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danemodsandy
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JeffG:
Politics aside, the energy crisis was very real in one aspect that cannot be denied: there were times and places where no gasoline was available. Whatever caused that - and I don't really wanna go there - it was a serious problem for people whose jobs depended on transportation.
I would also like to point out that some very effective measures were taken to deal with the problem. The size of cars and their engines fell quickly and drastically for a time. "Lights out" rules limited the amount of lighting in commercial buildings at night. A 78-degree limit was set for the air conditioning in public buildings. Whatever one believes or doesn't believe about the cause of the problem, some very effective, common-sense measures were taken to help with it. I wish we had such "horse smarts" today; everyone's yammering about carbon credits and plug-in hybrids and LED light bulbs and bamboo cutting boards instead of just looking at ways to use less.
We had more sense in the '70s. You turned the light off. You set the thermostat up. You switched the ignition off, or planned your trip to get the most things done for the gasoline expended. People today seem to think they can somehow have it all and save energy. It's certainly possible to design new products that are more energy-efficient, renewable and "green," but those things only work up to a point. The "OFF" switch is the best energy-saving gadget ever devised by the mind of man.
Politics aside, the energy crisis was very real in one aspect that cannot be denied: there were times and places where no gasoline was available. Whatever caused that - and I don't really wanna go there - it was a serious problem for people whose jobs depended on transportation.
I would also like to point out that some very effective measures were taken to deal with the problem. The size of cars and their engines fell quickly and drastically for a time. "Lights out" rules limited the amount of lighting in commercial buildings at night. A 78-degree limit was set for the air conditioning in public buildings. Whatever one believes or doesn't believe about the cause of the problem, some very effective, common-sense measures were taken to help with it. I wish we had such "horse smarts" today; everyone's yammering about carbon credits and plug-in hybrids and LED light bulbs and bamboo cutting boards instead of just looking at ways to use less.
We had more sense in the '70s. You turned the light off. You set the thermostat up. You switched the ignition off, or planned your trip to get the most things done for the gasoline expended. People today seem to think they can somehow have it all and save energy. It's certainly possible to design new products that are more energy-efficient, renewable and "green," but those things only work up to a point. The "OFF" switch is the best energy-saving gadget ever devised by the mind of man.
Sandy, I honestly don't see people going out of their way to waste energy today. If anything, I've found most people are far more energy conscious today than they were in the 1970's/80's.
Look at Figure 2 at the following DOE link, and you'll see the average energy use per person in the U.S. is lower today than it was in 1973.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/perspectives.pdf
Look at Figure 2 at the following DOE link, and you'll see the average energy use per person in the U.S. is lower today than it was in 1973.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/perspectives.pdf
whirlaway
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Energy Saving
Not so Jeff in the 70s we tried very hard to be energy -savers.During that time gas prices went sky high and our power bills also and natural gas.Food was about our only saving grace. I worked for the A&P from the time I was 15 till I graduated from high school.I still remember lots of the prices.We had manual scales to weigh produce at the checkouts and the machines were manual.In other words you had to think!!!!! Regular cigs were 37&39 for 100's.When I was little in the late 50's my grandmother would let me wind the key on the Maxwell House coffee can.I would always hear that familiar Whoosh! I miss those days the perc on the gas stove it smelled so good in the mornings and I was allowed a small cup of coffee with my breakfast, Bobby
Not so Jeff in the 70s we tried very hard to be energy -savers.During that time gas prices went sky high and our power bills also and natural gas.Food was about our only saving grace. I worked for the A&P from the time I was 15 till I graduated from high school.I still remember lots of the prices.We had manual scales to weigh produce at the checkouts and the machines were manual.In other words you had to think!!!!! Regular cigs were 37&39 for 100's.When I was little in the late 50's my grandmother would let me wind the key on the Maxwell House coffee can.I would always hear that familiar Whoosh! I miss those days the perc on the gas stove it smelled so good in the mornings and I was allowed a small cup of coffee with my breakfast, Bobby
> Not so Jeff in the 70s we tried very hard to be energy -savers. <
All one needs to do is look at which automobiles sold the most in the 1970's. My dad bought a '74 Cadillac that was the size of a studio apartment.
Also, advances in technology have a lot to do with it. Just one invention, microwave ovens, substantially reduced our energy consumption. Or the internet.. how much gas is saved by online shopping and people working from home? I'd imagine lots.
All one needs to do is look at which automobiles sold the most in the 1970's. My dad bought a '74 Cadillac that was the size of a studio apartment.
Also, advances in technology have a lot to do with it. Just one invention, microwave ovens, substantially reduced our energy consumption. Or the internet.. how much gas is saved by online shopping and people working from home? I'd imagine lots.
danemodsandy
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JeffG:
It may be something of a regional thing or something. I know you're in California, where people are more sensitive to energy and green issues. Here where I am (Atlanta area), an awful lot of people continue to party like it's 1972. I have neighbours on this street who own four cars between the two of them, they watered nightly all through several years of drought and a total watering ban, they have a huge pool nobody uses except to sit beside with a drinkie-poo in the evenings. You go in their house and it's 70 degrees inside. Any long holiday weekend is spent jetting to Vegas for a few days of gambling. They don't care at all, they have the money to get away with not caring, and they're not atypical around here. They pride themselves on stuff like their evasion of the watering ban; they think they're clever because they set the sprinkler system's timer for 3 am, when no one was likely to be around to see them flout the ban (I am ashamed to say that I did not rat them out, but in my defence, they are armed and not shy about saying so, especially when they're a little tipsy, which is a lot of the time).
