When used as directed Bleach nor any other laundry product will harm your washer. There is a Rumor that bleach and other laundry products will damage your washer. If misused any product can do that. However use of a laundry product as directed will NOT cause harm to a washer. If that was so I would be the first to have it to happen.I have had NO such problems ever due to the use of bleach or any other laundry product. And in this plant THEY ARE MISUSED! Greatly. Strong Alkali products are used on a daily basis in home machines t. And extreme amounts of super strong bleach some 4x what you have at home are also used and I have NEVER had a machine fail due to the use of such products. I do not expect a home machine to last more than a year under the extreme conditions they are put thu. However to this date all have lasted at least 2 years and some much longer than that. Most see a avg of 300 loads per mo. and are still running when retired.
Using bleach WILL NOT HARM your washer
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supremewhirlpol
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Lee, I'd say given that you work with this stuff everyday, you know what your talking about! You go you additive expert you!!!!
Ummm Lee, What type of machines do you use at home? Do you have a big 80LB 3 phase commercial machine in your house?
Ummm Lee, What type of machines do you use at home? Do you have a big 80LB 3 phase commercial machine in your house?
I have a Gallery there too and love it
It is a older model with contols on back but does a nice job. I t is the same model as the one that lasted 5 years here. I got it at the same time for less than $300.oo thu the buying group discount. It has had a "NORMAL life and I have so far never had a problem at all with it.
It is a older model with contols on back but does a nice job. I t is the same model as the one that lasted 5 years here. I got it at the same time for less than $300.oo thu the buying group discount. It has had a "NORMAL life and I have so far never had a problem at all with it.
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Would you know about...
or know about Polymer Enzymes? Is it a general name for different things or just one thing? I tried to get a hold of you when I was in Arlington, but the computer at the Econo Lodge in Arlington was useless. Is poly-enzyme in hth the same in laundry detergent and spa/pool poly-enzyme? I am glad the LCB debate is over. I have five bottles at my house. I have an LG washer and I hope it lasts at least five years, but so far so good.[this post was last edited: 7/23/2010-19:32]
or know about Polymer Enzymes? Is it a general name for different things or just one thing? I tried to get a hold of you when I was in Arlington, but the computer at the Econo Lodge in Arlington was useless. Is poly-enzyme in hth the same in laundry detergent and spa/pool poly-enzyme? I am glad the LCB debate is over. I have five bottles at my house. I have an LG washer and I hope it lasts at least five years, but so far so good.[this post was last edited: 7/23/2010-19:32]
Could be wrong but think a name for a lot of things
this link will help.
sorry I missed you would have loved to meet you and tour our plant. You were only about 5 mins from here. Did you get what you were looking for ? If not I will help you .
http://gozips.uakron.edu/~bimin/polymer-enzyme-assembling.pdf
this link will help.
sorry I missed you would have loved to meet you and tour our plant. You were only about 5 mins from here. Did you get what you were looking for ? If not I will help you .
http://gozips.uakron.edu/~bimin/polymer-enzyme-assembling.pdf
What model are the lg you have
I understand they are better now.. The two I had leaked from day one. not a problem here but in a home setting would be a real problem. Most of the problems we had were the contol boards. They did do a nice job of washing, I just did not like the way they did it. I am looking at getting 2 more home machines soon, This time either Huebsch or Speed Queen they are both almost the same machine and thru contract sales we can get them for mega $$ off. This is the Huebsch model but the speed queen is almost the exact same with a black control panel..
I understand they are better now.. The two I had leaked from day one. not a problem here but in a home setting would be a real problem. Most of the problems we had were the contol boards. They did do a nice job of washing, I just did not like the way they did it. I am looking at getting 2 more home machines soon, This time either Huebsch or Speed Queen they are both almost the same machine and thru contract sales we can get them for mega $$ off. This is the Huebsch model but the speed queen is almost the exact same with a black control panel..
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LG:
This is the one I got. I had a choice of going to Sears at 4 a.m. and hope I get lucky or get in LG2016 and picking it up in three days. I haven't had a problem with it so far(washers don't last long here). My last one lasted 4 years here and even the enamel was etched off in some places and rusting bad(in the tub). I hope this one lasted as long. The only thing is it has a metallic smell to it, but that is probably no big deal. It was cheap. It would have been nice to meet you. I stayed at what used to be the Country Inn and Suits, but never again, it's a nasty place now.
This is the one I got. I had a choice of going to Sears at 4 a.m. and hope I get lucky or get in LG2016 and picking it up in three days. I haven't had a problem with it so far(washers don't last long here). My last one lasted 4 years here and even the enamel was etched off in some places and rusting bad(in the tub). I hope this one lasted as long. The only thing is it has a metallic smell to it, but that is probably no big deal. It was cheap. It would have been nice to meet you. I stayed at what used to be the Country Inn and Suits, but never again, it's a nasty place now.
