Tide vs. Persil & and the rest

[mralex]

Miele’s detergents all contain six enzyme formulations. The ultra white powder, the liquid for colours and the phase 1 which is the same as the colour liquid. They’re made by Dali Werke

Phase 2 is a hydrogen peroxide

 

[launderess]

Wonder if the Miele liquid detergents

Sold here are same as the "ultra phase" cartridges.

We only have the large bottles of color care liquid. No cartridges and the liquid oxygen bleach.

 

[johnrk]

Hyacinth

I've had the boxed set of 'Keeping Up Appearances' for umpteen years, still enjoy it on occasion.

I was always amazed at how clean the Bucket house was, but Hyacinth never seemed to actually clean. Always wished I knew her trick!

 

[tomturbomatic]

Her trick was probably the same as Emily Gilmore's; drive your staff until they dropped or quit or both. Emily had a new maid every week. What a miserable, lonely bitch that character was and nobody liked Hyacinth either. Whoever wrote the Gilmore Girls show must have really had maternal issues. Most of the series is too over the top with drama. With Hyacinth it is just bothersome pretension.

[this post was last edited: 10/11/2017-06:10]

 

[iej]

I have to say I find the Miele cartridge system works very well, but it’s just too expensive to justify buying more after the freebies run out (you get a “years’” supply as a promo)

The accurate dosing has cut down my detergent use enormously though. I obviously had a very heavy hand!

 

[logixx]

Ariel's German "Compact" powders have the same enzymes as the Miele stuff, except that there's no Pectinase but Lyase. Lidl's very affordable Superconcentrate Liquid also had six enzymes - but it's been suddenly pulled off the shelves.

 

[mralex]

Logixx - my local Lidl still has it, might try it. How about the standard liquid from Lidl?

 

[dixan]

Unfortunately Formil superconcentrated liquid from Lidl does not contain 6 enzymes anymore. It contains now protease, lipase and three glycosidases. Some time ago it contained protease, amylase, lipase, mannanase, cellulase and colour version additionally pectate lyase. This doesn't make it bad, but now there is no cellulase, typically for Dalli Werke (they don't usually use cellulase in their detergents).

 

[mrboilwash]

Glycosidase is a generic term for amylase, cellulase, pectinase and mannanase.
In other words if you read "glycosidase" you can never tell exactly which one of these is actually meant.

 

[logixx]

Alex - I've never tried the standard liquid. The Superconcentrate was ranked the "best liquid detergent ever tested" by a Swedish consumer magazine. Don't know if they were referring to the Color or Universal version, though. I only ever used the Color formula.

Alex

 

[mralex]

I wish we had a list of detergents with the most enzymes, I’m a bit obsessed with finding detergents with six enzyme formulations lol

 

[grwasher_expert]

What does exactly "lyase" do?What kind of stains does it break down?

 

[mralex]

If I'm not mistaken, it removes fruit stains

 

[mralex]

Here's a list I have for referencing when I look at detergents lol

Proteases (Subtilisin)
Acts on stains containing proteins by degrading the proteins to peptides. Typical stains are blood, grass and soil at collars and cuffs.

Amylases
Acts on stains containing starch by degrading starch to short-chain sugars. Typical stains are sauces, gravy and ice-creams.

Lipases
Acts on soil containing oil and grease from food and body.

Cellulases
Acts on stains from dust and mud. They are especially good for cleaning clothes made from cellulosic fibers.

Mannanase
Breaks down starches and other carbohydrate based stains (amyl comes from the Greek for starch)

Pectinase (Lyase)
Removes fruit and pectin-based stains that traditional detergent ingredients have trouble removing, doing it efficiently at low wash temperatures.

 

[launderess]

Lyase simply means it is an enzyme

Amylase is simply an enzyme that breaks down starch into sugar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyase

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amylase

There are many lyase enzymes that work upon a bewildering and vast array of substances.

*Yes*, that nursing education again.....

Sit through enough chemistry, microbiology along with anatomy and physiology classes, and you learn a few things. *LOL*

 

[mralex]

Opsie! Please ignore the "(Lyase)" I hope the rest was somewhat correct lol

 

[rolls_rapide]

Some detergents refer to 'Pectinase', others refer to 'Pectate Lyase'. Both do the same job - break down stick fruit juice stains (apple juice, grapefruit juice).

I had wondered about the Glycosidases, as some detergents listed it two or three times. I presumed they were modified to perform differently.

I remember P&G's 'What's in the box' ingredients list, suggested that one version of the glycosidase enzyme would work on starch stains, and the other would attack pectin stains.