Todays Dishwashers
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I have several clients with these GE tall-tub dishwashers and all of them are not happy. Terry has one in his new house in Florida and also, not happy with it's performance. Having had little personal experience with them, I can't say for certain, but I'm staying away. The Smart Dispense system is a curious addition, but I question it's reliability or ability to shake the contents before dispensing - as is necessary with many of the liquid detergents that tend to separate in storage. ;-)
The European/Aus/NZ manufacturers have been making high efficiency machines for decades and seem to have it down pretty well. American manufacturers are still going through what seems to be a few birthing complications to get the designs working right although it seems they're pretty close. The removal of phosphates from dishwasher detergents in 2010 should throw a wrench into the works so it will be interesting to see what changes are yet to come.
Consumer Reports reliability data is as skewed as the rest of their "testing" data. Reader surveys can be interpreted in many ways - just like any political or soft-drink polling data. For example, a simple door-latch defect that requires a service call when a machine is new counts as much in the survey as any other repair - regardless of the cost or complexity of the problem. Their data also doesn't take in to account the "service calls" that are made to instruct the user how to operate the machine or administer a quick 'Hooked on Phonics' course on how to read the manual.
The European/Aus/NZ manufacturers have been making high efficiency machines for decades and seem to have it down pretty well. American manufacturers are still going through what seems to be a few birthing complications to get the designs working right although it seems they're pretty close. The removal of phosphates from dishwasher detergents in 2010 should throw a wrench into the works so it will be interesting to see what changes are yet to come.
Consumer Reports reliability data is as skewed as the rest of their "testing" data. Reader surveys can be interpreted in many ways - just like any political or soft-drink polling data. For example, a simple door-latch defect that requires a service call when a machine is new counts as much in the survey as any other repair - regardless of the cost or complexity of the problem. Their data also doesn't take in to account the "service calls" that are made to instruct the user how to operate the machine or administer a quick 'Hooked on Phonics' course on how to read the manual.
Gansky1,
You are right about the detergent separation and to this day I still shake Soft Scrub before using.....
Oh well Back to the Kenmore with the Giant Tub Design.
You are right about the detergent separation and to this day I still shake Soft Scrub before using.....
Oh well Back to the Kenmore with the Giant Tub Design.
Have a HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!
Thank you!
I didn't have cake yet because I was in the doctors office getting my moon pies injected..... plumping them up to feel better.
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No lie.
I didn't have cake yet because I was in the doctors office getting my moon pies injected..... plumping them up to feel better.
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Believe me doc, that little thing? I wont even feel it.
You? Such a burly macho manly-man (NOTE: ZERO SARCASM HERE) taking a prickin' in the ..... OMG!
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You? Such a burly macho manly-man (NOTE: ZERO SARCASM HERE) taking a prickin' in the ..... OMG!
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Toggle's,
my dishwashing arm is trying to catch up to you ==========>
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my dishwashing arm is trying to catch up to you ==========>
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pierreandreply4
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dishwasher that i have today
hello
this is the dishwasher tha i use today here is a picture
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this is the dishwasher tha i use today here is a picture
spankomatic
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Maytag = No,had too many repairs,did not load well,long cycles.
Bosch = No,does not load well,cycles are too long
Fischer Pakel = No, too many reports of repairs.
Miele = Not sure,never used one.
GE = No,if it has the pop up wash tower in the middle.
Kenmore = Yes,very happy with my last Kenmore Elite portable.
Easy loading,liked the silverware basket,shorter
wash cycles,cleaned well.
Kitchenaid = Yes,very happy with all of the Kitchenaids I have
ever used. Easy loading,shorter cycles,quiet.
It is rare that you hear bad stories about Kitchen
aids.
Things to consider:
Noise= Will it be near a tv? Do you run your dishwasher just
before you go to bed? Get the quiet pack insulaton if
noise is an issue.
Loading = Where are you going to put the long spatuala,the
large pot and the fragile wine glass. Adjustable
racks,utensil trays,wine glass holders can make
your dishwash much more user friendly. I have found
I like silverware baskets that are long and run along
the front of the lower rack the best. Then I can put
a big pot right in the middle of the lower rack.
Cycles = I like short cycles with sani wash feature. They are
faster and hot!
Stainless vs Plastic : Because I do not pre rinse anything. I
toss red sauce and all right in I prefer
Stainless. My GE platic tub was always
orange.
Filters = It makes a difference! Be sure to get one with good
filtration. Bottom of the line models you will have
chunks of food left on your dishes.
I use a lot of different dishwashers. I cook a lot at different peoples houses so I get exposed to some different brands. Hope the info is helpful.
Jim
Bosch = No,does not load well,cycles are too long
Fischer Pakel = No, too many reports of repairs.
Miele = Not sure,never used one.
GE = No,if it has the pop up wash tower in the middle.
Kenmore = Yes,very happy with my last Kenmore Elite portable.
Easy loading,liked the silverware basket,shorter
wash cycles,cleaned well.
