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I had glasses from the Crate and Barrel store that etched like crazy within 6 months.

We had the same thing happen to us with some drink glasses bought at C&B. They only lasted about 2 years before they went opaque. And those glasses weren't cheap either.
 
3 post rinses? Where can I find this in the USA

Any new DW washer in the USA have 3 full after rinses?  My Miele can do this if the soil sensor detects excess soil or suds in the first after rinse but it was made in 2004 and sold to the USA in 2006.  Anyone know of a DW sold in the USA that will do three full after rinses?  If so tell me,  I might want to buy it and stash it away for future use.
 
I have never had a problem with etched glassware.

Probably the only thing that I have done that doesn't go with the above article is I use heated drying and the incoming water temperature is 120. But this dishwasher is from 2002 so I have no idea if it heats it any further (Normal Wash cycle)
 
@jerrod6

One word: DishDrawer.

 

I believe the newer models actually post these "secret" rinses, so you really known which cycle is which. 
 
I'm guilty of pre-rinsing because I only run my dishwasher about once-a-week.

 

Except for the occasional spider or centipede my home is blissfully pest-free and that's how I like it.  I may be excessively paranoid but "better safe than sorry" is my policy when it comes to bugs.
 
Glass etching

Ive had issues with etching years ago when detergents were stronger but found using less detergent stopped this. Scraper, non-rinser here and soft water im sure didnt help either.

Step mom was a pre-washer with soap and the whole bit. She would rinse, wash and sometimes rinse again before placing in the dishwasher. -the dishwasher bottom rack is almost completly rusted through from this practice. -the detergents having nothing to work on but the machine parts. All her glasses were etched with that familiar rainbow hue on them..
 
I own Bosh dishwasher and never rinse dishes before loading it. I just scrape food leftovers. But I see my glasses have discoloration.
 
Reply 25 @washer111

I wish I had kept my dish drawer it made life so much easier and I believe there is a way to fix it in when you have Quartz work surfaces?
Its the only dishwasher to be as good as the Miele I use now.
 
Pre-rinsing dishes because of hard water

Many food, soils, including sugars and acids actually will improve the performance in hard water.

But it’s a free world if you have all that time to waste rinsing dishes and you want to ruin your Plumbing and your dishwasher and your dishes go for it.

We have some customers that have two identical dishwashers, and we’ve been able to prove by putting in identical loads, one rinsed and one not that the dishes actually come out cleaner when they went in dirtier.

John
 

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