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A typical projector system. This one originally had built-in mono sound (the panel at the top of the console) but that part is no longer used. Instead, this screen now has a separate center/surround/subwoofer sound system.

Screen #1 has seven-channel digital sound (left, center, right, subwoofer, left surround, right surround, rear surround) based around a DTS 6AD Cinema Processor. These are the power amplifiers. The sound runs on CDs that are sync'd with the film by a control track that is read optically by a digital reader mounted on top of the projector.

As a backup for the digital sound, all films still have the traditional four-channel analog soundtrack, which is also read optically by an analog reader soundhead mounted beneath the projector. Digital sound effectively comes after the picture (the frame being projected is IN the projector, the digital sound code is on top ABOVE the projector), while analog sound is ahead of the picture (the frame is in the projector, the sound code is below it).

Screen #3 has six-channel digital sound based around an older DTS processor. DTS Processors are basically a PC customized to follow the film's sync code for running the (SCSI) CD drives and outputting the sound signal. I think the original released model was a 16 MHz 386-SX computer. They're much more powerful nowadays.

The projector light source is a high-pressure Xenon-filled arc lamp. The lamphouses are 3-phase with an AC-to-DC power rectifier to run the bulb. Typical bulb life is around 2000 hrs of running time. They sometimes explode if they get unstable or are pushed too far beyond reasonable/safe operating time. Bulb explosions cause damage to the mirrors and reflectors inside the lamphouse.

Film runs from outboard platters external to the projector. Films are still shipped on 2000'-capacity reels, which hold 20 minutes of film in running time. A 2-hr movie is six reels. The individual reels are loaded onto the platter when the film arrives, spliced end-to-end. Each reel includes a "head" and "tail" that identifies the reel number so they're assembled in proper order. The platter works somewhat like an 8-track tape, feeding from the middle of one disc and wrapping around the take-up ring on another. Each disc can be used for either feed-out or take-up, so the film is simply run back and forth from one disc to another. There are 3 discs so as to leave one available for making-up the next film when it arrives, or for running two films on one screen for a double- or split-feature.

This view shows another platter with the top disc for take-up and middle for feed-out. The blue table in the background is used to load the individual reels onto the platter, or to unload them when the film is ready to ship out. When loading ONTO the platter, the reel free-spins on the table and the platter pulls the film. When unloading, the platter disc is disengaged from its drive motor and the table pulls the film off onto the reel.

Here's another view. The film runs through a swing-arm in the center of the feed-out disc that controls the platter drive motor so it keeps up with how fast the projector is pulling the film through. There is NO direct tension on the film on the feed-out side. On front of the platter support post there's a carriage that rides up-down (and provides take-up tension) and is mechanically attached to a variac (speed controller) beneath the lower disc, which sync's the take-up speed with the projector. Thus, the film itself controls the platter. The platter and projector are not electrically connected to each other.
 
Glenn, did you ever get any pictures of the popcorn machines? My BIL worked at Showcase Cinema and they actually had a separate room where they did nothing but make popcorn for the concessation stand. I notice a duct like a dryer vent coming from the top of the projector, is that to send heat outside?
 
Glenn: Thanks for the "Photo tour" of your theater booth.I love seeing theatre equipment,and radio-tv station equipment.I guess I am into "Mass entertainement" appliances!Very breifly I dealt with 16MM projecttors that were used in a TV station-very occasionally a program was sent on 16MM film.Their projectors ran standard Reel-Reeel-one projector was a Kodak "Pagent" modified for TV use-the other was a Bell and Howell-both could be considered modified "classroom" or portable projectors-for television 35MM projectors can be found as well.Brenkart or Simplex.They two are modified for television use-24FPS to 30-for television The rule was -"everyother frame shown twice"In outward appearnce the TV projector looked much like a theater one.The Geneva mechanism was diffrent and the shutter mechanism was diffrent-they projected into a specially modified studio camera head.The mono audio was taken from the projector much like your theater-intead of into an amp and speakers went into the station audio switcher system so it could be routed to the aural transmitter.Nowadays its hard to find a "film island" in a TV station.But could they make a comeback with digital HD TV?Film is already an HD medium.The multichannel sound could be routed to the inputs of the HD transmitter.At home I have a 35MM portable Holmes model 8 projector-It was made in 1939.The Holmes also made them for cinema use-used a carbon arc lamphouse and a lower reel arm.And their theater projectors had an induction motor to drive it instead of the regulated AC-DC motor the portable ones had.The protable Holmes has a front mounted reel takeup arm.mine has a Simplex upper reel housing(supply)I have a box of movie trailers(came with the projector)and two 1 reel movies."Parachute Jumping" and one reel from "Charlie" the lonesome Couger"Need to get a sound head amp for it-has the phototube soundhead photocell.The Holmes projector "packages" had the projector,a speaker,and the amplifier.Mine is just the projector only-It runs beautifully.It has a 1000W incandescent lamphouse.

