Using bleach WILL NOT HARM your washer

[sudsman]

Amy

Hard water can cause more problems than poeple realize. Not only in the washer but hot water heaters will not last as long and pipes will "cake" up with minerals. I have known cases where even drain pipes were effected. A water softener will pay for itself in the long run. And can be rented too.

 

[amyswasher]

We keep thinking we are going to move, then we don't. If I know we were going to be in the house for 5 years, we would have had a softener added.

 

[launderess]

For The Record

Only older Bosch units restricted the use of chlorine bleach in their washers with the threat of voiding warranty. Miele strongly urged users not to use chlorine bleach, and it really wasn't required because of boil wash temps the unit could reach. However Miele USA customer support told me that using LCB once in a great while wouldn't harm my vintage Miele. Indeed it probably was the only sure fire way of dealing with a really bad case of mould.

However being as all this may most newer models of Bosch washing machines allow the use of LCB. Miele's offerings for the USA market also gave up and now even include a dispenser for bleach.

In both cases, both Bosch and Miele washers it was not only the stainless steel wash tubs that could be affected by heavy use of chlorine bleach, but the various sensors located between the drums as well.

When one simply has to bleach something, say items with stains no amount of boiling with oxygen bleach will shift, use the Whirlpool portable or Hoover TT. Those units were designed to deal with chlorine bleach.

 

[iheartmaytag]

My co-workers Fisher & Pakel TL machine specifically forbids the use of bleach with the threat of THE VOIDED WARRANTY.
She said that didn't bother her that much, as she didn't use bleach very often anyway.

 

[DADoES]

 
Which model? Both of my F&Ps allow bleach and even have instructions in the manual advising how to add it.

 

[favorit]

Miele and LCB

Miele commercial frontloaders -

 

[favorit]

LCB dispenser

here it is :

 

[favorit]

as LCB is flushed during the 1st rinse fill, they recommend to programme at least 4 rinses :

 

[favorit]

how to programme/trick the machine

I wish also current residential mieles were so flexible !

 

[amyswasher]

Would you by chance know how much salt softeners go for? It would at least be triple here(mileage and everything). Culligan is the only company that will come out here. They are running a special for $19 a month for three months(installation and mileage not included).

 

[sudsman]

amy

I use culligan also and trust them. there are others but they just are not as good. Rainsoft is ok but not as good as culligan.

 

[joe_in_philly]

Do you mean whole house water softeners? Sears sells them, although you would want to have a plumber install it. You will also probably require some additional plumbing work to at least put an unsoftened cold line to the kitchen for drinking and possibly even a bypass for water used for irrigation.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/s_10153_12605_Appliances_Water Softeners_Water Softeners?keyword=water softener&sLevel=2&prop17=water%20softeners

 

[iheartmaytag]

Culligan is one of the best. If not for the product, for their service. Read the fine print, after the $19 per month you are usually locked into a contract for around $70 - $120 per month. Also, many times with the trial period, if you have it removed after the three months, you have to pay the install charges. Not to say this is wrong, just be aware.

Rainsoft, at least in our area, is very high pressure over priced sales. Think a Kirby salesman on steroids if you let them in the door they will not leave without a signed contract. Make up the guest room.

The system I am looking at with Culligan has a RO (Reverse Osmosis) drinking water system for the kitchen also hooked up to the ice maker.

 

[amyswasher]

I saw the Culligan ad also. But I live a 100 miles where this special would happen. In my area they would honor the $19 for three months, but mileage and installation would be extra.

 

[iheartmaytag]

Amy

That's the nice thing about Culligan, they are up front with everything so you know what you are getting.

Now where my Aunt and Uncle live in Missouri, they say that Culligan won't honor their warranty unless you use their salt in the system. I don't know if that means their salt service, or if you just have to be careful to pick up Culligan salt at the Piggly-Wiggly.

They too live approximately 70 miles from the nearest big town so mileage is tacked on to everything. My uncle is a big Do-it-myselfer, but with his advancing Alzheimer's my Aunt is in charge of getting more of the house stuff done.

 

[amyswasher]

it's true

They are up front with everything. They used to have a local dealer before I moved here, but that was a long time ago.

 

[paulc]

I read through my Miele instruction book and it does not say that chlorine bleach should not be used. It does state that you should not use "colour run" treatments in the machine though.

 

[lavamat_jon]

I imagine the Miele and Bosch machines don't recommend using bleach more out of the fact it's not necessary, rather than the fact it will damage the machine.

I've never used (chlorine) bleach on laundry at all, and I'm often complimented on my whites...

Jon