take care of ourselves, eat right but who is to say what is right, take everything in moderation, well almost everything, and we live to a ripe old age of 100, guess what is going to end it for you. It is either going to be a form of cancer or a form of heart disease. These are the two final things that are going to get all of us. No way out folks. Have worked in medical for many years have spoken to so many doctors and professors and they all agree. I hate being a realist but those are the cards we are dealt with as human beings and I for one and NOT happy about it. You just feel so helpless watching a loved one going thru so much and declining in front of you. Faith and good friends and family will get us all thru these trials of life.
Jon
 
I pray everyday that his suffering will come to an end soon

Don't underestimate the power of prayer. In Rich's case, his body was not used to alcohol or drugs, so we expected a lot worse reaction to the poison (chemo). When it was all done, and we saw the oncologist, Rich mentioned that it wasn't as bad as he thought it would be, and maybe that had something to do with it possibly being a pretty base dose of chemo?? Nope, she said. The treatment he got was one of the most harsh combos they administer!

But, he had a LOT of people praying for him (not to mention the mountains of prayers he said himself), including some he had never met like the parents of some of the kids I drive. I'm sure that made the difference.

Best wishes, and hopefully whatever the best is for your friend happens soon.

Chuck
 
My mother got her diagnosis on July, 10th. She came home, when I was ironing some sheets and then I went down to ask what´s wrong (we knew before, that there´s something wrong, but we didn´t know what it was). So she told me, she had breast cancer. I was quite shocked and couldn´t do anything different as to cry. The following days were very hard for me and my mum. Some weeks later, my mum started her "chemotherapy" which made her loose all her hair, which of course is very hard to a woman. But now she´s wearing a wig and so it´s okay to her. Last week, she got her third (of 6) chemotherapys and the doctors also checked the tumors and they were almost disappeared. I think we will fight the cancer and I hope my mum and I will get back our lifes that we had before. It sometimes is very hard because my mum does not feel well and she also thinks she will die soon, which hurts me a lot. But anyway I help her a lot and i always try to be funny to improve her mood.
 
You are a wonderful person and son. She is proud of you I am sure. I have to look but I know I have it somewhere on another computer. I got an email the other day about cancer and what you can do to help eliminate it from your body. It made perfect sense when reading it. I remember a few of the points. No red meat. Getting your body to an alykaline state instead of accidict thru diet. I will find it and post it tomorrow. I think everyone will get something out of it.
Jon
 
Ok I found it a bit lengthy but interesting.
Cancer Update from John Hopkins

1. Every person has cancer cells in the body. These cancer cells do not show up in the standard
tests until they have multiplied to a few billion. When doctors tell cancer patients that there are no more cancer cells in their bodies after treatment, it just means the tests are unable to detect the cancer cells because they have not reached the detectable size.

2. Cancer cells occur between 6 to more than 10 times in a person's lifetime

3. When the person's immune system is strong the cancer cells will be destroyed and prevented
from multiplyin! g and fo rming tumors.

4. When a person has cancer it indicates the person has multiple nutritional deficiencies. These
could be due to genetic, environmental, food and lifestyle factors.

5. To overcome the multiple nutritional deficiencies, changing diet and including supplements will strengthen the immune system.

6. Chemotherapy involves poisoning the rapidly-growing cancer cells and also destroys rapidly-growing healthy cells in the bone marrow, gastro-intestinal tract etc, and can cause organ damage, like liver, kidneys, heart, lungs etc.

7. Radiation while destroying cancer cells also burns, scars and damages healthy cells, tissues and organs.

8. Initial treatment with chemotherapy and radiation will often reduce tumor size. However prolonged use of chemotherapy and radiation do not result in more tumor destruction.

9 When the body has too much toxic burden from chemotherapy and radiation the immune system is either compromised or destroyed, hence the person can succumb to various kinds of infections and complications.

10. Chemotherapy and radiation can cause cancer cells to mutate and become resistant and difficult to destroy. Surgery can also cause cancer cells to spread to other sites.

11. An effective way to battle cancer is to starve the cancer cells by not feeding it with the foods it needs to multiply.

