Tide he Turbo

[launderess]

Even in Europe P&G laundry detergents are not known for clean rinsing. However being as that may this whole "HE Turbo" nonsense may be Proctor and Gamble realizing that the days of high dilution detergents are over.

As both h-axis and top loading "energy efficient" washing machines use "wet nap" washing and not much more for the rinses is important to have surfactants that will rinse cleanly in little water. Otherwise what is the point of touting "water savings" if laundry must go through five or more rinses to get the stuff out.

 

[frigilux]

I picked up a small bag of Tide HE Turbo pods at Walmart. Have used one, but noticed only marginally clearer water in the 2nd rinse (softened water). Saw the box of turbo powder at Sam's Club. P&G has yet to grasp the definition of low-sudsing.

 

[washman]

turbo eh?

I figured it meant your laundry got done quicker

 

[frigilux]

OK....perhaps I spoke too soon. Just did a load of five "cat towels" (old bath towels on chairs, couches, desktops where the cats like to lounge) using a Turbo Pod. Suds were abundant during the 20-minute wash tumble. Checked again during the 2nd (final) rinse; it was noticeably clearer than when using a standard Tide Pod. Figured a bath towel load would be a good test, as the heavy fabric tends to hold suds more tenaciously than, say, bed linens.

Will wash a load tomorrow using a standard Tide Pod to confirm any differences. Huh! Maybe these new Turbo Pods do rinse cleaner.

 

Ben-- That would be nice!  Tide's explanation is that "Turbo" means they are faster-acting.  Enzymes on speed, maybe?

 

[frigilux]

Update: Washed two medium-sized loads of bath towels; one with an original Tide Pod and the second with a Tide Turbo Pod. I checked each load about 15 minutes into an 18-minute wash tumble, then again during the final (2nd rinse). Note: Softened water.

1. Load One: The original Tide Pod behaved as expected. Sudsy wash, tenacious suds. Some suds left in 2nd rinse (normal in softened water).

2. Load Two: The Turbo Pod filled three-quarters of the tub with suds. I watched the final couple minutes of the wash, figuring the Frigidaire would kick into its excess suds protocol. While hanging up some shirts---three minutes, tops---the washer drained and began its balancing act. I hit the light button and to my absolute astonishment, the excess suds had disappeared. Again, the tub had been nearly filled with thick suds only minutes earlier. I've never seen that much suds just vanish. No oversudsing routine needed. First and second rinses had a bit of suds, but less than with the original Pod. Interestingly, towels felt well-rinsed when pulled from the washer after the final spin. No feel or sound of embedded suds.

Conclusion: The wizards at P&G have done something with the formula. Exactly what that is, I do not know. I wouldn't call the Turbo Pod low-sudsing (as does P&G), but it certainly gets rid of its suds very efficiently compared to the original Pod. Wild.[this post was last edited: 2/18/2015-18:55]

 

[frigilux]

I've found a new daily driver for the laundry room: Tide HE Turbo Pods. Been using them for a week and am consistently impressed with clear final rinse water. It has successfully tackled a load of uber-stained kitchen whites, so I can report that cleaning (at least in soft water) is great. Turbo beats other pods in the cabinet (All, Kirkland Signature, Wisk) in the rinsing department hands down.

So far, I've found them only in bags of 14 at Walmart. Hope these will phase-in and take the place of V.1.

Has anyone tried the liquid or powdered version of HE Turbo? Are you finding substantially clearer rinses compared to conventional Tide products?

FINALLY: The chemists at P&G have figured out that a detergent's ability to get rid of its own suds--particularly in softened water--is nearly as important as cleaning power. Be sure to look for the little HE Turbo graphic on the packaging.

Calling Gansky1: You have softened water and run a pod-friendly household. Give these a try and let us know if you experience results similar to mine.

 

[jetcone]

Tide hasn't given you

the correct answer. Tide has changed dramatically in the last 5 years.  P&G has invented and now patented a new surfactant of their own an alkyl sulfate which is designed to do three things, wash in tepid to cold water, and replace the old style 2-surfactant formulas that hit both grease and dirt and free them up from buying from Shell cleaning. 

I find this to be middling cleaning at best but also find it's very difficult to rinse out! 5 full tubs of water in my Easy SpinDrier before I felt the cottons were rinsed.

 

 

 

[roscoe62]

please be seated

apparently Tide has solved the HE problem with detergents, Turbo solved, see the link, there are a number of videos you can view. Tks.

http://www.tide.com/en-US/tide-he-turbo.jspx

 

[murando531]

I just watched all the little video clips on the site. This is the first time in a while that P&G has actually made me proud!! It seems they're trying to combat the problem of people being so careless with their laundry and ACTUALLY telling people what is going wrong and how to fix it.

I'm going to try some of the new HE Turbo in the Bravos, considering its track record with suds so far. I wonder if it comes in a powder formula as well. I completely believe what they say about other detergent manufacturers' HE formulas. I've tried numerous brands over the past few months and so far the other brands, like All and Wisk, and especially this new OxiClean detergent, all cause a substantial amount of suds considering the small capful used. I'd agree with Tide that there needs to be a standard set, so that companies can't just slap an HE label on the same formula they've had for years before these new low-water machines were mass produced.

