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Maybe one of the members with a gigantic box of unidentifiable knobs could help you out, I like the woodgraining on the metal cabinet. Is it actually from the '70s though?

I'm still sorry the Pineapple Patti Antique Mall ditched their two '60s Coldspots a couple of years ago.
 
vintage!

that looks much older than the'70s,looks more mid-'50s to me-would be cool to
get it running properly again,sounds like the compressor is not starting
could have a bad run capacitor or might need the compressor"bumped"
loose if it is stiff from setting unused for a long time...
(can give some unsticking methods if you like)
 
Ralph we actually have a 10,000btu Kenmore that I mount in the living room window from about May or June, until October. The weather down here spins on a dime. This summer, we had a week in the triple digits....as high as 114 on one day, and then another couple weeks (spread out) in the high 90's, low 100's.

So yes, I would actually use it, and yes, it would be yet another great vintage item to not only collect, but to put back into service. If I could find a safe way to transport that OH a/c unit....I'd go for it.

Re: Knobs...
Your local hardware store, as well as radioshack, will have knobs that attach to D shaped shafts like that with a set screw in from the side. They're cheap and come in a variety of shapes and sizes. They may not be chrome, but there are some great black versions that are very old school.
 
 That unit looks very similar to a 1954 Admiral air conditioner my parents had. It was a wall unit but the metal case on the inside had the same kind of wood graining on it.

 The front coils on your unit look very clean. Where is the filter that goes in there?

 We still have a lot of older office buildings down here that use water cooling towers. You can tell a building is water cooled just by walking into it. How can you tell?
 The building is only moderately cooled and is pretty humid inside. The mark of water tower cooling in a humid area.
 
This is interesting, Todd. I suppose these were always very disposeable, so that may be why there aren`t to many around. My wife and I were out house hunting one day and came across a Beaux Arts house with lots of cool and vintage stuff inside. The sunporch had been converted into a poolroom and in one of the windows was what I remember to be a Vornado With the two big circular vents in a dark aqua color. I really wanted it at the time, but it got away. Thats about the only one I have seen in recent years that was worth noting. I think there were some other members here that had several.
 
Well, I actually don't know how old that GE is. It is at least as old as the 1970's. I believe the patio was enclosed in the mid-60's. That's when a lot of other work was done to the house. But of course I don't know where the GE A/C came from. It might have been used before it was installed in its present location high on the wall.

Got me where the filters are supposed to go. I have looked over the inside portion of the unit, as well as what I can see of the outside, and I don't see any removable filters anywhere. I was wondering if they simply were slid in front of the unit, behind the first set of fixed louvers and after the set of three adjustable louvers, but on closer inspection it's clear there isn't enough room up there for filters. Plus there are little cutouts on the first screen to allow one to rotate the three circular louvers to direct air in any desired direction (an idea modern A/C's could emulate).

Probably if there were filters, they slid underneath the outside of the unit. It's difficult to get a good view of that part, since it sits only about a foot above yet another roof, but it's possible that the filters had frames that clipped into two large cutouts underneath the outside of the unit.

In other words, I don't know, and I may never know for sure until I pull the unit down and fix it.

A manual would be nice.

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How vintage ya lookin' for?

I have a Whirlpool at the farm, I'm unsure of the BTU's right now, I suspect it is from the early 70's. It's a big old honkin' thing.
 
drmitch, that Vornado you saw sounds like the same version that was on ebay a number of years ago. Definately a cool looking unit.
 
 Heat Exchangers

 The insides of the building weren't overly humid, but more humid than buildings air conditioned with conventional air conditioners. They also have a certain odor to them.
  ExxonMobil has an old building built in 1954 in the Greenway Plaza area. I went to lunch with a friend that worked there.  The lobby of this building looks like it was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright.  The walls are all "blonde" wood paneling.  And this building definitely has the water cooled odor to it as well as the increased humidity. It's still less humid than the outdoors are, but still more humid than ones with newer a/c.
 
The reason you don't see many antique room air conditioners is that it's simply not cost-effective to restore them.First they're not efficient and drink electricity,next,to prevent you from repairing them,parts are not available and the refrigerants they use(R-12 and R-22) are obsolete and have been eliminated from production. I do not know of any conversion to modern refrigerants(unlike restored refrigerators).
 
true about some of the older A/Cs using quite a bit of power-a big 1958 era GE
i have(forget the BTU rating,but it's 18,000 IIRC)pulls about 12a at 230v-it has
a huge 4pole 1725 rpm compressor and the fan motor is a shaded pole type located
in the inside return air stream,adding it's heat to the cooling load..
For garage cooling,i don't use it that often but it is a real treat to run-just
blasts out super-cooled air and runs with such ease and non-chalance,it's very '50s
my newer A/Cs in general use seem to be much more efficient-77westy,'84 WP,92 WP
'98 fedders.
As far as alternative refrigerants go,i know propane is often used in car A/C
systems that originally used R12-it is said to work great,but there are some
hazards regarding the flammabilty of propane LOL.
I used to have people bring me several A/Cs a year for repair,but since around
2000 when the cheapo korean,then chinese A/Cs started really flooding in,
most people won't spend more than $100 to fix a real one-they just head for
walmart...
 
