VZUG Adora SLQ - impressions

[chestermikeuk]

Spins

Hi Mr Wash, have experienced a couple of unbalanced spins, usually with heavy absorbant clothing, bath robes / mats etc...and even then it does a good job before the VAS kicks in...what usually happens is it does a couple of interims slow rev spins, bit faster than distribution, then it starts to spin and senses the imbalance, you will then hear the cold water valves open and close pretty rapidly as the VAS system injects water at high pressure into the large drum baffles, this carries on until the drum is stable and then it proceeds to spin..heres a Zug diagram!!

 

[rudin1969]

Yes, the 'Advance' feature is very handy indeed.
The Wetclean programme uses the 'jet' system and very brief partial tumbles. More water is used than in the Miele handwash programme. In general, my impression is that the Adora is less of a water miser than Miele washers
I've taken a gamble with regard to the warranty etc... , Carlo. Fingers crossed.

 

[chestermikeuk]

>>> Advance to Next Sequence...!!!

Hi Carlo, this one one of the features I most like, if you are around and want a very quick wash then you can simply press the >>> and it will advance to the next wash sequence (wash to rinse, rinse to spin etc) or to stop...this machine is very flexible with the programming, the MaytagAsko is good but this is better!!! you can either press one touchpad and your`e washing or simply change time / temp / spin speed with the touch of a couple extra touchpads!!!

 

[mrwash]

Hi chestermikeuk,

thx for the explanation. I already knew that diagram but you know...every manufacturer promises the best, so it would be interesting if this system works well in real life. Maybe you have an unbalanced load within the next week. i would appreciate it so much if you could do a vid of an unbalanced spin cycle turning into a balanced one due to the VAS.
As you may know I own a Miele Navitronic and in my opinion the balance sensor is not the best one.

 

[foraloysius]

Yes Mike, it says indeed "Favorite" on that Unimatic. I wouldn't want to put dishes in it though as in AEG's Favorit!

 

[mynameismiele]

Wish i had that washer.

Sick washer Mike, Like the drum, nice big amount of holes, very big, and silent!.

 

[favorit]

same programmes, different times

Rudin's Adora seems faster than Mike one. Maybe Mike did you set the euro mode while Rudin you left the default swiss mode with those very fast cycles ?

Also noticed on v-zug.ch even the latest Unimatics frontloaders (commercial versions of the Adora) are no more heavy like tanks (from 130 Kg to 78) while the Unimatic toploaders are still 130 kg heavy.
Maybe having the new balance system, those heavy counterweights are useless. I don't want to think they are no more well built at least as the Little Giants (these maybe are even cheaper than Unimatics...)

 

[DysonAnimal]

'...of course we`ll have to get you well versed in the a

Now, really, Mike...I AM well-versed in the art of washers!

(Now that I've learnt that Lenor is softener, not detergent...)

 

[supremewhirlpol]

Does anyone have an actual picture of the Blue V-Zug FL machine in the museum?

 

[foraloysius]

Your wish is my command...

Here it is.

 

[foraloysius]

I actually made two. You see them a lot in white on a Swiss auction site called Ricardo.

http://www.ricardo.ch/kaufen/hausha...chinen-und-trockner/waschmaschinen/l/cn40375/

 

[ronhic]

That...

....looks completely indestructable...

 

[supremewhirlpol]

foraloysius,

Thanks a lot!! How common are these machines?

 

[foraloysius]

Quite common. At least in white. The Zug Adora is a machine you will find in many households in Switzerland. Until recently only in Switzerland though, they were manufactured only for the Swiss market. This blue one is the only one in color I have seen so far. I don't know if this is the only color they made or how many of it were made.

 

[bertrum]

Yes this Blue V-Zug looks really nice and very well made, never seen inside one mind.

With regard to buying one of the later models in the UK, my concerns would be, part availability, availability of technical information, after sales sevice (who are the repair agents in the UK?, how many engineers would be willing to look at one of these?).
Your really are taking a leap of faith buying a un-usual, foreign make.

 

[favorit]

@ Bertrum - V-zug.co.uk service / spare parts

Hope this helps
Cheers
Carlo

"UK service:
Tel: +44 845 050 8568 / Fax: +44 845 052 901
Opening hours:
Monday to Friday from 8.00am to 8.00pm
Saturday from 9.00am to 1.00pm

Spare parts
V-ZUG also provides guarantees of spare parts supply with durations between 12 and 17 years, which is rare in the industry and can be explained by the longer-than-average lifespan of the products."

cut and paste from :


http://www.vzug.com/global/gb/Service/Customer+service.html

 

[favorit]

@ Supremewhirlpool - V-Zug Unimatic spec sheet

As you're quite into commercial machines, hope you'll find this interesting - sorry, it's in french cause commercial machines aren't displayed on the english pages

note the huge difference in weight (and price) between frontloaders (SL-S) and HA TL (T)

cheers
Carlo

spec sheet :

http://www.v-zug.ch/v-zug/internet.nsf/PageID/FB57BBE8D05BCBC7C125733D003AAB44

 

[lavamat_jon]

Nice machines Mike - I love how detailed the display is with the programme stages.

What are the guarantees like with these babies?

Jon

 

[supremewhirlpol]

Parts availability is a big issue. From my research, parts for W series Primus machines are hard to come by in the US. Sure you can find most of the switches and even both timers for $600.00 and $397.00 respectively. My issue is bearing kits and seal kits. The second machine Primus W-10X^2 will need bearings in the near future. Oh sure, I can find parts for it in the UK, but currently that is quite a distance.

Since there are plenty of the Zug Adora SL machines around, they should be there 5-6 years from now. When I finally get out of college, I'm going to have to track this machine down and drag one back to the US with me. Geez, we have such crappy machines here in the US. Machines on the other side rock!!

Thanks Guys for the info!