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Yes I would love to have a 24" stacked setup. But everything is 110volt in my apartment and no gas line in the closet. I don't even have a vent but would be willing to use a vent box. I don't understand why all these foreign machines that have condensor dryers don't make them in 110V. I am not going to give up and am not going to just buy anything until I find a solution I would be happy with. I think with that Maytag stack set the dryer only is made in 220 volt.
Thanks
Peter
 
Stack

If I do a stack I also only have 68" height which is perfect for European setups. But for one reason or another one will work or it's the voltage or some other BS. Like I said I was interested in that larger Malber until I seen the new unit that just came out. I like the Ariston from the pictures but nobody in this area sells them let alone the matter of service, and also some from Europe have advised me against it.
Yes Sears does make a 110V dryer but no front load washer to put under it. So I will keep searching. I wish Miele made their smaller units in 110V and that new big model in a combo.
But thats life.
Peter
 
Pete,

Condenser dryers on 110V would take a very long time to dry. Condenser dryers need longer to dry than vented dryers in the first place, but there is also an extra strong blower that needs power too. That blower is there to cool down the condenser with air from the room. That would leave to little power for a decent heating element. I guess it could be done with a heatpump like AEG is building into one model, but that's expensive technology. Way too expensive to build in small quantities I guess, I don't think there would be much interest in such a dryer.

BTW, have you considered my suggestion to put a small 110V dryer in the bathroom? I don't remeber exactly what your bathroom looks like, but would there be space on the wall for a dryer I posted a picture of? And does the window open so you can hang a dryer hose out of it?

Louis
 
Don't quote me on this, but seem to remember reading some where that Miele is going to launch a line of 5k washing machines that run on 110v power. Now that Miele builds the 4000 series of washing machines that run on 110v, there isn't much difficulty in building smaller units to run on the same power. Think I saw the blurb over on THS. You might wish to conact Miele USA directly and see what you can find out.

In the meantime keep your eyes peeled for older Miele 1918 washers, as some can run on 120V, just as my W1070 does.

L.
 
Continued!

Louis,
Their is no way to hang any dryer on the wall in my bathroon. And I cannot vent out that window. Their is just not any room anyway in that area.
Laundress. I do like that 4000 Miele but it is really a ton of money. It would be awsome if they made it also in a combo. Thats why I thought 2 smaller units that were stackable would work if I stay within the height limit of 68". Yes I should contact Miele about seeing if their smaller units will be built in 110V. But I doubt if they will build a dryer that way. Again I will probably wait for awhile before I make any decisions.
Thanks
Peter
 
Equator combo

Hey Peter!,
Have you heard of or considered an Equator combo???They are condensing and have a 14-7 lb.capacity. They are reasonably priced.I am very good friends with the owner,Atul,and am sure I could get a great price on one.They have a portability kit(wheels and a faucet adaptor to hook up to a sink)and a strong warrenty that you may extend if you want to.
 
Equator!

I did see those new Equators online. The thing I don't like about them is that they are the same as the Quietline machines where you cannot set the water temperature it goes by whichever fabric you pick. But I don't like most is to my understanding the washing times are extremely long. I realize that the drying cycles would be long but I don't want to deal with long washing times you can't control. The capacity on this machine is something like what I am looking for on a compact unit. Also I am wondering how reliable the unit will be being it's new and the biggest thing is who and how much service is available in New York.
Thanks,
Peter
 
A lot of the dealers in the area don't know from Ariston.

It might help if you ask for "Equator" and then "Ariston".

Was the smaller Whirlpool FL you saw made in Italy?

If so, I saw it in Oberg and Lindquist Appliances on Kinderkamack
Road in Westwood, NJ, recently, but I would have thought it too unwieldy for your space....

Stick to your guns. These companies are forever outsourcing and sooner or later, you'll find something that meets your needs. At least you don't have to worry about a flood busting out all over every time you go out.
 
Pete,

I love Italian design; nobody does it better. But if the LG nightmare was anything to go by, you want a machine to work and work and...well, just sit there and work.
Italian machines are beautiful. They have features and curves and everything...even the sound...is perfect.
But they do not stay in one piece for very long.
Every European maker has had to fight for a niche in order to survive. Miele does it by not compromising on the quality; it costs but at least it works.
Merloni did it with brilliant engineering, great design...and, sadly, less than stellar reliability.
You pay a premium for these machines in the US and they are, sadly, just so not worth it.
When I mentioned "H-Axis" a bit back there, I think I was not clear. I mean the narrow top-loaders which work the same way as front loaders - drum with baffles, not agitator. They come as both washers and dryers.
I will attempt to attach a link below. These machines are built in Italy by the way, but to a much higher standard...

http://www.quelle.de/is-bin/INTERSH...fID=Quelle-quelle_de@975914J&CategoryName=240
 
Responses!

I Scott the machine I saw at the Melber center was just like the Whirlpool small front loader. And that machine has had bad reviews. That was their new P28 model from Malber.
Kevin I really didn't want a top opening machine, that takes up to much space.
I will just wait and see what happens before I make any decisions.
Peter
 
...even the sound...is perfect.

