The GE HydroWave: One of the worst washers ever

[Chetlaham]

Also, the later VMW’s with load size option (like the WTW4800BQ) had a transducer.

Yup, sadly the manual control went away. I do not trust auto fill even if is engineered around submerging garments. I choose the water level. There is not greater machine or system in determining water level than the human brain unless there is life more intelligent than us out there.

 

[whirlpool862]

Stupid or perhaps deliberate. They don't want people washing clothes in water and will do anything to discourage even going as far as deliberately flooding your home. I don't understand where the rabid, morbid insatiable appetite to control people and their lives come from.

Like seriously, you already met the energy mandates by defaulting to cold water and misting the clothes into a wet nap state. Why would it bother you if I in the privacy of my own home took a hose with 150*F water and filled my impeller washer to the top? So that I can actually get good wash results without fabric damage? Like what transpired at GE that they had to go to that length of making an unusable washer?

GE probably used the WORST design they’ve ever seen, their pressure switch location was beyond stupid. It was a disaster waiting to happen, even back when I knew nothing about washing machines I knew not to get a GE.

I can fill my impeller washer to the top, even tho mine doesn’t have deep fill. I can just put it on bulky and it’ll fill it all the way, I use that cycle for bedding (like it’s intended to be used).

People often complain “my HE washer isn’t getting my comforter clean), well, you do NOT wash comforters on the normal cycle on H.E. machines, always use the bulky cycle. You need full water to clean a comforter!

Unfortunately, many people think Normal cycle is for everything, when it’s only really meant for clothing, everyday wear, light to medium soils, and maybe towels. But, it’s not for blankets, rugs, or comforters.

 

[Chetlaham]

I bet the washer had repairs before he got it unless it was a very low 1 person use machine.

It was okay. The tub was massive but agitation was harsh IMO and no spray rinse during the first spin cycle, which doesn't meet my expectations. I know most top loader washers are like this, Whirlpool DD's have been like this since the 80's unless it's an Ultra Wash model.

I remember they had Model Ts with no spin sprays at all. Not in the first or last spin.


BTW, I absolutely hated having the spray in the last spin. I remember once putting some damp rags in the washer to spin out on the final spin symbol only to find they came out wetter before they were put in. This was before I knew a whole lot about the different washer cycles. IIRC, and I could be wrong here if my memory is off, but Kenmore would skip the spray rinses when manually set to a spin only cycle.

 

[whirlpool862]

I remember they had Model Ts with no spin sprays at all. Not in the first or last spin.


BTW, I absolutely hated having the spray in the last spin. I remember once putting some damp rags in the washer to spin out on the final spin symbol only to find they came out wetter before they were put in. This was before I knew a whole lot about the different washer cycles. IIRC, and I could be wrong here if my memory is off, but Kenmore would skip the spray rinses when manually set to a spin only cycle.

I don’t think having no spray impacts the washer rinsing performance really as long as it does a full proper tub rinse rather than a “spray rinse”.

The electronically controlled Model-T’s did have a spray, none of the HydroWaves had one. Although, a spray does kill suds.

 

[Chetlaham]

GE probably used the WORST design they’ve ever seen, their pressure switch location was beyond stupid. It was a disaster waiting to happen, even back when I knew nothing about washing machines I knew not to get a GE.

I can fill my impeller washer to the top, even tho mine doesn’t have deep fill. I can just put it on bulky and it’ll fill it all the way, I use that cycle for bedding (like it’s intended to be used).

People often complain “my HE washer isn’t getting my comforter clean), well, you do NOT wash comforters on the normal cycle on H.E. machines, always use the bulky cycle. You need full water to clean a comforter!

Unfortunately, many people think Normal cycle is for everything, when it’s only really meant for clothing, everyday wear, light to medium soils, and maybe towels. But, it’s not for blankets, rugs, or comforters.

All cycles should default to having water above the garments, not underneath them. But again, we are bound to corrupt energy regulations.

 

[Chetlaham]

I don’t think having no spray impacts the washer rinsing performance really as long as it it does a full proper tub rinse rather than a “spray rinse”.

Spray rinsing forces clean water through the clothes while blasting away soap, scum, particles and debris.

In fact I have found that spray rinsing alone when equal to half a tub of deep rinse water produces equal if not better results. I think washers should have just skipped deep rinsing and done a series of spray rinses and left it at that.

 

[whirlpool862]

All cycles should default to having water above the garments, not underneath them. But again, we are bound to corrupt energy regulations.

And people should understand that normal is NOT for everything on newer machines. Other cycles exist for everything.

