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Time of day calling it quits at AT & T
Los Angeles Times
August 29 2007

It's the end of time, at least as far as AT&T is concerned.

The brief note in customers' bills hardly does justice to the momentousness of the decision. "Service withdrawal," it blandly declares. "Effective September 2007, Time of Day information service will be discontinued."

What that means is that people throughout Southern California will no longer be able to call 853-1212 to hear a woman's recorded voice state that "at the tone, Pacific Daylight Time will be . . ." with the recording automatically updating at 10-second intervals.

"Times change," said John Britton, an AT&T spokesman. "In today's world, there are just too many other ways to get this information. You can look at your cellphone or your computer. You no longer have to pick up the telephone."

Indeed, time already has stopped in 48 other states, he said. California and Nevada are the two remaining holdouts.

In Northern California, the prefix for calling time is 767, or P-O-P on a telephone keypad. For decades, locals up there have dialed POPCORN any time they have had to reset their watches or reprogram electronic gadgets after a power failure.

"In California, our equipment has gotten old," Britton said. "It's reached the end of its life span."

Time's up statewide Sept. 19. Britton said Nevada service would live on borrowed time for an unspecified period, until the equipment in that state similarly starts breaking down.

One upside: AT&T says doing away with time would enable the creation of about 300,000 new phone numbers in California beginning with the 853 or 767 prefixes. (No such numbers have been issued to date because, when coupled with any four other digits, you get time.)

To be sure, time marches on. Yet for many Californians, the looming demise of the "time lady," as she's come to be known, marks the end of a more genteel era, when we all had time to share.

"It was always there," said Orlo Brown, 70, who for many years kept Pacific Bell's (and subsequently SBC's) time machines running in a downtown Los Angeles office building. "Everybody knew the number."

Richard Frenkiel was assigned to work on the time machines when he joined Bell Labs in the early 1960s. He described the devices as large drums about 2 feet in diameter, with as many as 100 album-like audio tracks on the exterior. Whenever someone called time, the drums would start turning and a message would begin, with different tracks mixed together on the fly.

"The people who worked on it took it very seriously," Frenkiel, 64, recalled. "They took a lot of pride in it."

In a twist of historical irony, Frenkiel went on to play a leading role in development of the technology that makes cellphones possible -- the very device that's now instrumental in killing time.

Phone companies have been providing the time to callers since the 1920s. In the early days, live operators read the time off clocks on the wall.

In the 1930s, an Atlanta company called Audichron devised a system for the time to be provided automatically. Audichron leased its technology to phone companies nationwide, often with sponsorship from local businesses.

Time ladies -- and a few gentlemen -- came and went over the years. Then, in the 1950s, a woman named Mary Moore emerged as the nation's leading time-teller.

Her reading of hours, minutes and seconds was delivered in a distinctive if somewhat prissy tone. Moore's odd pronunciation of the numbers 5 ("fiyev") and 9 ("niyun") influenced a generation of operators, much as flying ace Chuck Yeager's West Virginia drawl is said to have been adopted by innumerable airline pilots.

By far the most prominent time lady was Jane Barbe, who succeeded Moore at Audichron in the 1960s. A former big band singer, Barbe (pronounced "Barbie") went on to become the voice of recorded telephone messages in the 1970s and '80s in the United States and elsewhere.

Along with her interpretations of the time and current temperature, Barbe delivered the bad news too, telling you that circuits in a specific area were busy, please try again later, or that your call cannot be completed as dialed.

And who will ever forget her heartbreaking rendition of "I'm sorry, the number you have dialed is no longer in service"?

Barbe died of cancer-related complications in 2003 at age 74. It's estimated that at the height of her fame, Barbe's voice was heard worldwide about 40 million times a day.

AT&T's Britton said the company started using Audichron's machines in 1948 and then switched to a different system manufactured by rival Weatherchron, also of Atlanta, in the 1960s. He was unable to identify the current time lady, saying that perhaps no one at AT&T knows who she is.

Ellis Bryant, the 83-year-old president of Weatherchron, also was unsure whose voice Californians hear when they call time. So he dialed 853-1212 and listened to the recording.

"Oh, that's Joanne," Bryant said without hesitation. "Joanne Daniels. No doubt about it."

He said Daniels started recording the time for Weatherchron about 25 years ago. At some point after Pacific Bell switched to his company's system, Daniels became California's time lady.

Reached at her Atlanta home, Daniels, 65, estimated that her reach was once nearly as extensive as that of Barbe, who was a friend. Daniels is now retired.

"I've done the time in many areas -- Eastern Standard Time, central time, Pacific time," she said. "The fun part was doing the temperatures for places like Alaska."

Daniels switched to her professional voice, her soft Southern accent instantly vanishing. "At the tone," she said, "the temperature is minus 12 degrees." She laughed and her accent returned. "I liked that."

No one had told her that AT&T was about to stop time.

"I think that's very sad," Daniels said. "I was told at one time that my voice would last until well into the 21st century. Now it looks like I'm about to be laid to rest."

When that day comes, Daniels said, she knows what her epitaph will be: "She knew the time."
 
The Speaking clock.......

This is a link to a site with fantastic info on the British version started by the General Post Office/GPO in 1936 and still going- you dial 123 to get it.

Also has loads of info on the whole British system and loads of info on vintage instruments etc if any of you US guys are interested ;)

Seamus

 
Thanks for the story -- I've always loved 'The Time

The bad news is that I just called my local Time number, and it's been disconnected. Drat you, New AT&T!

