Thanks for the close-ups Ms. DeMille! What is the 'Fashion' setting all about?
They're Here! My AEG Set Has Arrived
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"Fashion" is most likely a cycle between wool and delicates. More delicate than delicates but better cleaning than wool.
According To The Manual
Fashion cycle is for items made from man-made fibers such as rayon or Lyocell. Wash temp is set at 40c with a "more gentle wash action than Delicates", but more through cleaning than handwash cycles.
What all that palaver actually means is anyone' guess. LOL
Fashion cycle is for items made from man-made fibers such as rayon or Lyocell. Wash temp is set at 40c with a "more gentle wash action than Delicates", but more through cleaning than handwash cycles.
What all that palaver actually means is anyone' guess. LOL
I'm eager to hear your opinion after a few loads, L. PM me.
Eddy
Eddy
Am Not Feeling The Love ATM - How Do You Level This Thing?
Manual states the rear left foot is spring loaded and should rest firmly on floor. That bit checks out fine. However the other three feet seem to be "loose" or whatever as one cannot screw them up or down to adjust.
Manual states the rear left foot is spring loaded and should rest firmly on floor. That bit checks out fine. However the other three feet seem to be "loose" or whatever as one cannot screw them up or down to adjust.
All Good Things Must Come To An End
To get a better look at what is going on raised the washer on the right side using a heavy case for support. One flashlight view and the source of my leveling woes became clear; the two right side supports (front and rear rear) that the legs screw into are busted. This explains why the things won't screw up or down and feel wobbly and loose.
The left front leg seems fine, and it's support is intact. Same for the left side spring loaded self-leveling leg. Am going to put a call into AEG's tech support tomorrow to see what can be done. Know it is possible to purchase new feet, but the supports may be another matter. After all they are attached somehow to the washer.
Oh well, at least got the drain hose fitted and tested the unit so far as that goes. No leeks and everything works fine. Mine you only allow the unit to fill, run for a bit, then drain. It was mainly to test if the extended hose was joined properly.
Have sent Mr. Burton over at HomeDirect an email to get the damage claim ball rolling, we shall where things go from here.
To get a better look at what is going on raised the washer on the right side using a heavy case for support. One flashlight view and the source of my leveling woes became clear; the two right side supports (front and rear rear) that the legs screw into are busted. This explains why the things won't screw up or down and feel wobbly and loose.
The left front leg seems fine, and it's support is intact. Same for the left side spring loaded self-leveling leg. Am going to put a call into AEG's tech support tomorrow to see what can be done. Know it is possible to purchase new feet, but the supports may be another matter. After all they are attached somehow to the washer.
Oh well, at least got the drain hose fitted and tested the unit so far as that goes. No leeks and everything works fine. Mine you only allow the unit to fill, run for a bit, then drain. It was mainly to test if the extended hose was joined properly.
Have sent Mr. Burton over at HomeDirect an email to get the damage claim ball rolling, we shall where things go from here.
Oh, crap. You just can't depend on shippers to move things the way you would move them yourself.
I'm sure if there's a way of rectifying the damage and getting compensation you'll get to the bottom of it. It's a shame you have to go to all that trouble, though.
I'm sure if there's a way of rectifying the damage and getting compensation you'll get to the bottom of it. It's a shame you have to go to all that trouble, though.
Would love a vid demonstrating the lack af noise....
Ordered parts from AEG Canada and whilst speaking to the service tech he mentioned one of the legs on his unit was busted as well. What did he do? Shoved a square of hard wood underneath the damaged foot and kept on keeping on. Rather shocked a service person would do this but apparently the machine was level, stable and otherwise didn't care. As the saying goes; faint heart never won fair maiden, I mean what has one got to loose?
Have some rather thick decent sized rectangle shaped marble bits from another product lying around so; up went the washer and carefully slid the bits under the damaged legs/corners. Machine is level (according to spirit level)and does not wobble so..... Decided to run a empty "test wash" to at least clean out any built up detergent residue etc...
My thoughts on the AEG?
Compared to Big Berta (Miele W1070) who makes enough loud and strange sounds at times to wake the dead, the AEG is whisper quiet. You only can tell when the pump is engaged by water draining, on the Miele OTHO you *KNOW* that pump is working. Indeed the only sounds one hears is the muted sloshing of water, water entering the machine, etc...
