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"This is the cop who arrested Craig"

Well NO WONDER. Who could resist THAT bait? I'd be tapping my feet (ruby slippers) too ... and NOT to get back to Kansas, hahahahaha!!!
 
can't wait until 2008

We can hope, but if Bush and Cheney actually manage to start
a REAL war with Iran - how many Americans are going to fall
back into line?
 
goprog~

to fund a war, it requires Congress to approve..There is NO WAY Pelosi and Reid will jump in that hole.
Bush and Cheney have ZERO credibility with 75% of Americans. The other 25% are a lost cause or have their heads buried in the sand. In Iraq, that is...
 
If you give someone enough rope, perhaps they will hang them

The problem with this is that there is no precedent set. By
allowing the current adminitstration to get away with what they
are doing, it means a future administration can point back to
it and say it is "accepted practice". Now maybe the Dems are
thinking in the back of their mind that they want to be able
to wield that same sort of unitary executive power. And then
when they are out of power, it will have been reinforced and
who knows what we'll get - from either. This administration
has to be impeached/tried now to declare there are limits in
the constitution and they will be enforced. The fact the Dems
are NOT doing their job (except for a few) is probably the main
reason their approval ratings are down.

Gonzales and Rove are happy about Craig. It takes the
spotlight off them.
 
goprog~

You have raised some very accurate points. However, The Democrats are not stupid. Sad as it seems, the majority of Americans don't want Bush and Co impeached.
Personally, I think he, Cheney,Rumsfeld, the whole lot of them belong in jail.
What Americans do want is an end to the Iraq war,but the majorities in the House and Senate are too narrow, so in reality it is difficult for the Dems to get alot accomplished. They actually need Republicans to defect to defund the war.
My guess is the closer we get to the 2008 election, you are going to see many Republicans defect and side with the Dems.
 
HERE IS WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND!?

Plenty of people have their itches to scratch,and do it in a way that keeps dignity and discretion, if they choose, confidential. Gay or straight, people have affairs, the poorer we are, probably the less discreet we can be, but class and money should have it's privlideges and money should prevent you from soliciting sex in a bathroom in an airport.

I just can't understand how multi million dollar movie stars get arrested for DWI when they can afford limosines and drivers, and the entire limosine company to buy if they wish,and Politicians dont just hire a hooker, or another movie star to have sex with them. Also, people who want discreet sex who have money who are Senators or Singers dont need to go to public bathrooms to get off. Get your assistant to hire a trick, turn it over to you. It's so silly. This guy gives gay sex and toilet stall footsies a bad name. Next thing, he will probably say he was drunk and go into re-hab and give alcohol a bad name. Thats a Republican for you: The two faces of EVIL.
 
~sudshane

What you're really saying is that the Democrats can't find 40
(or 41) senators to sustain a filibuster to stop a war-funding
bill from passing. They don't need to pass a law to stop
the funding, they simply need to prevent a law from passing
that continues the funding. A far lower bar than overriding a
filibuster or overriding a veto - and should be achievable if
some of them weren't Republicans in disguise - just like Norm
Coleman seems to have been when he was a "Democrat"
way-back-when.

The point is Bush will say he doesn't need additional approval
of Congress to attack Iran. He will simply say he is acting
as commander-in-chief during the "War (Occupation) on Terror"
and defending the troops. If he has already started the war
under his assumed title and Iran fights back, then how many
pols in Congress will resist (besides Kucinich and the select
few?)

Perhaps it would be easier if there was a single source of
corruption/criminal activity like Nixon, but when you are
being overwhelmed with corruption on all sides and people are
resigning, resisting, and spinning from all directions, it
is hard to find a place to attack (defend) when you're
being overrun. Which problem do you turn your back on for
the moment?
 
majority of Americans don't want Bush and Co impeached

And I think you are slightly mistaken. I think the polls say
a slight majority (54% ?) of Americans want Cheney impeached.
Bush is still only in the high-40's range, but Nixon was less
than that I think until the actual investigations started and
the truth came out.
 
how multi million dollar movie stars get arrested for DWI

Cause they are STUPID???

Well known that too much alcohol doesn't generally make one smarter or act more responsibly. Perhaps Larry Craig was blitzed from the little likker bottles on his flight into Minnie. It's not like it would be hard to believe, but he probably didn't want to admit to being intoxicated on top of everything else.

I was thinking that in some cases (Brittney Spears) too much wealth and fame too fast leads to inability to cope with the many changes. It's like she thinks she still lives in a trailer park or something. Paris Hilton has no such excuse - just STUPID in that one. Nick Nolte, Mel Gibson, David Hasselhof: just plain dumb drunks.

Probably not so easy to just tell your assistant to book a few hookers, strippers or male dancers or giraffs or whatever. Assistants talk - to each other, I gather. Somebody is bound to spill the beans sooner or later. But probably still preferable to getting arrested in a public restroom.

