I forgot to add
I don't scrape or rinse the dishes, I turn the plate upside down over a sink with a disposal, what falls down will get rinsed down the thing, and what sticks to the dish goes in the washer. I even run stainless skillets through with the cooked on stuff on it. I will not own or use a dishwasher that can't handle this type of use, I feel pr-rinsing is a waste of time and water, and I just simply refuse to have any part of it. The dishwasher definitely does NOT get nasty or smell bad, and the dishes come out spotless. I also always use the pots and pans cycle, have been disappointed with normal in the past. I'll sometimes use cascade gel, the non-bleach stuff, in the pre-wash if there's a lot of starchy or very oily residues. If someone runs the dishes with only the gel in both washes, the dishes come out smelling like dog slobber...