John's dribble, pt II
John continues his delusional denials of his improper communications on this site, he frequently misrepresents the facts through exaggerations, false generalizations, and sadly sonetines through his outright lies. Why? All to support what appears to be an adult neurosis about Whirlpool appliances and a few of his other favorites brandsm Read above, where he tells a member what he did or did not hear. Just because he mentioned that another dishwasher sounds like a Whirlpool. Lol
Look at the lies he has told, and continues to. He indicates you can't place a pot or pan in the lower rack of a GE tower wash as it will block water to the top and objects in the corners will not get clean.
He forgets how many members have GE tower washes, and hiw they are were one of the top selling dishwashers in the U.S when they were in production...fir well over fifty years. Yet not one person has ever agreed with John. We have numerous members, who I am sure wash pots and pans in their GE tower wash, as do virtually all owners of GE tower wash dishwashers.
I have even run two performance tests, which I have published here, with photos, of the performance of a tower wash with corners blocked. Makes no difference in wash ability. All items in the top rack get perfectly clean, even in the corners. GE advertised their tower wash machines as having true random loading, meaning the top rack is washed independently of the bottom rack. GE engineers have greater intellects and design experience than John. His emotional insecurities result in his ego making him think otherwise, and that he knows more than GE engineers, and he definitely thinks he knows more than anyone on this site. Both of his delusions are obviously false.
John doesn't even understand some basic aspects of physics. In one of his attacks sometime back, on GE tower washes, (before he said that pans block the water to the top rack, he stated that tower wash machines couldn't clean the corners on the top rack period.) After pointing out GE tower wash dishwasher had been in production almost six decades, that Consumer Reports would have noticed this defect, ws well the multtuded of homeowners and if course our members,b he changed his life to that they couldn't clean in the corners with the "lower wash arm water being blocked to the upper rack."
As stated he dies not seem to be well versed in some ne aspects of physics. He stated the reason was water from the wash tower "CAN'T CHANGE DIRECTION.". (John use of all caps to emphasize.). I had to explain to him water changes direction all the time within a dishwasher when it is operating...it is called "deflection "
It is so sad a grown adult had to pathologically lie because he has, as mentioned in many if my earlier post, an innate jealously of any dishwasher that gets positive reviews by our members, if it isn't Whirlpool. In fact any appliance, that is not one of John's aroused his ire if it getscq positive mention from a member. A behavior more attuned to a toddler.
It obviously isn't just me, look at the many comments of the many AW members who have mentioned this. John has to denigrate anyone who doesn't agree with his childish adoration of Whirlpool. He also denigrates and verbally attacks anyone who doesn't agree with his opinions in general.
Lefever attempts to make his opinions seem as facts and will lie to do so.
His lies about tower wash cleanability are only one of many.
Look at his whopper about the GE 2800 dishwasher, burning its wires to the control board. I have had multiple 2800's and my parents had one for over a decade, before they moved. Not one ever had even a scorched wire. Had even ine member ever even mentioned burnt wires in their 2800?
His lies about the GE pre-capacitor dishwasher motors are legendary on this site due to John's outlandish jealousy of them. These motors were used for almost thirty years by GE. The motor is the heart of the dishwasher, snd there were many years the GE dishwasher received higher reliability ratings than Whirlpool and Hobart,/KA. They were a tough workhorse of a motor, designed and mated ideally to
the application. GE engineers have much more intellect than John, and the results show what a well designed, long lasting motor GE created for their dishwashers
In my over 50 years if owning, testing, GE tower washes, I never had one pre-PSC motor fail. Look at all the members here who have and even now owe them. Has even one ever mentioned a pre-capacitor motor failure? John forget whinhe us dealing with on this site. They can verify his falsification scans exaggerations as lies.
John didn't even know GE produced a dishwasher with a porcelain tub. He stayed with his usual childish caps "GE NEVER made a dishwasher with a porcelain tub.". I had to post a specification chart for a GE Appliance catsligvshdbprive hom wrong on that one, too.
John doesn't even know how to properly install a KA/Hobart/Viking disposal, as a member pointed out from one of his photos of his unit.
Lefever claims that not one member in this site ysejss a pre capacitor motor as a "daily driver." Has he personally surveyed every single member in this site, or is this just another unsubstantiated opinion by John designed to reinforce his bias and lies.
John is big in attacking and denigrating others in this site. Now he wants to take over the site. He denied this, until I posted his quote saying he is talking to Robert about it. He wants to censor anyone who doesn't agree with him.
Lefever has been argumentative, insulting, and degrading to anyone who disagree mswith him on this site and has been doing this for years. Our members are tired of him thinking he is the ultimate opinion and ultimate voice on this site. They are tired of their opinions being denigrated by John, just to boost his ego.
Several members have sent me messages about their gratitude for standing up to John and have lamented over his treatment of them. I will continue to call John out on his lack of respect for our members.
John does have some experience, but this means nothing when he exaggerates and falsifies information to reinforce his biases. I cannot psychoanalyze John to determine if he has insecurities that must resolves by bullying, harassing and denigrating other members.
Possibly he feels inferior as being just an appliance repair man (which he certainly shouldn't), but out society often looks down on those in the trades, which is sad. We need more people in the trades and we should value them. John has found a site where being dn appliance repairman has potential value, and he abuseds it to bolster his ego by denigrating others, just as he himself has been denigrated. Returning a wrong for a wrong is not something an adult does. If you have to hurt others to make ine better about oneself, then we have an issue of lack of character.
Read some of John's reviews for his repair establishment. It is pointed out that John is an "angry" man and there are other negativities expressed.
I have nothing personal against John, but I do put my foot down on his hurting and degrading others to make himself look good. His exaggerations, lies and generalizations are unacceptable. Other members need not be afraid to do the same.
It seems virtually all internet sites these days have at leasr one, if not multiple individuals who have to build their ego by hurting others. Most of the time it is a lack of emotional maturation coupled with insecurities. When their opinions/lies are question they can't handle it and go into a frightful fit,nas does a child.
These individuals need to be called out on their behavior and it needs to be changed. If they do not have the intellect to override their emotions or their emotional maturation to handle differing opinions, and refuse to change, they should go elsewhere. A neurosis, such as one thinking everyone must have the same favorite appliances as they do are not easy to deal with. However, if they are causing conflict on site they must be addressed. We are not here to solve someone's emotional and/or maturation issues. We are here to share and learn from each other.
There are members who are reticent to make given posts or state their opinions, because of of John Lefever's verbal attacks on them. That is not right. It is also not right to manufacturer lies to support one's opinionm
This is a unique and wonderful site. We have members who gave phenomenal engineering skills, extensive experience with vintage appliances , both in repair, rebuild and usage. Our collective knowledge and experience is staggering. I learn wonderful things from this site, everyday and think the world of our many diversified members. I, and I think most of us, want a site where everyone is free to contribute and one does not have to fear expressing their opinion.
We have one of the best sites and the best of people of any site in the internetm. Let's keep it this way and share and learn from each and foster each other's right to share openly without fear.