http://www.film-center.com/holmes.html
 
Very cool and thanks for sharing! I've always wondered what a theater looked like "behind-the-scenes"...interesting!
 
Jason-I can agree-Film has better resolution than any Digital medium.Thats a good reason it can be a good program source for HDTV and BluRay and HD-DVD's- actually 35MM film serves as a source for regular DVD's,VHS tapes and lazerdiscs.A device called a "Telecine" is used instead of the "film island" that was used in TV stations. Telecines can have a higher resolution (usually CCD) image device than the camera used in film islands.The image from the film is very close to the imager device and no prisms or mirrors in its way like the TV film island.The mirror or prism was used to "switch" between the optical sources-IE-film projectors or the slide projectors so the devices could be used with one camera.Also the apeture would be difficult or impossible with the film chain-Ie "widescreen" or standard.The telecine has a lower wattage light source-new ones use LED's to shine thru the film to the imager-less heat distortion to the film-and the film transport is simpler.In outward appearence modern telecines look like a large reel-reel video tape recorder.The device doesn't look like a standard film projector.
 
Interesting.

So how does a telecine actually convert the 24fps of film to the 29.9fps of television?

Do progressive scan DVD's drop the fps to 24? Is that what 3:2 pulldown does?
 
I do know one thing. When I switched my Panasonic DVD recorder to Progressive scan (480p), the picture got brighter and much clearer. The TV is HD so it upconverts it automatically within the set.
 
Yes,the telecine converts the 24FPS to 30FPS-does it electronically.For the progressive scan DVD-no the FPS isn't converted to 24FPS-3:2 pulldown is the conversion system.
Drive in theaters-yes do miss them-remember them as a "staple" means of entertainment in college days-was cheap-before the days of VCR'sWe could go to the drive in and watch all night movies for just a few dollars per carload.I would think today they could be revived-and possibly broadcast the digital soundtracks to cars equipped with IBOC FM receivers(Digital "HD radio")with the sound systems in cars today-esp the subwoofers-imagine being at the drive in and listening to multichannel sound and hearing and feeling the explosions!Wouldn't think it would be that difficult-some drive in theaters were broadcasting to FM to the radios in cars.The FCC allows it-the theater can use a transmitter system with enough power to cover the theater lot.
 
Yes Rex! I have thought the same thing for a long time. I did go to a drive in as recently as 1999. I saw Star Wars Episode II with my family at the Cinderella Twin Drive In in Englewood, Colorado. Could you just imagine if the old drive in met up with today's technology? Like Bose weatherproof speakers, WOW! The concession stand could even have an espresso bar.
 