I guess Merv Griffen - another staunch Republican - never had a chance to give Larry Craig a few pointers on how to be married, closeted, have a good time, and stay out of jail. LOL.
 
It all comes back to - Me Thinks He Doth Protest Too Much

I ran across this link as I was preparing my post. Synchronicity.

I think it's incredibly sad that we--as a gay community--are often our own worst enemies.

In reply to the person who wrote "The media has field days when a conservative Republican screws up," alluding to the mythical "liberal" media.

To whom are you referring on neoconservative Rupert Murdoch's Fox "spin" team? Bill O'Reilly, John Gibson, Shepard Smith (talk about a closet case... ok, I admit that was mean spirited.)

www.dailykos.com

The Good News About Terrorism

Daily Kos is a progressive news site that fights for democracy by giving our audience information and resources to win elections and impact government. Our coverage is assiduously factual, ethical, and unapologetically liberal. We amplify what we think is important, with the proper context—not...
www.dailykos.com
 
Mythical liberal media is right.

How many of the liberal media questioned the invasion of Iraq?

Remember Dan Rather? Basically forced to retire. Not because
the facts (facts, what facts? says Faux News) were wrong, but
because the person giving him information could not prove HIS
version of the facts. The facts were still correct, it's the
fact one source was not investigated more thoroughly that was
the problem. Double standard - WMD, Chalabi, Curveball, etc.

The first few hours of the "War", CNN's website had their
catch-phrase/log on their website - "War On Iraq". A few
hours later they changed it to "War In Iraq". I know, I
saved both images. I have the evidence. Spin, spin, spin.
I preferred the days when it was "Turn, turn, turn".

Phil Donahue's show on MSNBC was cancelled because he did
not toe the administration's line. At least we now have
Keith Olbermann. Too popular (or is it the attitude?) for
the money-hungry media to cancel now?
 


Tonight I actually felt a twinge of sadness for this man Larry Craig.

Imagine what a tortured life he has led. 60-some years of age and having been hiding this awful, terrible, vile, yet irresistible secret from the whole world, a secret that he loathed and despised so greatly -- even as he allowed it to consummate him -- that the only way he could acknowledge its presence was to bring it down to the lowest level he could -- wallowing in the stench and filth of a public toilet.

Imagine, really, the agonizing, anguished psychic pain he has been suffering under for probably his entire life. (Rumors to the contrary, an adult doesn't just suddenly wake up one morning and decide to embrace "The Gay Lifestyle.")

I truly felt deep sadness for this poor, tormented man and wished it did not have to be so for him.

But then the image of Matthew Shepherd's mangled and broken body strewn across that wooden fence in the cold, dark, lonely Montana night flashed into my mind and rudely intruded into my sadness for Senator Craig.

Matthew, too, suffered a terrible fate because of rabid, hate-infused, repressed homosexual passion. Only in his case it was not HIS own homosexual loathing that brought him not just public humiliation but indeed straight to death's door: It was the twisted, burning hatred of homophobic (ergo latent homosexual) psychopaths who dragged him, kicking and screaming, to his death. They literally tore the life out of his tortured body.

And that image to me is far more grievous and gut-wrenching than some pathetic, horny old man sitting on the piddle-pot with his trousers around his bony ankles and tapping his foot, hoping to entice the handsome young man in the next stall. Who just happened to be an undercover vice officer. Drat the luck.

As I said, the blood and suffering of the many Matthew Shepherds are on the hands of the many Larry Craigs who tacitly endorse hate crimes against gays by boldly and with great rancor speaking out against "the iniquity of homosexuality" -- pointing at homosexuals and calling them vile, evil, immoral and intolerable. And who also tacitly endorse hate crimes against gays by their incessant, shrill insistence that gays are less-than citizens and thus unentitled to equal rights, equal status and equal tolerance.

Then the very minute these pathetic hypocrites can scuttle out of the limelight and back into the darkness of their secret lives, they are leering through the cracks in the doors of public men's rooms, fervently hoping for the chance to indulge in the very "debased acts of iniquity" that they were just railing against in their churches, their meeting rooms, their congressional chambers, and their courts.

en.wikipedia.org

Matthew Shepard - Wikipedia

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I cannot muster up any sympathy for Larry Craig or any other of his ilk, I can find sympathy for those who hide their sexuality and DON'T defame the rest of us in order to take suspicion away from themselves. And Matthew Shepherd---hope the killers are getting theirs.
 
OMG I Love This

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This is one of the many reasons why I moved to Minneapolis 12 years ago and love living here, all the hot blonde waspy Minnesota and Iowa boys (which is my weakness) LOL. Of course if he made advances at me in a public bathroom I still would be discussed and maybe a bit amused (ok maybe more than a bit) but that's all that would happen!
 
I still would be discussed

Whoops LOL, when I said "discussed" in my post above, I meant "Disgusted". Freudian slip maybe? A little too quick with the spell checker can be dangerous.
 

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