You got so-called tree-huggers, we got Neanderthals with high credit limits. I guess it evens out somewhere in the middle.
It may be something of a regional thing or something. I know you're in California, where people are more sensitive to energy and green issues. Here where I am (Atlanta area), an awful lot of people continue to party like it's 1972. I have neighbours on this street who own four cars between the two of them, they watered nightly all through several years of drought and a total watering ban, they have a huge pool nobody uses except to sit beside with a drinkie-poo in the evenings. You go in their house and it's 70 degrees inside. Any long holiday weekend is spent jetting to Vegas for a few days of gambling. They don't care at all, they have the money to get away with not caring, and they're not atypical around here. They pride themselves on stuff like their evasion of the watering ban; they think they're clever because they set the sprinkler system's timer for 3 am, when no one was likely to be around to see them flout the ban (I am ashamed to say that I did not rat them out, but in my defence, they are armed and not shy about saying so, especially when they're a little tipsy, which is a lot of the time).
You got so-called tree-huggers, we got Neanderthals with high credit limits. I guess it evens out somewhere in the middle.
whirlaway
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How old are You
Jeff,how old are you? We had microwave ovens and those big Caddys were styled in the sixties.We had loads of Pintos and Vega's and Gremlins.Most of my friends parents and mine were very saving,and grandparents,because of the depression.You have to remember not everybody owned those big cars and homes actually the upper-middle class.Credit wasnt as easy then,much easier now,Bobby
Jeff,how old are you? We had microwave ovens and those big Caddys were styled in the sixties.We had loads of Pintos and Vega's and Gremlins.Most of my friends parents and mine were very saving,and grandparents,because of the depression.You have to remember not everybody owned those big cars and homes actually the upper-middle class.Credit wasnt as easy then,much easier now,Bobby
Good Coffee...
For the midwest folks, Menards of all places, carries a pretty wide assortment of 8 o'clock ground coffee. I think I even picked up the Bokar blend a while back. At 3.99 (or was it 2.99?) with a "dollar off your next purchase" coupon in the bag, it's tough to go wrong.
I get tired of cleaning the percolator every morning, but it's difficult to start my day without a thermos of Chock Ful'O.
Cory
For the midwest folks, Menards of all places, carries a pretty wide assortment of 8 o'clock ground coffee. I think I even picked up the Bokar blend a while back. At 3.99 (or was it 2.99?) with a "dollar off your next purchase" coupon in the bag, it's tough to go wrong.
I get tired of cleaning the percolator every morning, but it's difficult to start my day without a thermos of Chock Ful'O.
Cory
whirlaway
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Perc Filters
I use perc filters made by Mr.Coffee,just put them in the basket,put in the grounds.When you are finished take them out put them around your roses or whatever,great for them.Much easier cleanup too. No grounds in the sink.Look for them at the super with the rest of the filters.Hope this helps, Bobby
I use perc filters made by Mr.Coffee,just put them in the basket,put in the grounds.When you are finished take them out put them around your roses or whatever,great for them.Much easier cleanup too. No grounds in the sink.Look for them at the super with the rest of the filters.Hope this helps, Bobby
whirlcool
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We use a gold filter in our Cuisinart coffee pot. No paper filters to screw around with at all. After using this filter for several years we certainly can taste the "filter taste" in any coffee that has been brewed using a paper filter. The Sunbeam vacuum pots with their cloth filters do not do this.
We usually buy our coffee from an independent coffee roasting shop locally. Their coffees are the best I have ever tasted. But last month we bought some 8 o'clock coffee (medium roast) and a bad of Dunkin Doughnuts coffee (both whole bean)and found them both to be good, with a slight preference to the Dunkin Doughnuts coffee. But at $6.99 a lb, it's almost as expensive as the local coffee we buy in the coffee shop.
We usually buy our coffee from an independent coffee roasting shop locally. Their coffees are the best I have ever tasted. But last month we bought some 8 o'clock coffee (medium roast) and a bad of Dunkin Doughnuts coffee (both whole bean)and found them both to be good, with a slight preference to the Dunkin Doughnuts coffee. But at $6.99 a lb, it's almost as expensive as the local coffee we buy in the coffee shop.
8 O'clock Original
and 8 O'clock Columbian are my daily coffees, though when I get to the city, I like to pick up a few bags of whole bean from a coffee shop that I like.
There's also a coffee shop in Indiana, PA, not far from me in the great scheme of things, that I really want to try. Unfortunately, every time that I am down that way, I forget to drop in.
I used the gold filter for many years, and then a couple of years ago, for some reason which escapes me now, I switched over to paper filters for drip, and have pretty much stuck with them. I'm guessing that it had to do with one less thing to wash.
Joe
and 8 O'clock Columbian are my daily coffees, though when I get to the city, I like to pick up a few bags of whole bean from a coffee shop that I like.
There's also a coffee shop in Indiana, PA, not far from me in the great scheme of things, that I really want to try. Unfortunately, every time that I am down that way, I forget to drop in.
I used the gold filter for many years, and then a couple of years ago, for some reason which escapes me now, I switched over to paper filters for drip, and have pretty much stuck with them. I'm guessing that it had to do with one less thing to wash.
Joe
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