I agree on this, and in that one Whirlpool video a woman said “your clothes may have a few dry spots from a high speed spin cycle”. It’s not because it’s spinning out so fast, it’s because they haven’t been completely wet. VMW’s don’t even spin that fast, 800 RPM is the highest speed I’ve seen. I have a very similar VMW tho, my washer fills just around the clothes, it’s a low water washer, I knew nothing about washers when I got it, but I still heard washers and I now identify what the issue was for the ones I’ve seen previously.

Dry spots on clothes after wash means your clothes did NOT get fully wet, not due to an extreme spin speed.

 

[Chetlaham]

And people should understand that normal is NOT for everything on newer machines. Other cycles exist for everything.

I agree on this, and in that one Whirlpool video a woman said “your clothes may have a few dry spots from a high speed spin cycle”. It’s not because it’s spinning out so fast, it’s because they haven’t been completely wet. VMW’s don’t even spin that fast, 800 RPM is the highest speed I’ve seen.

And that is the outcome of the mental manipulation people have been subjected to. Instead if seeing reality for what it is, that their clothes are literally not touching water, they attribute it to some benign, liberal, caring, for your own good force. People sadly are like prey and a hawk- they see the hawk and think 'oh, an angel is coming to spread its love'

 

[whirlpool862]

Spray rinsing forces clean water through the clothes while blasting away soap, scum, particles and debris.

In fact I have found that spray rinsing alone when equal to half a tub of deep rinse water produces equal if not better results. I think washers should have just skipped deep rinsing and done a series of spray rinses and left it at that.

I don’t think spray rinsing is that bad, although deep rinse is better on some things. I like spray rinse is more gentle on the clothes, like I think that should be the rinsing method on delicate cycles. I still prefer deep rinse, I think it rinses better. I don’t think deep rinse should be used on delicate cycles.

Spray rinsing is more efficient as well, it’s similar to how taking a shower is more efficient than taking a bath.

I often use the extra rinse on my Whirlpool to get as much suds out. My machine does one deep rinse and one spray rinse when fabric softener is on, when it’s off it only does a spray rinse.

The GE Profiles have the worst rinse cycle I’ve seen, all it does is drain and then fill back up, it doesn’t even spin. That will not get the clothes rinsed out well.

 

[Chetlaham]

I don’t think spray rinsing is that bad, although deep rinse is better on some things. I like spray rinse is more gentle on the clothes, like I think that should be the rinsing method on delicate cycles. I still prefer deep rinse, I think it rinses better. I don’t think deep rinse should be used on delicate cycles.

Spray rinsing is more efficient as well, it’s similar to how taking a shower is more efficient than taking a bath.

I often use the extra rinse on my Whirlpool to get as much suds out. My machine does one deep rinse and one spray rinse when fabric softener is on, when it’s off it only does a spray rinse.

Perhaps. But if it can save water and produce better results, why not? But I do agree some things like bulky items might indeed do better in a deep rinse.

Of course the way modern machines do it totally gives spray rinsing a bad name.

 

[whirlpool862]

Perhaps. But if it can save water and produce better results, why not? But I do agree some things like bulky items might indeed do better in a deep rinse.

Of course the way modern machines do it totally gives spray rinsing a bad name.

Watch this YouTube video of this washing machine “rinsing”:

Probably the worst rinse cycle I’ve ever seen in my life.

 

[maytag85]

I bet the washer had repairs before he got it unless it was a very low 1 person use machine.

It was okay. The tub was massive but agitation was harsh IMO and no spray rinse during the first spin cycle, which doesn't meet my expectations. I know most top loader washers are like this, Whirlpool DD's have been like this since the 80's unless it's an Ultra Wash model.

This why I’m partial to the belt drive design, get a grand total of 8 spray rinses which helps rinse things out better. Does an even better job on the Super Wash with the partial drain.

 

[phillymatt53]

Stupid or perhaps deliberate. They don't want people washing clothes in water and will do anything to discourage even going as far as deliberately flooding your home. I don't understand where the rabid, morbid insatiable appetite to control people and their lives come from.

Like seriously, you already met the energy mandates by defaulting to cold water and misting the clothes into a wet nap state. Why would it bother you if I in the privacy of my own home took a hose with 150*F water and filled my impeller washer to the top? So that I can actually get good wash results without fabric damage? Like what transpired at GE that they had to go to that length of making an unusable washer?

Control, Manipulation, Incremental Suggestive Training, Pushing that "Herd Mentality"

Just like the "Download The App!", QR Codes, are used to rope humans into living by Technology.
Oh but wait!...... it's just more "Convenient!"..... Better!

 

[Chetlaham]

Control, Manipulation, Incremental Suggestive Training, Pushing that "Herd Mentality"

Just like the "Download The App!", QR Codes, are used to rope humans into living by Technology.
Oh but wait!...... it's just more "Convenient!"..... Better!

Those who see it for what it is find a way around it, and those designing the matrix then find a way to thwart those who bypass it. In the end all are left to submit with no way out.