Thanks Keven! I smile hearing from you this...I'm proude of that!

Anyway...here many brands are available...but honestly I don't know which one is in the US available too!

Of course not the Electrloux, or Zanussi...maybe Indesit or Ariston....

Top loading with orizontal axis system I think is the best washer solution in the world...everyone would agree those who don't want to loose TL comfort and those who appreaciate FL benefits...

Overthere in the US only Staber produce and merchandise machine like we know...Equator lastly would be a new solution...eve because it come out with a Combo...what would you like more!

A machine with top loading, washing with the performance of tumble action, and more it's a combo so it washes and dryes...

Think that in France TLHA are a must...I said it several times, there are W,D and WD too avaialble with FL and TL....

GOODBYE
Diomede
 
These machines are built in Italy by the way, but to a much

...I think looking form the pic is an electrolux one...it might be a Rex an AEG or a Zoppas...
 
TLHA...

If you US friends would like to purchase a TLHA from overther the only solution I see in order to avoid Staber is eBay...
try with Britannic side...
here you are a TLHA Whrilpool whashing machine that seems incredible like mine!!!

BYE
Diomede

PS: Europe runs on 220V remeber, and machine ofter are cold fill only, but featured with onboard heater

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WHIRLPOOL-TOP...ryZ20714QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
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Be careful!

I think you're being ripped off on the prices for Ariston and other Merloni machines in the US. In Europe they're bottom to middle of the line machines that retail at low to medium prices. They're not bad, but they're equivilant to similarly positioned US machines i.e. they're not designed to last for ever and they're certainly not even remotely attempting to compete with the likes of Miele or AEG.

If you're paying a huge premium for them, you're being ripped off they're mass-market middle of the road stuff and if anyone's claiming otherwise in the US they're lieing!

Hotpoint-Ariston would be equivilant to Whirlpool or GE.

The European market is a little more compeditive, I think, as we've still got quite a few more players than the US which seems to have consolidated into a few very large manufactuers.

Although, that being said, Europe basically splits into:

Indesit (Merloni): Indesit, Ariston-Hotpoint, Scholtes and a lot of other small brands like in the UK: Creda, Cannon.

Electrolux : More brands than you could shake a stick at! Including Electrolux, AEG-Electrolux, Zanussi-Electrolux, Tricity-Bendix-Electrolux, Arthur Martin-Electrolux, Zoppas, and Wascator

BSH Group: Bosch (Domestic Appliances only), Siemens (Domestic Appliances only), Gaggenau, Neff, Thermador, Constructa, Viva, Ufesa.

Candy Group: Candy, Hoover, Rosieres as well as a few smaller regional brands like Zerowatt and Iberna

SMEG (Smalterie Metallurgiche Emiliane Guastalla)

Miele

& some other smaller players and recent arrivals like LG and Samsung.
 
Hirundo...yes...

I remeber this brand onto the detergent boxcase write under the slogan "this deterngent is recommended by the brands:"...the detergent was Dash..
Now it remeber me Bompani...that remeber me Candy...but the code is the Indesit standard...

It's a very common WD combo here...you find a model like that inside nearly all range brand...

the W/D ratio seems quite good...8/13 a bit more than 6,5/13 which mens drying capacity half than wash capacity...

GoodBye
Diomede

PS: it's undercounter-able...
 
MRX is absolutely in saying so, Peter! He has divided the groups into the correct levels. Here in Germany I would never buy one of the cheap groups - they are all rubbish, I would say! Betrayal of the client! All plastic inside and cheap electrical stuff! Unfortunately only ONE brand survived here that still is QUALITY (I'm not lying!) and that is MIELE. AEG doesn't exist anymore as Siemens does nor Bauknecht or Constructa (the first automatic washer in Germany 1952) and also THE BEST English brands HOOVER and HOTPOINT are gone as well.... They only wear the brand names but are no longer the brand!
Happy Pentcoast to you!
Ralf
 
indesit

Is Merloni, albeit a much better quality than most of their stuff.
Pete, I guess I am just too d-u-m, dumb to express myself here. An H-Axis toploader holds just as much as a front loader, the only difference is that it would give you the space next to it to install a dryer.
Your question why European dryers don't come in 110V is good and Louis pretty much answered it. Very many US machines (and a few European) can be hooked up to run on 110v instead of 220V.
One of my neighbors has used a combo for over 30 years. She only dries half a load at a time and uses a spinner to cut the time for that way down.
Keep looking, at least you are getting all sorts of advice.
Oh - and idea!
GE has a hotline you can call, describe your problems and they will try to find solutions for you.
So let's be creative here:
Could you maybe replace the dishwasher (I assume you have one) with a GE space saver that goes directly under the sink or cooktop and then put a drier (or, more logically) washer there?
Give them a call. I know GE has a bad reputation in the club for their current quality, but gosh...after LG, you probably would be impressed by anything which runs six months without a breakdown.
 

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