Yes,In the midwest and West DI theaters did very well-but in the Eastern part of the country-hardtop theaters were better-becuase of the bugs and humid nights-could make watching movies uncomfortable.The theater I used in the college days was in South Dakota-During the Spring,summer and part of the fall-it was pleasent at night there-low humidity and little or no bugs.The UV light emitted by the projection lamp was a beacon to the bugs---"Humans Here" come get 'em guys!Carbon arcs or Xenon lights are rich in UV light that bugs can see from a long way off.Despite that the DI's were just plain fun.We all know some of the folks there weren't watching the movies-other persuits!On the concessions-miss the Jaw Breakers,Atomic Fireballs,Neccho wafers,Life Savers.And of course-DI Hot Dogs-the best!!and a cheap meal while watching the movies.Now all of the cool "Ozoners" are just condo houses and shopping centers.Sounds like there are a few surviving DI cinemas in the Midwest and West areas of the country-did vaguely remember one in the Cocoa Beach area of Florida-used it as a Kid-remember some sort of incense burner or something you got from the concession stand that you burned near your car-was shaped in a coil like a Calrod stove burner and generated fumes that were unpleasent to the bugs and sort of for the people too-but you could watch the movie without being devoured by the bugs.Most of the moviues I watched at those times were the James Bond movies-and westerns.The florida one ran lots of the "horse opras"Were fun to watch.john Wayne westerns at the DI all night fun!
 
Film platter

Actually an amazing device-allowed theaters to have only one projector per booth instead of two required for running "reel-to-reel" or "out of the can"the projectionist no longer had to do "changeovers"like would have been done in the days before platter film handling devices.The platter was less expensive for the moivehouse to buy than another projector.Also the platter could not be used with older nitrate films.could you imagine what would happen if a nitrate film that was wound onto a platter caught fire?That was why older projectors had enclosed film reel magazines and the picture and soundheads were enclosed.The fire could still burn-but less likely to spread-and in older theaters-the fire shutters in the projection ports that could be closed to prevent fire from spreading to the audience area of the auditorium.also the reel housings had "fire traps" to prevent film fires from spreading to the reels.there are firetrap rollers in my Holmes projector.
 
Platters are also used because they allow multiplexes to be built. A single projectionist can handle 20 some screens because changing back & forth between projectors during a show isn't needed, and the film does not need rewinding. With automation systems added to the mix, the projectionist or film tech is a part-time job that is only needed when film is "built up" or "broken down" when new shows arrive, or to do weekly cleaning and P.M. on the projection equipment.

In order to convert a 24 FPS movie into a 30 FPS TV show, additional frames are added to the show. A telecine machine has a 5-bladed shutter. When tranferring a movie, there will be a total of 60 frames shown (remember TV is interlaced, with 2 identical picture fields at 60 FPS one carries half the scan lines, the second carries the other half) When a film is transferred, the 5-blade shutter shows one frame for 2 interlaced fields, and the next one for 3 interlaced fields, the following at 2, and the next following at 3....and so on. There will be a "frame change" every 2 fields, but Every 4th film frame will a "split frame" where one interlaced field is shared with the previous frame. Because the difference between two film frames are relatively small, showing half of one, and half of another in an interlaced field is unperceptable to the viewer unless the pause button is pressed during a fast action scene, and they happen to catch it on one of these split frames. Stop your VHS or DVD, and frame advance, you will see this.

Unfortunatley, I was never able to experience the enjoyment of a drive-in theater here. The two that were here were closed up by the time I was of age to remember them. There used to be a drive in down in Nag's head NC that I remember seeing movies at while I was on vacations back in the 80's. Unfortunatley, that drive-in closed several years ago, and the property has been developed. Drive-in's occupy lots of real-estate, and I imagine that that drive in's property was worth a fortune. That place was pretty great though during the summer. They used an FM radio transmitter to broadcast the soundtrack, but also had the speakers. You guys are right though about the mosquitos and bugs being bad! One time while I was there wit the family, a huge thunderstorm rolled in...sort of reminded me of "twister" when the storm hit while they were at the drive-in.
 
All the talk about frames and FPS and 3:2 pulldown and so forth ... everyone knows that movies are an optical illusion, right? A series of still images flashed on the screen very quickly.

Yes, the lamphouses are power-vented due to the high heat of the Xenon bulb. But even so, they run much cooler than the carbon-arc lamps. Projection duties used to be a hot dirty job.

Yes, I've done repairs on the equipment, changing bearings & belts, adjustments, tweaking sound levels. Don't do much any more except in emergency situations, and changing the Xenon bulbs when needed. Changing the bulbs can be dangerous. A facemask, gloves and vest are supposed to be worn in case of explosion but I've never done so.

I don't have a picture of the popcorn machine but I can get one. It's kind of worn and icky-looking after 22 years.