-kevin
 
There used to be all kinds of stuff you could dial up.
the weather, a prayer, music surveys, sports crap, a prostitute... and so on.

But really, so much is available on line, who needs it. Good memories though as a teenager. LOL, with a friend calling and calling, and calling again, lol, and calling again. and being amazed that the recording sounded similar but the new time was updated. (OK, we lived in a neighborhood by the nuclear power plant and had alot of those "slow children" signs on our street. Gimmee a break here)

 
Who needs it!?!

Me, for one.

It's strange, but even though I use the internet for more and more things all the time, I still (used to) call 'Time' on the telephone when the power fails, or when the time changes.

I know that technology brings a lot of improvements to the way we live our lives, but I'm not willing to give up all of the wonderful, comfortable things of the past. And I think many of these zanies here who collect old washers, ironers, record players, and what-all else would agree.

I just want to be able to pick up my phone, dial 255-1234, and hear, "Your telephone company brings you the correct time . . ." And I want that to be forever.

-kevin
 
I conferenced the AT&T time lady in Los Angeles with the Ato

. . . and she was right on the money. Too bad we're going to lose that kind of accuracy. My company BlackBerry and my AT&T cell phone are rarely synced to the atomic clock, even though they claim to be.
 
Another institution bites the dust

I have an atomic wall clock I got on sale at Walgreen's, and a second one, from a thrift store. I find myself getting a little angrier every day when I miss things like we all grew up with. I'm tired of watching things and concepts get thrown away for "progress".
 
58limited . . .

Out of curiosity, I tried calling 214-844-6611, since I figured that Plano probably still had the 214 area code back then. It's still in service - a recording by Bank of America. I was curious to see what I would get if I dialed 972-844-6611, since Plano is now in the 972 area code, and I got the same recording! I thought it was pretty cool that they made sure that number stayed in service with both the new and the old area codes. I guess our time and temperatue nubmers have become somewhat of an institution, and many people still use them today.

I called the number I'm used to from both towns I grew up in, and they are still in service. Very cool. I hope they don't go anywhere anytime soon. It's kind of nice to know they are around.

On a similar note, does anyone remember that to order pretty much anything by phone from a TV ad back in the 1980's, you called 1-800-257-1234? I know that one by heart from the many hours of commercials I watched growing up. When I was a kid, I also used to watch "The Bozo Show" on WGN out of Chicago. They always had commercials for Empire Carpet, which had their phone number in a gingle - 588-2300 - EMPIRE! Now they've also obtained an 800-number with the same digits, and I guess they are selling nation-wide. I'm such a nerd, but this is fun stuff! LOL.

Bryan
 
WOW! I'm glad the Dallas area system is still working. I seem to remember that the system switched from the phone company in the early 1980's, but maybe it was always run by a local bank. The number gave the time and temperature.

I remember my first "phone call" - I must have been four or five. I picked up the phone and dialed a number. A stranger answered and I asked what time it was (I had seen my parents call time and temp and tried to copy them). About this time my older sister walked in and took the phone, apologized to the person I called, and told my parents. I don't remember what followed too well, but I didn't touch the phone for a long time after that...
 
I remember WGN and 588-2300- Empire. watching that on our newly installed cable TV with like 30 channels.

Plano Tx. We used to have relatives that moved down there in like 1974. proudly moving into a quaint new 3 bedroom tract house with a 2 car garage off an alley way in the back, mirror tiles on the wall in the deep shag carpeted living room and central Air. lol. we would go down and go to 6 Flags over Texas and got rained out bad one year. My aunt even took us to 7-11 to get a slushy. A first for me. I was impressed I admit. Then they built a new house in Richardson in 1980.

Another time based song. A well done movie for its time.





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Back in Milwaukee...

The 'Time' number was: 414-844-4444.. Called it tonight, number has been disconnected.

Same with the weather number: 414-936-1212. Nada. I used to call it all the time, when I woke up... especially in the winter--to know how many sweaters to wear. :)

I wonder what the justification of discontinuing these services is. One would think that these 'mammoth machines' that ran the service and are 'breaking down' would have been replaced by computers at some point--years ago. How much was it costing them to run these services--really?

On a similar, yet different note... When one subscribes to 'digital' phone service through one's cable company--you can no longer dial out with a rotary telephone. When I found this out, I was upset!! Receiving calls is no problem. But the 'digital' phone line/system thingy doesn't know how to adapt the analog "clicks" (signal) that a rotary phone sends out. Eventually, Joe and I will be getting rid of the cable phone, so I can put to use my rotary phones. Granted, I do like touch-tone... but there's something cool about actually turning the dial on an old phone every now and then.

~Fred
 
713-555-1212 is now a directory assistance number in Houston. In fact XXX-555-1212 (where XXX = current area code) is directory assistance anywhere.
As for current time, I just look at the time on Satellite TV listings. It's always correct. Or when I used to visit NASA at the Johnson Space Center and they allowed visits to mission control I always set my watch to their clocks. The tour guide always made such a deal about how mission control clocks were "absolutely, positively correct down to the second!"

Way back in 1977 when I moved some of my co workers took me to a midnight showing of "The Rocky Horror Picture Show". I was about as shocked at the movie as Janet in the movie was! But I always DID like the "Time Warp" dance. Just about every type of oddwad is depicted.
 
"In fact XXX-555-1212 (where XXX = current area code) is directory assistance anywhere. "

I thought so. After using 411 for so long I wasn't quite sure though.

Luck you, Allen. I didn't see the movie until like '89. And then, not again until 95' ? When I really got into it.
Loved the house, the music, Barry and Susan, It was just all around good.
 

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