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he needs to learn to multi-task....

Who said I wasn't??? :-)

Actually, we loaned him a pair of shorts to swim in. Rich asked him what size and he said 36. Well, Rich found a pair of 32-34! Mike said they were the tightest shorts he'd had on in a long time!

I know about the black FTLs because of the waistband always sticking out!

And no pix of him today. I'm told he was feelin' a little green this morning so the rest of the crew came w/o him. I will try to remember to set the camera up in the flower room near the pool next time, Yogi!!!

Chuck

Chuck
 
Make sure they put flashing on 3 sides of the chimmney; if n

Thanks, Gary, but they actually have to flash all 4 sides! Since it comes up through the ridge there's no cricket!

Chuck
 
We went to an amusement park one time and my BF wore black briefs under white denim, when he got off the water rides, suprisingly they showed thru....I stayed back and watched as all the guys and gals made eye candy at him, from the front and back....and I'm the lucky one!
 
Well, Rich found a pair of 32-34!

Hey Chuck, Now who wears a 32-34 in your household???? lol

Or.....Was it when you guys were teenagers? (Ducks and Runs)

lol

Could not resist.
 
On a VERY unfortunate note...

We had a hell of the thunderstorm here yesterday. First wave came in early afternoon, then another came in and lasted until about 3:45. Had we not been home, we'd have been in deep sh*t! The rain was coming down so hard and so fast that we had to use snow shovels to keep pushing it away from the back door and out to the sitting area where it could partially drain into the driveway. Twice, it was so bad it took the two of us. We did get some in the back door, but it was kept at bay for the most part. The lower level would have flooded had we not checked and found what was happening.

But then we thought about the roof/chimney. We were assured that when they leave for the day, everything's water-tight. I did tell them on the first day they were here that once they un-tarp the chimney, they'd need to finish it that day or tarp it again. I was assured it wasn't necessary as they always leave the job water-safe, even if 100 days of sun are projected.

Yes, we had water come in. Same as the problem we had back in November, which was 1/2 the reason this job is being done! The same area of the cathedral was damaged, more, and the damage now travelled all the way down it to the front door! AND, the bed was a soggy mess! Water was coming right through the mahogany ceiling and ceiling light!

Needless to say, the contractor was called as soon as I could take a short break from bailing. 3 of his guys came over and tarped the chimney in the pouring rain, complete with thunder and lightning. I almost told them not to go up, but they wanted to get it done and quickly. The rain stopped about 1/2 an hour later, and the owner showed up, shaking his head. The long and short of it is that their insurance carrier has already opened a claim, and I should hear from their adjuster a little later this afternoon. A ServiceMaster manager will be here between 3 and 4 today to decide what they need to do to mitigate mold/mildew in the meantime.

Pictures and video have been taken.

What a mess. On a slightly happy note, no appliances were harmed other than a couple of soggy box bottoms that have since been dried out.

I'm sure the fun has just begun!

Chuck
 
What a shame. SO much of this happens when construction is being done in the house. My cousin had a similiar problem a few years ago when he did an addition. They opened the roof, did not have the tarp on right, the rain came, washed down the stair way walls,ruined the wall, also the closet wall in his daughters bedroom, and the wood parquet floor in the foyer. I am beginning to think that most of these contruction workers, either roofers, etc. are just very careless.

Fortunately, I did not have any of this, but, wait.....my back family room is an addition which has a low slope roof, and I told them another roofer which I consulted with told me when I put on a new roof that it should be a special rubberized roof to match the main roof. They said, NO, that would not be necessary since they were going to cover the whole roof with rain and ice shield. Well....the snow and ice came, and low and behold.......the roof leaked by the bay window. Luckily, the new window treatments did not get ruined, but my contractor said he was insured. Big deal. Just the thought of having to reorder the cornices etc, would be a PIA. So....in June, they had to rip off the roof only on the family room addition, and put on a rubberized rolled roof. This seems to have elevatged the leak. Now look at the extra money for material and labor that the roofer had to absorb. These guys think they know everything.

I am sure your roofer will make good for all of this, but it is the mess and incovenience for both you and Rich. And sometimes things is the house including that ceiling could not be replaced.

I just had a carpenter that did good work, but was a bull in a china shop. He was doing some re-chaulking that the sideing people missed, and must have roughly positioned the aluminum extension ladder on the house, and badly scraped the 1 year old powder coated railings. He never mentioned it, but when I confronted him, he said, "Oh, I thought they were iron and could be touched up". (They cannot be touched up). Of course, my contractor had to make good for the railing being taken out and fixed, and re- powder coated and the price of 350.00.
 
Chuck I feel for you and Rich. We had the same thing happen to our house in 1985 in New Orleans about this time of year. Roof being replaced due to hail damage and as lots or the holes were through the shingles and felt they removed everything. A storm came up and rain hard for 30 minutes. Water came through everything down the alls etc. Within another 30 minutes ceilings were falling in on everything. The insurance had to put us up for 9 weeks in a hotel while the house was gutted and redone. It even ruined our furnace.

