arbilab
Well-known member
There's a strong engineering bent to AW, by hobby, profession or both. What do y'all think about the revelation that VW diesels are jiggered to produce one result favorable to government numbers and another favorable to customer experience?
On the one hand it's ingenious. The car knows when it's being tested and kicks in all its environazi hardware. Then when it's on the road it shuts that off and drives well. Who's the loser?
Obviously the g'ment. But to what extent? I mean, washers are Star-tested on the "normal" cycle so that cycle uses water roughly equivalent to pygmy-goat breath while the enduser can get 'standard' results by choosing anything other than "normal".
The rumoured enduser class-action lawsuits won't hold water IMO. They got the performance they wanted and the *imaginary* save-the-galaxy emissions. If they seriously thought buying a VW diesel was going to refreeze arctic ice shelves, they were deluded by their own imaginations.
There's a tinge of fraud to VW's marketing, but really folks, what marketing is without a tinge of fraud?
After owning VWs from 1964, 65, 67, 68, 59, 62, 74, 80, 82 and watching the absolute quality deteriorate in every generation, I cut their water off in 86 and bought a Toyota. Which I still have.
To me, "German engineering" is that which is designed to separate you from your money if you're gullible enough to fall for it.... more than 9 times.
On the one hand it's ingenious. The car knows when it's being tested and kicks in all its environazi hardware. Then when it's on the road it shuts that off and drives well. Who's the loser?
Obviously the g'ment. But to what extent? I mean, washers are Star-tested on the "normal" cycle so that cycle uses water roughly equivalent to pygmy-goat breath while the enduser can get 'standard' results by choosing anything other than "normal".
The rumoured enduser class-action lawsuits won't hold water IMO. They got the performance they wanted and the *imaginary* save-the-galaxy emissions. If they seriously thought buying a VW diesel was going to refreeze arctic ice shelves, they were deluded by their own imaginations.
There's a tinge of fraud to VW's marketing, but really folks, what marketing is without a tinge of fraud?
After owning VWs from 1964, 65, 67, 68, 59, 62, 74, 80, 82 and watching the absolute quality deteriorate in every generation, I cut their water off in 86 and bought a Toyota. Which I still have.
To me, "German engineering" is that which is designed to separate you from your money if you're gullible enough to fall for it.... more than 9 times.