Kitchenaid = Yes,very happy with all of the Kitchenaids I have
ever used. Easy loading,shorter cycles,quiet.
It is rare that you hear bad stories about Kitchen
aids.
Things to consider:
Noise= Will it be near a tv? Do you run your dishwasher just
before you go to bed? Get the quiet pack insulaton if
noise is an issue.
Loading = Where are you going to put the long spatuala,the
large pot and the fragile wine glass. Adjustable
racks,utensil trays,wine glass holders can make
your dishwash much more user friendly. I have found
I like silverware baskets that are long and run along
the front of the lower rack the best. Then I can put
a big pot right in the middle of the lower rack.
Cycles = I like short cycles with sani wash feature. They are
faster and hot!
Stainless vs Plastic : Because I do not pre rinse anything. I
toss red sauce and all right in I prefer
Stainless. My GE platic tub was always
orange.
Filters = It makes a difference! Be sure to get one with good
filtration. Bottom of the line models you will have
chunks of food left on your dishes.
I use a lot of different dishwashers. I cook a lot at different peoples houses so I get exposed to some different brands. Hope the info is helpful.
Jim
I have a GE very similar to the one you pictured
CleanteamofNY, I a the GE a model or two down from the one you pictured. I'm very fussy about my dishes and as I have previously posted it is extremely rare to have anything come out of this machine that is other than perfectly clean.
Personally I'd stay away from any machine with built in detergent dispensers. Seems to me a problem waiting to happen, plus I like to control how much detergent I use. Sometimes I cut back if the load is small or fairly clean, and double up in other situations. I guess we as a culture are getting too lazy to reach over and pick up a box and pour some detergent in a cup. Just a few decades ago 90% of the population stood there and hand washed the dishes.
CleanteamofNY, I a the GE a model or two down from the one you pictured. I'm very fussy about my dishes and as I have previously posted it is extremely rare to have anything come out of this machine that is other than perfectly clean.
Personally I'd stay away from any machine with built in detergent dispensers. Seems to me a problem waiting to happen, plus I like to control how much detergent I use. Sometimes I cut back if the load is small or fairly clean, and double up in other situations. I guess we as a culture are getting too lazy to reach over and pick up a box and pour some detergent in a cup. Just a few decades ago 90% of the population stood there and hand washed the dishes.
spankomatic
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Badata, Got to agree with you. My all time favorite dishwasher was a 1978 Kitchenaid Superba. Not sure what model it was. A KD something... It was by far the easiest to load,cleaned extreamly well,never had to repair it.
Jim
Jim
It's done!
I was torn between Bosch model# SHE55M06UC and the Kenmore model# 13789 and the Bosch nearly won me over
but the delivery would have been on the 5th of Feb., and that was out of the question!
So the Kenmore won all because delivery is tomorrow and the size of the tub is way bigger than the Bosch.
I was torn between Bosch model# SHE55M06UC and the Kenmore model# 13789 and the Bosch nearly won me over
but the delivery would have been on the 5th of Feb., and that was out of the question!
So the Kenmore won all because delivery is tomorrow and the size of the tub is way bigger than the Bosch.
A friend of mine has about a 3-year old GE Profile PDW7800 dishwasher. He's pretty disapppointed with the performance on really grungy grungy stuff. And this was with Pots & Pans and prewash cycle/option selected. Any ideas? Kinda goes against some GE TT experiences mentioned here. Andrew, thoughts???
YAY Larry, ya got my model!!!
The electronic age
Bob,
I was really rooting for the Bosch because of the door seems to have very sturdy feel to it.
To explain; the door on the Kenmore has a flexi feel while the Bosch is like one sheet of 1/4" steel plate, very stiff from corner to corner.
Not only that, the Bosch also has a cleaner look than the Kenmore with a countdown timer that I really wanted in a dishwasher.
Oh well, If Barbie don't like it, she'll send Ken to return it!
Since we have the same machine just wish me luck and trade with me a few tips for best performances.
Thanks.
Bob,
I was really rooting for the Bosch because of the door seems to have very sturdy feel to it.
To explain; the door on the Kenmore has a flexi feel while the Bosch is like one sheet of 1/4" steel plate, very stiff from corner to corner.
Not only that, the Bosch also has a cleaner look than the Kenmore with a countdown timer that I really wanted in a dishwasher.
Oh well, If Barbie don't like it, she'll send Ken to return it!
Since we have the same machine just wish me luck and trade with me a few tips for best performances.
Thanks.
The unit:
I kinda like it, it reminds me of an i-pod in a way.
Yes it does, are the controls very sensitive Bob?
The few reviews states that.
The few reviews states that.
I've seen those comments about the sensitive controls. Umm, lower bellyis about the level of start. I've never had a problem brushing up against the machine and starting it like I've seen people comment. I actually like the panel. I turn off all the lights when I have all 4 options selected, cycle, and blue running lights lol. Kinda cool!!
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