I really feel sorry for you two.

If that wet make sure the exterior walls in side if insulated are checked. All ours had to be removed due to the insulation being wet. The fiber glass insulation that fell from the ceilings got in closets and clothes just all over.

If really wet and damp make insurance pay for a hotel for you to stay in.
 
I will have pics to post here of the kitchen and deck and h

How about one of our hall ceiling? The pic is after the ceiling sat for the night. Follow the link for the video. This was taken after some of the dripping had subsided.

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And the bedroom after most of the dripping had stopped. I was not about to take video while we were trying to keep water from coming in the back door!!!

Chuck

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I would have been FURIOUS!!!!! They should never leave a house not watertight, especially in the summer with storms that pop up all the time. Your home is lovely by the way!
 
OH MY!!
My heart goes out to you guys, such a beautiful home and so much damage from a supposed to be a new roof to protect your home and possessions. I know these problems too well myself with construction of our new home and the contractor not tightening up things and water came in major. I know the name of a great mold remediator if the need comes up. I had to have black mold removed from the new house. You have no idea what you are going to go through with this. I can't say enough how sorry I am for this happening to you 2 great guys.
Jon
 
My wife said in addition to what I said is to be sure and take pictures of every room walls, ceiling and floors along with all the furniture as they are now and take out pictures you have of each room as it was. WE both figure some walls and lots of the ceiling will have to go as your insulation will be bad and ruined.

Like Jon our hearts go out to you two great guys.

Charles
 
Thank you all for your support, ...

...kind words, and advice. It's all being stored and will be considered as needed!!

Rich and I just finished emptying out most of the hallway where the cathedral ceiling is, and we'll take care of the rest tomorrow. The ServiceMaster manager suggested requesting a moving company, but it's easier, faster, and more secure to do it ourselves. It's not like we're moving marble statues (oh, wait, I DID move a couple of those! Ouch!!!).

He whom I now refer to as the SOB (the insurance agent for the contractor) didn't call me back this afternoon, though I called the office no less than 4 times between 4 and 4:55 pm since they close at 5. First I was told he should be back about 4:45, and finally I was told he wasn't expected back at all, but my message would be passed on when he checked in. It's after 10pm now... I ain't gettin' a call! DUH.

What they don't realize is that this doesn't make Donga happy. I started in super-nice mode when I spoke with the agent earlier. Now, the best he'll get is "buisness-pleasant-with-maybe-a-touch-of-schmooze-thrown-in." I will get the number for the actual insurance company tomorrow, and deal with them directly. I don't suffer bad salesmen, bad representatives, or bad-anything else well. As far as I'm concerned, he's not interested in helping me. Therefore, I don't have time to deal with him! I'm not going to bare fangs yet, because he doesn't represent the insurance company itself. However, I will reserve the right to bare fangs if necessary in the future!!! Since we're currently sleeping on an air mattress downstairs, I think I have a case!!! Oh, and YES, I will be investigating hotel accomodations as needed once I reach the insurance adjuster!

Seriously, we're both approaching this logically, realistically, and pragmatically. It still sucks, but we have to deal with it. We will be amicable when possible, but have to protect our investment (house) and health (mold?)!

AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (that felt good!)

Chuck
p.s. there are others in our immediate area who suffered worse losses than us, but we have to look out for our best interests! There ARE times that you have to look out for #1 (or #s 1 and 2 as it may be).
 
WE both figure some walls and lots of the ceiling will have

Oh, Charles, you're both right. ServiceMaster came in and, basically, the whole cathedral ceiling is a total loss. As far as the bedroom, since it's mahogany over wall board, they need to take it down to dry out everything. What we're initially thinking is to have the ins co bring in a master woodsmith to remove and label the wood, so it can be put back after the other work is done. If they don't agree, and their wooder doesn't match the rest of the room, you better believe I'll be on them like stink on sh*t! I'll be attempting pre-emptive considerations, but I don't know how open they'll be to that yet since I haven't yet been able to speak with the adjuster.

Please, everyone, keep your fingers crossed and, if so inclined, say a little prayer. We both figure this is Rich's grandfather's warped sense of humor being thrust upon us, and he's apparently got a little too much power right now!

Chuck
 
Well, you could ask the crew to come back and take it out "in trade"... lol...

Seriously, someone was quite negligent in not tarping up the chimney again. Kind of amazing that much water could come through just around a chimney, but there you have it.

I once worked for a company where I was their budding network manager. The "server room" was really a utility closet, and my "office" was about the same size off that. During the rainy season the company hired their usual flunky contractor to do some roof work. I came in one rainy morning after a heavy downpour to find two inches of water on the floor and sheets of water flowing down the face of an electrical breaker box right beside the desk where the server was positioned. I turned it all off, told my boss I was going home and wouldn't come back until they fixed the roof and mopped up the rooms.

Those were the days :-). Luckily no equipment was damaged and nobody got electrocuted. When I spoke to the contractor a week or two later he just gave me a blank look... I guess he'd already been chewed out fairly thoroughly so I didn't add to the merriment.
 

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