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Just returned home from vacation and look what I see on AW!  What an amazing (seems to be the most used word in this thread)find.  Robert, you eiher have the luck of the Irish or the Vintage Washer God is watching over you. Way-to-go!

Certainly brings back memories of my Aunt Alice's 1964 BOL filter-flo hooked up in the bathroom of her farmhouse, draining thru a stand pipe right to the backyard (no suds saver of course). I kick myself over and over for having gotten rid of our 1982 TOL filter-flo for a small oil leak underneath in 2002. That machine was truly wonderful, only replaced the belt, and the clutch drive twice, in 20 years, no other repairs.  It was noisy but cleaned great.  One of my dream machines (1960's). Can't wait to see some videos of your baby in action.  Best of luck, he sure found the best home.
 
BASKET HOLE DESIGNS IN GE FF WASHERS

These were changed in the later machines to combat the consumer complaints of redeposited lint and scum streaks left on dark colored clothing. The problem can occur on any perforated basket machine that spin drains. Both MT and Frigidare 1-18s had problems with this that they never really addressed. This is why that on WPs new DD machines they had to come up with a fix for this problem as both WP and Sears were taking DD washers back and exchanging them with BD machines as many consumers that line dried  clothing were complaining.

 

As we all know the original V-12 machines worked well as can the MTs and Frigidare 1-18s and all were heavily tested before being sold. But interesting things happen when they are in the hands of consumers. But of coerce if you properly sort your clothes and use the correct amount of detergent etc you will never have this problem. Much of this was written about in GE service manuels and discussed at the dozens of service meetings that I have attended over the years.
 
Do all washers with perforated tubs have that big a gap betw

Eugene, good question. No, GE had a large gap between the inner and outer tubs because the Filter-Flo machines were essentially solid-tub machines that had been converted to a perforated-tub design. The outer tub was stationary and bolted to the cabinet, and the inner tub and transmission were allowed to move and oscillate inside of it, and this was accomplished with a rubber boot between the transmission and outer tub, similar to solid-tub machines of the past. The inner tub is bolted to the top of the transmission hub.

In an off-balance load condition, since GE had no out-of-balance trip mechanism, there was room for the inner tub to swing and oscillate. Even so, most machines have racing stripes knocked out of the outer-tub porcelain due to collisions between the inner basket and outer tub that happened before the owner (if even present) could race to the rescue of the machine.

This is why, as you noted, there's such a huge gap of unutilized space between the inner and outer tub.
 
First spin on 62 GE

Hey Robert,
does this model have the pause during the first spin like the solid tub filter flos or does it have a spray rinse instead?
 
S W E E T !!!

WOW! Robert and Fred You hit the vintage washer lotto. OMG , Does it still have the " New Washer Smell" Enjoy you guys !!!!

Mike
 
does this model have the pause during the first spin...?

I can answer this: No, it does not pause during the first spin and it does have a decent-to-generous spray rinse during that interval.

 

Tom Turbomatic, I think, gave the definitive and very thorough answer as to why the solid tub FF's did have a pause during the first spin that had to do with a complicated cam arrangement on the timer. It was very satisfying to read because, after 45 years I remembered that odd pause that seemed to occur for no reason whatsoever in our beautiful "gold" and white 1960( the Golden Anniversary Year) FF. Our 1962 FF just spun and sprayed away. You might try to find it using his name and some reference to GE and/or Filter-Flo solid tub pauses in the Searchalator.

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spin pause vs. spray rinse

Thanks for clarifying it. Looks like the spray rinse was added with the perforated tub and the pause was on the solid tub models. The 59 I grew up with was a solid tub and had the pause in the first spin both on the normal cycle and the red-lettered short cycle.
 
Our 1956 non-FF GE had the spin pause.  I vaguely remember the manual saying something about pausing for someting like suds kill???
 
Must check out the timer on my '56 and see.

Jon, you mean you don't have this machine connected and in use occassionally and not know that little tidbit?  Ours didn't quite empty out all the water when it paused, it coassted down to a stop and still had a little bit of water in it at the bottom.  Maybe it had something to do with sediment settling and the ejector tube, if GE had one.
 
Our 59 was the same way. It paused and coasted to a stop just short of reving up to full speed so there was a little water left in the tub. Then it would start up again just short of coming to a full stop. I vaguely remember reading something in the owner's manual about the pause having something to do with a suds kill.
 
To clarify:

What Tom said was:

 

"While the pause was to help kill suds, it had to be there because from the start of Activation up until that point, the motor circuit ran through the water level switch in the collector basin in the outer tub. After all of the water was pumped out of the basin, it caused the switch to reset and the machine to stop, then the rest of the spin was directly between the timer contacts and the motor."

 

My faulty memory circuitry has many pauses as well . I was wrong about the cam; I meant the spin cycle contacts. Odd arrangement. Also, now that we've been talking about this I seem to remember that there WAS, in fact, a spray rinse on our 1960 Solid Tub Filter-Flo. I think it occurred right before the pause.

 

Also, Gansky might be able to help out on this one, the original fill flume on my 1957 TOL Filter-flo has an odd slit-shaped outlet on the bottom (there's one on the top of some for the rinse dispenser water) that looks like it diverts some of the spray water directly into the outer tub; I assume that's also to prevent Suds Lock? They also had a small metal plate in the back of the flume to direct water above and below to service those outlets. That old Lexan flume is a wonderful piece of engineering compared to later rubber flumes pictured above in the V-12's. Pity they break so easily if one takes the top off of the washer carelessly.

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WOW.

Nothing like having a CHOICE whether to deflower a virgin or not.

VERY IMPRESSIVE!

Imagine renting that for a film where delivery of a new machine is part of the plot.....
 
GE Solid Tub

It makes me wonder how much of these early perf tub machines were still using hold-overs from the solid tub design. If the timer was the same, could the possibility be there that it could also be a timed fill rinse? Odd indeed.

-Tim
 
Yes GE never produced a timed-fill machine, all solid and perforated tub GE washers had a way of determining the correct water level as early as 1947.
 
Interesting

I did not know this, but I'm not familiar with the old GE's at all (but learning). I wonder why so many companies stayed on the timed fill bandwagon instead of offering true flexibility of water levels?

-Tim
 
V12

Congrats to you on this rare find. If you ever decide to make a wash video like you did two years ago with the Montgomery Ward washer. Only using this GE V12 model. I would buy two copies. To show how much I appreciate GE washers. Please consider making a wash video to purchase showing this GE V12 model.
 
Any virgins in the house?

A time capsule that could not be in better hands. I hope the seller realizes who made the purchase. Congrats to you & Fred.
 
\GASP//

How have you ever managed to hold out for so long without running it?

I surly would have run it though a water only test by now...

Malcolm
 

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