Major difference between Big Berta and Hans der Grosse is during the spin cycle. The latter is almost again whisper quiet, emitting sounds more like one's Pfaff sewing machine motor that what one is used to from the Miele. It appears late or even very late night laundry may be on the cards once more.
Ordered parts from AEG Canada and whilst speaking to the service tech he mentioned one of the legs on his unit was busted as well. What did he do? Shoved a square of hard wood underneath the damaged foot and kept on keeping on. Rather shocked a service person would do this but apparently the machine was level, stable and otherwise didn't care. As the saying goes; faint heart never won fair maiden, I mean what has one got to loose?
Have some rather thick decent sized rectangle shaped marble bits from another product lying around so; up went the washer and carefully slid the bits under the damaged legs/corners. Machine is level (according to spirit level)and does not wobble so..... Decided to run a empty "test wash" to at least clean out any built up detergent residue etc...
My thoughts on the AEG?
Compared to Big Berta (Miele W1070) who makes enough loud and strange sounds at times to wake the dead, the AEG is whisper quiet. You only can tell when the pump is engaged by water draining, on the Miele OTHO you *KNOW* that pump is working. Indeed the only sounds one hears is the muted sloshing of water, water entering the machine, etc...
Major difference between Big Berta and Hans der Grosse is during the spin cycle. The latter is almost again whisper quiet, emitting sounds more like one's Pfaff sewing machine motor that what one is used to from the Miele. It appears late or even very late night laundry may be on the cards once more.
More Damage
Thus far have been concentrating most of my efforts and time on the Lavamat, with the Lavatherm dryer sitting shoved off to the side whilst one sorted out some sort of stacking arrangement.
Well today decided to deal with the dryer situation and noticed the knob shown as totally pristine in the snaps taken by my Secret Squirrel, is now marked and a bit smashed. So much for the highly rated and regarded HomeDirect.
Thus far have been concentrating most of my efforts and time on the Lavamat, with the Lavatherm dryer sitting shoved off to the side whilst one sorted out some sort of stacking arrangement.
Well today decided to deal with the dryer situation and noticed the knob shown as totally pristine in the snaps taken by my Secret Squirrel, is now marked and a bit smashed. So much for the highly rated and regarded HomeDirect.
mickeyd
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Dearest, Gobsmacked!
Is is not the weirdest proverbial bite in the buttocks that both of our machines, your former WP convertible and the Lavamat had their bottoms damaged during shipping. If one were paranoid......etc.
Love or what have you,
Michael.
Is is not the weirdest proverbial bite in the buttocks that both of our machines, your former WP convertible and the Lavamat had their bottoms damaged during shipping. If one were paranoid......etc.
Love or what have you,
Michael.
Hello and congrats to your new set.
You have good machines there. AEG today is just a shadow of its former self. The quality is absolutely nothing compared to what it was years or even decades ago. The brand shares the fate of many other good brands that built good machines in the past. I would never buy a AEG today as they would not survive a few years.
You have good machines there. AEG today is just a shadow of its former self. The quality is absolutely nothing compared to what it was years or even decades ago. The brand shares the fate of many other good brands that built good machines in the past. I would never buy a AEG today as they would not survive a few years.
Danke MrWash
Love little "Hans der grosse", but the difference between the AEG and Miele in terms of build design and quality is interesting.
For instance have ordered new leveling legs to replace those damaged during shipment. http://shop.aeg.co.uk/product/4071374336/Washing+Machine+Foot
Apparently the things come as a kit and one has to take off the back of washer in order to get at the plastic support (and nut that holds it in place) which holds the screw in feet. Miele's feet simply screw into the base of the washer, simple as marmalade and kippers. Indeed the Miele is totally front serviceable. AEG's apparently are the other way; you have to go through the back as the front is all one piece.
Love little "Hans der grosse", but the difference between the AEG and Miele in terms of build design and quality is interesting.