Just a smidge of propane is used in an automotive R12 replacement product called by the trade name of "Freeze 12." It's mostly just R134a though. I've used it before, and it cools/performs just fine....but I also get good results when converting an R12 system over to straight R134a.

Hopefully I'll come across one of the cool looking 50's era window a/c units one of these days. I'd be fun to have one.
 
Window Mounting Frame

I have no idea why this system got tossed aside.

It really is very clever and can hold quite a bit of weight. This mounting frame was used for the 6,500 BTU through the 18,000 BTU series. No Brackets or supports to screw into the side of the house.

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Old Window AC units is a regional thing

In less corrosive areas collecting/using an old AC window unit makes more sense:

In the deep south an AC unit can see a lot of usage and humidity compared to say a Coastal California city.

A friend in Camarillo Calif had a early 1970's window AC unit he placed in a window only for the summer time, its usage was little thus the cost of operating not so bad.

Here in the deep south in my House still being rebuilt due to Katrina; my big 5 ton AC unit needs major repairs, thus I have several 10+ EER little 5500 BTUH units to "get by". Running one "little guy" wide open drops the humidity down in major way. Running 3 wide open is not enough on a hot day. One unit running wide open probably sees more hours here than a dryer/cooler area.

As far as how long a new AC unit lasts;

(1) a post Katrina fall 2005 GE 5500BTUH unit made in China lasted 2 years before fatigue failure and low gas.

(2) a post Katrina fall 2005 Maytag 5500BTUH unit made overeseas lasted 2 years before fatigue failure and low gas.

(3) a pre Katrina Whirlpool 5400 BTUH as "spare AC" installed in the Fall of 2005 still runs well, it is made in the USA but has an LG compressor.

(4) a pre Katrina Sears/Whirlpool 5200 BTUH unit installed in 1997 lasted until 2007 before replacement. The inner bushing on the fan would lock up, to oil it required removing it from the window, taking the whole unit apart. this was livable until a reoil would only last 3 weeks, the bushing was worn. One had all these crumbling styrofoam pieces. The outside aluminum fins were 1/2 gone due to salt air. An exact fit fan motor was over 100 bucks; thus the unit got scrapped.

(5) a Zenith (rebranded LG ) AC unit was bought in 2007 to replace (4); it works well and time will tell how long it lasts.

(6) A Sears (whirlpool) 8000 BTUH 9.7 EER AC unit I got in 1994 works well in a barn I have away from this area. It sees little usage; it has no corrosion issues. It has a chance of lasting decades. Its bearings are also easy to oil

(7) a AC unit is my business's shed is only used a few times a year. It is a late 1970's window AC 6000 BTUH unit with woodgrain. Its EER is about 6. Its usage is so low that replacement has no return. It has to have its fan oiled every few years, but is old school and the motors bearings are easy to get to.

As far as repairs; nobody locally can fix a window unit with low gas and it make any sense money wise.

With my businesses one window unit used for peak times; repairing the whirlpool box that has a 18,000 to 21,000 size was tried, and one spent more cost than a new AC unit. Thus with this unit one got use to buying one every 3 to 4 years; disposables. Even if one has the older unit "fixed" after years; the fins are usually a mess and disposible.

The super thin aluminum and salt air and high humidity makes for massive corrosion. The newer units that "splash back" condensed water on the outside coil seem to corrode way faster here. It is not just the repair cost here; it is fixing a unit that is degraded with missing fin area.

In the long term running a window ac unit is expensive compared to central air; and running a degraded one is worse. The degraded units just run more; put out less cooling and draw the same power.

Running a brand new 5500 BTUH window unit here wide open in the summer will use in 2 months the same cost in electricity as the units cost. ie one burns 100 bucks of electricity in 2 months with a 100 buck ac unit. With a unit low on gas or with degraded fins that are mostly gone, you still burn through 100 bucks worth of elecricity here in two months; but get 1/2 the cooling. A brand new unit recovers its cost in 1/2 year.

Running an old window AC unit here with an EER of 6 is like driving a car that gets 6 miles per gallon, maybe ok for "crusin the coast" with an old 1950's hot rod car, less practical on a daily basis.

In many window AC units here that I have removed for cleaning, the newer ones seem to be more disposable. ie thinner aluminum fins, water splash design for higher EER, GLUED IN STYROFOAM, pressed in pieces, riveted parts, inner bearing not easy to get to at all. A typical "failure mode" is the inner bearing has water enter; the steel shaft rusts and now it has little clearance in the brass bushing. One can spend 1 hour in time to take the whole unit apart to polish the shaft. Then one has to glue the broken styrofoam pieces; bolt the ground off riveted pieces. An older unit often was built with more fan area and non spashing and thicker fins and easy access to oil the fan motor.

 

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