 

[tomturbomatic]

I saw Tide Turbo HE powder at a store last week. It was probably Home Depot.

 

[frigilux]

I've used only the pod format, but am hoping someone will try the Turbo liquid or powder. The suds really do break down very quickly. My new daily driver!

Buyer beware: Look for the Turbo graphic on the front of the package.

 

[magic_clean]

Liquid Tide Original Turbo.........

recently running low on detergent, so I picked up some Tide Original in the latest Turbo HE version. The sudsing is very low and the bubbles break down quickly once the tumbling stops.

Washed a large load of cotton polyester oxford shirts, a windbreaker and couple pair of jeans......clothes are clean and no bubbles in the rinse. Very nice! Wash cycle pics attached..

L.P.

 

[mich]

I do wanna point out.

Tide's claim of time saving, assumes that a typical HE Machine is equipped with a suds sensor, that would trigger another rinse cycle. I have no idea about the typical rate of (HE) machines being equipped with suds sensors in the US. That's not really something I'm an expert on. And I'd love for you guys to chime in, with any statistics or ballpark figures on what you think it'd be. 

 

P&G I think, has good intentions and I like the fact that their trying to formulate detergents to rinse better.

 

<span style="text-decoration: underline;">With that said. I personally, am not completely convinced that all the detergent is really being rinsed away.</span>

 

And, I want to make a point. I don't think you can ever truly rinse something completely 100% away from a porous surface, a fabric. Fabrics soak up everything like a sponge. And I have a hard time believing you can ever fully rinse it all away, no matter what detergent you use. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[tomturbomatic]

"The sudsing is very low and the bubbles break down quickly once the tumbling stops."

My question about this is: does this mean that the detergent will still foam up in the initial spin, but then the suds will collapse when the spin slows back to the distribution speed like in the surge-spins in the Speed Queen FL or does the overall low sudsing prevent foaming even in the spin after wash? The half and half mixture of Persil powder and STPP that I use for towels in the SQ does not cause sudsing problems at any stage of the cycle including during the surge-spins. It would be far more economical if I could use Tide.

Has anyone tested both the power and liquid formulations of Tide HE and noticed any differences in the sudsing propensities and patterns with potential problem loads like towels?

Thank you in advance.

 

[roscoe62]

Tide HE liquid / powder formulas

I've used both and always had a problem with the liquid, in particular towels, I have soft water and tried different dosages, even a teaspoon of liquid and a sudsing issue the second time around being washed, so I know it didn't rinse properly the first time.
Or the powder that was used prior to using the liquid was not rinsing clearly either, but using the powder there were no sudsing issues, and the same dosage, but that did not mean the detergent was rinsed well it may have been the impetus for the liquid to perform the way it did, I'm not certain, as towels do have a residue of soap, shampoo and shower gels.
I do remember Launderess has said to watch your dosage when using Tide liquid because there was a fine line with sudsing issues and dosage.

 

[teknikleespekng]

Liquid Tide HE Turbo

After reading this thread, I picked up a bottle - though I could only get the Clean Breeze (at Walmart no surprise).

Just a note that I have soft water.

I am really impressed. Low suds, water nice and slick. I normally use vinegar in my last rinse, but decided not to use it as a control. First load on whites (140 degree hot wash) and second on my alternative down queen comforter. Both loads came out clean with no soap residue, even under the boot.

When my local Sears hardware closed over a year ago, I stopped buying the Sears Ultra Plus and went with ALL. It does an okay job, but doesnt rinse very well and my whites are getting dingy.

For those that really like Tide, I'd say go buy a small bottle. Target has the better selection and the 50oz bottle is $6.50.

Im also considering buying a bottle of Persil Power-Perls, but that's another thread!

 

[magic_clean]

Large White cotton load

of Bath & hand towels, wash cloths, tub mat, briefs, T-shirts, athletic socks and a handful of cleaning cloths -- Bar mops. Attached pictures show heated Whitest-whites cycle after 20 minutes of wash tumble with a good half cap dose of Tide Turbo HE and a thin film of suds. BTW the water is 5 gpg hard.

For Tom; in the Duet, the Tide does not suds up during the 1st spin or any others for that matter; with any load. No backwash/backup of suds to slow things down. The suds level is very low and what little foam there is, pretty much settles and drains away with no residual sudsing.

BTW --all the best for the Holiday

L.P.

 

[roscoe62]

Half Cap Dosage

if I used that amount I'd never see the laundry room again, after seeing this pic can't wait to try Turbo HE.

 

[tomturbomatic]

Thank You Leslie and a Happy Holiday to you, too!

It is so funny how things change. Tide used to advertise how their thick working suds did not quit and now they advertise that their product has minimal suds and quick-collapsing bubbles.

 

[cehalstead]

suds level

Why do we even need suds? Marketing gimmick is all the suds are. Suds don't contribute to the cleaning. It's a holdover from ancient times (the time of my youth....the 1950's). I'd like to be able to buy a good detergent with no suds...end of problems.