For instance have ordered new leveling legs to replace those damaged during shipment. http://shop.aeg.co.uk/product/4071374336/Washing+Machine+Foot
Apparently the things come as a kit and one has to take off the back of washer in order to get at the plastic support (and nut that holds it in place) which holds the screw in feet. Miele's feet simply screw into the base of the washer, simple as marmalade and kippers. Indeed the Miele is totally front serviceable. AEG's apparently are the other way; you have to go through the back as the front is all one piece.
Newer Miele's aren't totally front serviceable anymore. Apparently it was too expensive to build.
Really?
How very odd. One wonders why it is more expensive, I mean it is just a swing open cabinet.
How very odd. One wonders why it is more expensive, I mean it is just a swing open cabinet.
I really don't know. Perhaps it is easier to manufacture on an automated production line.
Probably
Having opened and then shut up our Miele can see how it could be a manual only job. Not to mention those fronts are heavy, not something you'd want swinging about on a production line.
To sad really as having to shove a washer away and back from a wall or within a cubby for repair isn't fun.
Having opened and then shut up our Miele can see how it could be a manual only job. Not to mention those fronts are heavy, not something you'd want swinging about on a production line.
To sad really as having to shove a washer away and back from a wall or within a cubby for repair isn't fun.
Congratulations!
You shot one of the best modern machines there are (were) on the German market. As Louis in Groningen said: One of the last ones that were made in Nürnberg.
My best friend owns one like this, it has been going strong for the last 11 years flawlessly. Ok, the sounds got some (estimated) 20% louder ever since, but still: Once you open the room window for a small crack (hearing the street sounds), you won't here the machine, not even today. The gurgling of the water on the glass of the door is still louder than the humming of the recirculation pump itself. A regular breakfast conversation in a low voice is louder than this machine, which made it perfect to be used during the night here, when electricity is up to 40% cheaper in some towns. (Hence the 24 hrs delay button).
His machine is doing some 4-8 loads a week, some on 60°C (hot), but most of them on 40°C (warm) or 30°C (luke warm). The only thing it can't handle were dog blankets, most of the dog hair has to be taken off in the (matching) dryer, a hedge-hog type rubber dryer ball helping it along.
Me too, I have heard of some people having problems with it on some internet forums, but we have not encountered any of those ever.
Still today I love to get over to his place just in order to wash my motorbike repair rags in it (using the "stains" button and some oxygen bleach in the according dispenser) because they come out even better than boil-washed in one of my own older 1960s water hogs.
Even if its overall "feel" is somewhat more "plasticky" than that of a comparable Miele, I would always go for this last German made TOL AEG.
Good you have it, enjoy!
You shot one of the best modern machines there are (were) on the German market. As Louis in Groningen said: One of the last ones that were made in Nürnberg.
My best friend owns one like this, it has been going strong for the last 11 years flawlessly. Ok, the sounds got some (estimated) 20% louder ever since, but still: Once you open the room window for a small crack (hearing the street sounds), you won't here the machine, not even today. The gurgling of the water on the glass of the door is still louder than the humming of the recirculation pump itself. A regular breakfast conversation in a low voice is louder than this machine, which made it perfect to be used during the night here, when electricity is up to 40% cheaper in some towns. (Hence the 24 hrs delay button).
His machine is doing some 4-8 loads a week, some on 60°C (hot), but most of them on 40°C (warm) or 30°C (luke warm). The only thing it can't handle were dog blankets, most of the dog hair has to be taken off in the (matching) dryer, a hedge-hog type rubber dryer ball helping it along.
Me too, I have heard of some people having problems with it on some internet forums, but we have not encountered any of those ever.
Still today I love to get over to his place just in order to wash my motorbike repair rags in it (using the "stains" button and some oxygen bleach in the according dispenser) because they come out even better than boil-washed in one of my own older 1960s water hogs.
Even if its overall "feel" is somewhat more "plasticky" than that of a comparable Miele, I would always go for this last German made TOL AEG.
Good you have it, enjoy!
Thanks Whirlpolf
Am hoping after all is said and done have nabbed a bargain, however only time will tell.
Many of the cycles and or features will take some getting used to after trial and error. For instance the "Stain" cycle as one understands from the manual merely flushes whatever treatment is loaded into the dispenser into the drum. This seems odd to me since Persil and other TOL and even MOL modern German detergents are packed with enzymes and bleaches that start working in cold (85F) water all the way to nearly boiling. So why even in a cold fill machine wait until "the proper time" as the manual states?
