TurboZone Reach

[logixx]

Seems Whirlpool added some new jets to their Kenmore Elite models. The new ones now spray up around the edge of the upper rack, when TurboZone is selected. The new models also have a Micro Clean filter (looks to be the same as the KitchenAid self-clean filter), minimun wash temp of 120F (compared to 104F on many other models) and a model with window seems to be on its way as well. Cycle times and water consumption seem okay, but there's also a slightly cheaper model with cycles from 3 to 4.5 hours and high water consumption.

Below is the link to Kenmore for the current TOL model, along with videos and the user manual. It it won't work, the model number is 14833.

http://www.kenmore.com/kenmore-elit...p-02214833000P?prdNo=2&blockNo=2&blockType=G2

 

[appnut]

My concern is just what combo52 posted yesterday about WP built dishwashers with alternating spray arms and the major issues with the distribution valves and motor assemblies causing significant damage in homes that he pointed out in the inside Maytag dishwashers thread yesterday. 

 

[appnut]

Default wash water temps

One thing I like about the Kenmore is the default wash water temperature is 120 degrees.   Current KA Maytag, and WP manuals state 105.  "High temp" wash on KA is 129 WP and Maytag is 130.  For any of these, the only way you get 140 degree wash temp is to select the 155 sani-rinse option. Kenmore high-temp is 140 degrees. 

 

[jerrod6]

I think you probably need some type of strongly built valves and electronic controls or something to prevent problems with alternating spray arms.  My DW bought in 2006 has them and I like it because it allows less water use, less water noise, but still gets the job done.  Yes the cycles are longer but certainly there are no 3 or 4 hour cycles on the machine.  The longest one is 2 hour 19 minutes and that is using 170F water in the wash.  My daily cycle is about 1 hour 30 minutes using 3.1 gallons and daily loads come out clean.

 

So I think alternating spray arms might be OK if the system is constructed well. 

 

[murando531]

Has there ever been a machine that uses a reversing pump to alternate water flow? Much like older machines did to drain, using check balls to stop water from escaping from the pressure of the recirculation when washing. If not, it seems that would simplify the moving parts required, and I'm sure that even if the pressure were a little lower going to the upper arm, it would still clean well, seeing that most modern machines haven't much pressure to the upper arms to begin with.

I feel like years ago I was told that Frigidaires used two wash pumps and alternated between them in their early 2000s machines, but that may not be true, and I haven't found any schematics to prove or disprove it. It also would seem a bit overkill as well, and would increase production costs to mount three pumps to one machine.

 

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