There's another platter design that runs in a continuous loop without requiring rethreading the projector (technically called "lacing"). Automation cues stop the projector at end of the show, then the operator simply restarts it for the next show. Automation systems typically have remote control panels placed in concession or the manager's office.

I started my "movie career" running carbon-arc lamps and 2000' reels with manual changeovers every 20 mins. Then we got Xenon lamps and 6000' reels for a single changeover in a 2-hr show. Luxury, LOL!

For those who may not know, there are cue marks on the film, at the end of each reel (every 20 mins of running time). The cues are black dots that appear at the upper right corner of the picture. Two sets, each set covers only four frames of film so their appearance is only momentary. If the scene is dark, the dots may be outlined in white to faciliate seeing them. When changeover time approaches, the projectionist stands at the ready, watching. The first cue signals to turn on the projector motor. Seven seconds later (the delay gives time for the projector motor to get up to full speed), the 2nd cue indicates to hit the changeover switch which closes the light and sound on one projector and simultaneously opens it on the other. Changeovers generally occur at the instant of a scene change to help conceal the event. The cue marks aren't needed for platters since there's no projector changeover, but they're still printed on the film. They used to be visible on VHS transfers, but I don't recall seeing them on DVDs, at least not in a long time. DVDs are likely made from digital masters which don't have the marks. Older material transferred from film to DVD may still have them, except in the case of a restoration that may airbrush them out.

Never had the "pleasure" of running nitrate, but I've seen a sample of it burn. Scary. I remember the firetrap rollers in the old Century projector and reel housings. Acetate and polyester film won't burn but it does melt from the light heat/intensity. Projectors have fail-safe sensors on the bottom that trigger if the film breaks or splits. Platters typically are equipped with failsafes on the feedout side. There normally is no tension on the platter feed, so the failsafe there triggers if tension does develop. This is important particularly for polyester film which is designed NOT to break. If the platter feed tangles, the projector would keep pulling and strip its gears, an expensive repair situation.
 
Glenn:Does your theater use the xenon bulbs that are designed so they don't emit UV radiation?the lamphouse venting also vented away the ozone generated from the xenon bulbs that weren't treated to prevent UV-a powerful UV source such as a projection lamp can produce ozone-much like those "ozone" bulbs used in old dryers-the ozone was produced from reaction of the shortwave UV radation with the oxygen in the air.The non UV bulbs have a quartz envelope that has an additve in it to reduce the UV radiation.
I can also remember "ad reels" for TV stations-in earlier times the TV station got commercials recorded on 16MM film-these would be spliced back to back onto a large reel and threaded onto the stations 16MM film island projector."Stop foils" would be placed in the film pack where it was to stop.The projector could be started or stopped remotely-usually from the switcher location.
Yes--I have watched for the "Q" marks on films when watching at a theater.And that could be used as a means of "timing" how long you have been watching and how long the movie lasts.And I have seen these on some DVDs.
On the platter that runs without rethreading-do you have to lubricate the film in some manner so the layers in the film pack will "slide" over each other?In my earlier radio days used to rebuild and rewind tape cartridges for radio station in the chain I worked for.Cart tape was specially lubricated so the tape layers could slide over each other-esp in the center of the pack where the tape was drawn off by the capstan so it could go over the machines heads.When the lubricant slowly wears off from playing-(in the top 40 station-songs were recorded on the carts-they got more than hourly airplay)the tape starts to stetch-and then binds up-you can sometimes hear the carts fail on air.and the tape breaks and winds around the machines capstan.I have heard of endless loop systems used for 8 and 16mm film for museum playback systems.Tape cartridges have been used for this too."Marathon" products in Boyolston, Mass made carts for this purpose-they were very reliable.Used them in radio stations.They also held their "phase" for stereo applications."Q" tones on the cart could even be used to activate functions in the museum display as the cart plays.
 
Another mark on film prints...

I worked as a general assistant in a Cinema/ Movie Theater and we were told every print has an index number thats visible briefly at a certain point in the film. It enables "filmed" pirate videos/dvds to have their source traced.......

Seamus
 
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