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It was all good. Motel sucked, went to all the places. Do you work on Cooper St? I tried to put the picture of the LG on here but it was huge, and couldn't crop it or anything. I would rather have a different washer, but the price was right.
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used LCB
I finally got my owners manual out from under the washer leg, and replaced it with cardboard. The owner manual said to use beach, so I did, and it worked.
I finally got my owners manual out from under the washer leg, and replaced it with cardboard. The owner manual said to use beach, so I did, and it worked.
For most of the history of modern American washing machines, all parts that have contact with "wash" water, are designed to withstand corrosion by alkaline substances under normal use.
You can read owner's manual for washing machines going back to the 1920's, 1930's and so forth touting their ability to resist bleach, washing soda, and the other equally harsh substances frequently used to clean clothing.
Acids are another story, including the gallons of white vinegar Amercians seem now to be pouring into their machines.
You can read owner's manual for washing machines going back to the 1920's, 1930's and so forth touting their ability to resist bleach, washing soda, and the other equally harsh substances frequently used to clean clothing.
Acids are another story, including the gallons of white vinegar Amercians seem now to be pouring into their machines.
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It takes me FOREVER to go through a gallon of white vinegar. The dispenser only holds a small amt. It too is probably so diluted it doesn't matter.
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I also found out that I was overloading the machine. Now my clothes don't need to be ironed. (I didn't cram the machine full with all my might, no worries), but it went up to at least 17 loads a week. It was so hard to get it level, that when we move, the W/D will probably stay in the house.
I also found out that I was overloading the machine. Now my clothes don't need to be ironed. (I didn't cram the machine full with all my might, no worries), but it went up to at least 17 loads a week. It was so hard to get it level, that when we move, the W/D will probably stay in the house.
Not a blanket OK
The manuals for the Bosch Axxis and Miele washers specifically warn NOT to use chlorine bleach in those washers, and the warranty will be voided if you do use it.
It is a known fact that stainless steel is particularly susceptible to attack from chlorine. Personally I would NOT risk using chlorine bleach in any modern front loader, unless you are prepared to replace seals and bearings on a regular basis.
Commercial and industrial machines are built with special protection for seals and bearings, and are made with more serviceable bearings to begin with.
Your mileage may vary. I have never used chlorine bleach in my Neptune and have had zero problems with the seals, the bearings, the door gasket, and have not had any problem with mold or odor either. That's after 10 years of an average of five loads a week.
American washing machine mfgs provide bleach dispensers in their machines because Americans are addicted to the stuff, and sales would flop if there were not such a dispenser. So, the machine dies earlier than it otherwise would. The mfg gets to sell the customer another machine. Result: even more sales.
Hot water, enzymes, oxygen bleach, and phosphates are a MUCH better way to clean fabrics without damaging them or the machine with corrosive, toxic, malodorous chlorine bleach.
Save it for the toilet!
The manuals for the Bosch Axxis and Miele washers specifically warn NOT to use chlorine bleach in those washers, and the warranty will be voided if you do use it.
It is a known fact that stainless steel is particularly susceptible to attack from chlorine. Personally I would NOT risk using chlorine bleach in any modern front loader, unless you are prepared to replace seals and bearings on a regular basis.
Commercial and industrial machines are built with special protection for seals and bearings, and are made with more serviceable bearings to begin with.
Your mileage may vary. I have never used chlorine bleach in my Neptune and have had zero problems with the seals, the bearings, the door gasket, and have not had any problem with mold or odor either. That's after 10 years of an average of five loads a week.
American washing machine mfgs provide bleach dispensers in their machines because Americans are addicted to the stuff, and sales would flop if there were not such a dispenser. So, the machine dies earlier than it otherwise would. The mfg gets to sell the customer another machine. Result: even more sales.
Hot water, enzymes, oxygen bleach, and phosphates are a MUCH better way to clean fabrics without damaging them or the machine with corrosive, toxic, malodorous chlorine bleach.
Save it for the toilet!
all the more reasons NOT to buy bosch or Miele
I would not have a wahser that is not made well enough to withstand bleach.Nor should anyone else waste money on a machine that a mfg. does not think there machine is built well enough to withstand use of bleach.
I would not have a wahser that is not made well enough to withstand bleach.Nor should anyone else waste money on a machine that a mfg. does not think there machine is built well enough to withstand use of bleach.
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Where I live:
bleach or no bleach won't be the problem. I think hard water will be the death of my machine. We don't drink the water out of the tap here.
bleach or no bleach won't be the problem. I think hard water will be the death of my machine. We don't drink the water out of the tap here.