CANCER CELLS FEED ON:

a. Sugar is a cancer-feeder. By cutting off sugar it cuts off one important food supply to the cancer cells. Sugar substitutes like NutraSweet, Equal,Spoonful, etc are made with Aspartame and it is harmful. A better natural substitute would be Manuka honey or molasses but only in very small amounts. Table salt has a chemical added to make it white in color. Better alternative is Bragg's aminos or sea salt.

b. Milk causes the body to produce mucus, especially in the gastro-intestinal tract. Cancer feeds on mucus. By cutting off milk and substituting with unsweetened soya milk cancer cells are being starved.

c. Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment. A meat-based diet is acidic and it is best to eat fish, and a little chicken rather than beef or pork. Meat also contains livestock antibiotics, growth hormones and parasites, which are all harmful, especially to people with cancer.

d. A diet made of 80% fresh vegetables and juice, whole grains,seeds, nuts and a little fruit help put the body into an alkaline environment.About 20% can be from cooked food including beans. Fresh vegetable juices provide live enzymes that are easily absorbed and reach down to cellular levels within 15 minutes to nourish and enhance growth of healthy cells. To obtain live enzymes for building healthy cells try and drink fresh vegetable juice (most vegetables including bean sprouts)and eat some raw vegetables 2 or 3 times a day. Enzymes are destroyed at
temperatures of 104 degrees F (40 degrees C).

e. Avoid coffee, tea, and chocolate, which have high caffeine.Green tea is a better alternative and has cancer-fighting properties. Water-best to drink purified water, or filtered, to avoid known toxins and heavy metals in tap water. Distilled water is acidic, avoid it.

12. Meat protein is difficult to digest and requires a lot of digestive enzymes. Undigested meat remaining in the intestines become putrified and leads to more toxic buildup.

13. Cancer cell walls have a tough protein covering. By refraining from or eating less meat it frees more enzymes to attack the protein walls of cancer cells and allows the body's killer cells to destroy the cancer cells.

14. Some supplements build up the immune system (IP6, Flor-ssence,Essiac, anti-oxidants, vitamins, minerals, EFAs etc.) to enable the body's own killer cells to destroy cancer cells. Other supplements like vitamin E are known to cause apoptosis, or programmed cell death, the body's normal method of disposing of damaged, unwanted, or unneeded cells.

15. Cancer is a disease of the mind, body, and spirit. A proactive and positive spirit will help the cancer warrior be a survivor. Anger, unforgiveness and bitterness put the body into a stressful and acidic environment. Learn to have a loving and forgiving spirit. Learn to relax and enjoy life.

16. Cancer cells cannot thrive in an oxygenated environment. Exercising daily, and deep breathing help to get more oxygen down to the cellular level. Oxygen therapy is another means employed to destroy cancer cells.

NEW CANCER UPDATE FROM JOHN HOPKINS HOSPITAL , U S - PLEASE READ

1. No plastic containers in microwave. 2. No water bottles in freezer. 3. No plastic wrap in microwave.

Johns Hopkins has recently sent this out in its newsletters. This information is being circulated at Walter Reed Army Medical Center as well. Dioxin chemicals causes cancer, especially breast cancer. Dioxins are highly poisonous to the cells of our bodies. Don't freeze your plastic bottles with water in them as this releases dioxins from the plastic. Recently, Dr. Edward Fujimoto, Wellness Program Manager at Castle Hospital , was on a TV program to explain this health hazard He talked about dioxins and how bad they are for us.. He said that we should not be heating our food in the microwave using plastic containers. This especially applies to foods that contain fat. He said that the combination of fat, high heat, and plastics releases dioxin into the food and ul! timately into the cells of the body. Instead, he recommends using glass, such as Corning Ware, Pyrex or ceramic containers for heating food. You get the same results, only without the dioxin. So such things as TV dinners, instant ramen and soups, etc., should be removed from the container and heated in something else. Paper isn't bad but you don't know what is in the paper. It's just safer to use tempered glass, Corning Ware, etc. He reminded us that a while ago some of the fast food restaurants moved away from the foam containers to paper. The dioxin problem is one of the reasons.
Also, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran, is just as dangerous when placed over foods! to be c ooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked, the high heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out of the plastic wrap and drip into the food. Cover food with a paper towel instead.

This is an article that should be sent to anyone important in your life.
 
Thank you so much for the compliment and thanks for this text stuffed with lots of information...I didn´t know before that there are cancer cells in my body and that nutrition plays a role to prevent cancer. I was a bit astonished about how well I´m feeding cancer cells..I drink lots of coffee with a lot of sugar and milk, I love eating chocolate and love everything with sugar...I think I should change my habits because I´m afraid of getting cancer, too.
 
Pancreatic Cancer

My mom's neighbor and an Aunt both were diagnosed with Pancreatic stage 4 cancer. The neighbor in mid-May and the Aunt in early June of 2008. We buried the aunt in early August. It spread fast from the pancreas, to the liver and the intestines. They tried chemo and she developed a perforated ulcer that required immediate surgery. Her lower stomach and upper intestine had to be removed. She was never able resume treatment and died in the hospital 12 day later. She was unable to talk or swallow for the last 6 days of her life. Now the neighbor is in the hospital and I am suspecting that the beginning of her end is at hand as well. I was close to both of these women growing up and it's not easing seeing and knowing their suffering.
 