Am probably *not* going to crank up the spin to 1800 on a regular basis. Well not until the theory is sorted about high spins leading to shortened bearing life.
At first differences in build quality between the AEG and Miele bothered me, but once one understands some of the methods behind the madness....
For instance the Miele has huge commercial washer shocks, which makes sense since it will spin all but the most severely unbalanced loads. OTHO the AEG has a very sophisticated OOB system and is designed to prevent such things from occurring in the first place. Or, should they happen take steps before the unit bashes itself to death. Thus the difference in shocks found in the Lavamat.
Am hoping after all is said and done have nabbed a bargain, however only time will tell.
Many of the cycles and or features will take some getting used to after trial and error. For instance the "Stain" cycle as one understands from the manual merely flushes whatever treatment is loaded into the dispenser into the drum. This seems odd to me since Persil and other TOL and even MOL modern German detergents are packed with enzymes and bleaches that start working in cold (85F) water all the way to nearly boiling. So why even in a cold fill machine wait until "the proper time" as the manual states?
Am probably *not* going to crank up the spin to 1800 on a regular basis. Well not until the theory is sorted about high spins leading to shortened bearing life.
At first differences in build quality between the AEG and Miele bothered me, but once one understands some of the methods behind the madness....
For instance the Miele has huge commercial washer shocks, which makes sense since it will spin all but the most severely unbalanced loads. OTHO the AEG has a very sophisticated OOB system and is designed to prevent such things from occurring in the first place. Or, should they happen take steps before the unit bashes itself to death. Thus the difference in shocks found in the Lavamat.
"Stain" cycle (or "stain" option?)
As far as I know, the idea behind the "stain" option in AEG machines is that the stain additives do not allow the enzymes to do their job properly, hence the additive is added later in the wash phase when the water temperature is about 40°C (about 104F) and the enzymes are supposed to have finished their action.
The "stain" option cannot be used if the wash temperature is lower than 40°C (about 104F) and it increase the duration of the washing phase of about 14 minutes.
At least, this is what AEG say...
As far as I know, the idea behind the "stain" option in AEG machines is that the stain additives do not allow the enzymes to do their job properly, hence the additive is added later in the wash phase when the water temperature is about 40°C (about 104F) and the enzymes are supposed to have finished their action.
The "stain" option cannot be used if the wash temperature is lower than 40°C (about 104F) and it increase the duration of the washing phase of about 14 minutes.
At least, this is what AEG say...
About 10-11 years ago I had a way more BOL AEG but still similar to this one (timeframe wise) for a while but returned it to the appliance shop due to too many problems and finally bought a Miele. I loved the way it handled OOB loads, it could even distribute a single sweater for a spin in no time.
I think another reason for the stain cycle was to save on chemicals. There even was a "Baukastenwaschmittel" on the market for some time in Germany. A niche product consisting of three components (detergent, water softener and bleach) called Skip. The idea was you don`t need to increase the amount of detergent in hard water if you use the seperate water softener.
The AEG`s even went a step further, by adding different components at the perfect time for even greater savings. You can add a seperate powdered water softener over the pre wash compartement at the commence of any cycle without pre wash and the bleach or "Fleckensalz" in the stain cycle after the enzymes did their job.
Don`t get me wrong on this one but I`ve always considered those AEG`s as upscale Swedish Electrolux products merely assembled in a dying German factory.
I think another reason for the stain cycle was to save on chemicals. There even was a "Baukastenwaschmittel" on the market for some time in Germany. A niche product consisting of three components (detergent, water softener and bleach) called Skip. The idea was you don`t need to increase the amount of detergent in hard water if you use the seperate water softener.
The AEG`s even went a step further, by adding different components at the perfect time for even greater savings. You can add a seperate powdered water softener over the pre wash compartement at the commence of any cycle without pre wash and the bleach or "Fleckensalz" in the stain cycle after the enzymes did their job.
Don`t get me wrong on this one but I`ve always considered those AEG`s as upscale Swedish Electrolux products merely assembled in a dying German factory.