I lost my Dad to cancer

For the most part, my dad has always been in good health. Whe he suffered a stroke in January of this year, he recovered quickly but could no longer drive. With in a week after coming home, he has Sepsis -blood poisoning and went back to the hospital. He never made it back home. In the rehab center in late Feburary he looked like the picture of health on Friday but by Monday I had him taken back to the hospital. Eventually he ended up in Oncology where it was discovered he had Leukemia. The doctor treating him seemed to believe that it could be treated and put into remission. Six weeks later he was back in the rehab center. He never was the same. Then May 12, 2008 he had a follow up appointment with the doctor in his office. The leukemia was back. May 19th he visited the doctor again to see his progress but was immediately admitted back into the hospital. He lost conscientiousness on May 20th and died the 23rd. The day before he died, I told him I loved him, thanked him for all he ever did for me and told him if it's time to go I would be ok. The next morning at 9 am, I went to the hospital and walked into an empty room. He had died at 12:45 am and the nurses did not inform the family. They claimed they had no contact information. I was numb to say the least. I had the duty to inform my faimly and my dad's friends he was gone. Now after 4 months I still can't seem to believe he's gone. I find myself crying at the oddest times, but I know he's in a better place. I did his eulogy at the graveside and many of the people attending said he would have been proud. I posted it here but it's gone off the forum now. But life goes on. People who beat cancer are stronger. It's not the sick who suffer the most sometimes, it's the survivors who bear a lot of pain and sadness. I hope you find strength and happyness too.

Joe
jamman_98
 
Hey everyone...well the good news that we got was that the cyst on my partner's thyroid is nothing to worry about ...the doc and the radiologist says its normal. So no more tests need to be done for now. As far as the emphasema there is nothing they can do and its a progressive disease. He has quit smoking thank gawd but this is going to be something he has to live with. So have to see the doc again in a week for a plan of action and see if his meds change.
 
Johns Hopkins "Cancer Update" is a hoax

From Snopes.com:

Cancer Update

Claim: Johns Hopkins Hospital issued a "cancer update" detailing how cancer spreads and recommending methods for treating the disease.

Status: False.

Example: [Collected via e-mail, March 2007]

CANCER UPDATE FROM JOHN HOPKINS HOSPITAL, US - PLEASE READ

("Newsletter Update" text as above follows)

Origins: Just as urban legends and rumors eventually become attached to the most famous exemplars of the subjects they discuss (e.g., any fast food-related legend, no matter where it originates, will inevitably be told about McDonald's), so do many of the spurious medical articles circulated on the Internet eventually become attributed to the world-renowned Johns Hopkins university, medical school, and hospitals.

The "Cancer Update from Johns Hopkins Hospital" quoted above has been forwarded via e-mail as a preface to another piece (about the supposed dangers of using microwave ovens to heat food stored in plastic containers) also falsely said to have originated with Johns Hopkins. Neither article was issued by (or has any connection to) the Johns Hopkins university or hospital, and Johns Hopkins has disclaimed the contents of both.

Of the "Cancer Update" e-mail (most of the information contained within which is of the "quack" variety), Johns Hopkins says:

An email falsely attributed to Johns Hopkins describing properties of cancer cells and suggesting prevention strategies has begun circulating the Internet. Johns Hopkins did not publish the email, entitled "Cancer Update from Johns Hopkins," nor do we endorse its contents. For more information about cancer, please read the information on our web site or visit the National Cancer Institute's web site at www.cancer.gov.




http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cancerupdate.asp
 
Seems more people know someone that does have cancer...

You are all not alone in this at all. I lost my Mom to cancer on October 13th, 2001. She had breast cancer and went through chemotherapy in 1990 - 1991. She said she would never, ever do that again as she hated it. She was given a clean bill of health after treatment. In July 2001 she was feeling more tired and losing energy. She lost 20 lbs as well in a matter of weeks. She finally went to the hospital in mid July and they diagnosed her with liver cancer. She lived on and I went to see her every weekend no matter what. I was dealing with moving into a new building at work, Sept. 11th happened, Mom died, and to top all of that off we had a major sprinkler leak in our building two weeks after we moved in. But with all that I did survive! All of us have to deal with tragedies in our lifetime. But thank God that I had the strength and faith to endure.

Mike
 
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