VZUG Adora SLQ - impressions

[chestermikeuk]

Programmes

Hhmmm, is yours operating in Italian or English?? and have you changed any of the factory settings??

Quick test can you programme the following and see what times you get, and also confirm the default spin speed please:

1. 40d wash & start =
2. 40d + EasyCare =
3. 40d + EasyCare + Sport =
4. 40d + Easycare + Sport + Steam =

 

[rudin1969]

I've just run the test
No change in factory settings.
Language is Italian, but it shouldn't affect the settings
Here goes:
40d w: 1:15 default spin: 1200 possible increase to 1600
40d easy care: 1:12 default spin 800 possible increase to 1000
40 easy care sport: 0:38 default spin 800 possible increase to 1000
40 easy care sport steam: 1:04 default spin 800 possible increase to 1000 (with NO easy care selected, increase is possible to 1200)

 

[foraloysius]

Mike,

My favourite machine was the Unimatic Favorite, the early fifties full automatic toploader. Never saw a machine that well built. The lid of the detergent dispenser felt like it was made out of solid lead! I loved the colored dial too!

 

[chestermikeuk]

Results

1. 40d wash & start = 1h 45min
2. 40d + EasyCare = 1hr 39mins
3. 40d + EasyCare + Sport = 1hr 3mins
4. 40d + Easycare + Sport + Steam = 1hr 29mins

Have altered the settings to have deafult spin of 1600rpm where applicable, (although yes it does default to 800 with easy care)..and added +1 rinse, for me with cold water rinsing (especially the temp at the moment) even with easy care delicates and 800spin you could get some creasing, so for me whilst using a dryer, I spin out as much water as I can and let the dryer relax the fabrics!!!

Will re-set to factory settings again and see if the deafults are the same!!

 

[chestermikeuk]

Zug Unimatic

Until I saw your pics I always thought it was an agitator top loader, looks very sturdy, is that the detergent dispenser on the LHS?? any of the guys on Das Washemaschine forum got any old zugs??

 

[foraloysius]

Mike

Here is the lid of the detergent dispenser, it is on top of the machine just to the left of the drum opening. Part of it falls into the surrounding ring. The lid itself must weigh at least a kilo!

 

[foraloysius]

There are a few members on the German sites that have Unimatics, but most of them are newer models. According to a forum that used to be part of the V-Zug website (but has disappeared I think) there are still lots of older Unimatics in use. Note that most of these machines are in multi housing laundryrooms!

Here's a link to some videos on Youtube. The three at the top are of the Unimatic T 5 SL.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=zug+unimatic&search_type=&aq=f

 

[mrwash]

Thx for all the links and pics ! Have ayone of you ever had an unbalanced spin with that machine? This new balancing system with taking water when out of balance should ot allow an unbalanced spin...any opinions? Can you hear it if the machine takes some water while baancing?

 

[DysonAnimal]

Mike, just say the word and I will happily make a video for you!

 

[favorit]

>>> touch pad

I've read some manuals, the ZUGer are very flexible machine !!
I really like this machine has a ">>>" pad . One can shift each step of the cycle, even do "fine tuning" to the first rinse or the last one. Novotronics and early softtronics do, pity latest Mieles don't allow anymore the "END" trick to shift over cycle steps ...

@ Rudin :
- what's the difference between the wetclean cycle in the Zug and the handwash-wool in the W6000 ?

-I'm not sure about the SQL, but some swiss members of the waschmaschinen-forum.de have Adoras machines.

- Finger cross, touch wood .... what about the warranty ? in case, will the serviceman cross the border from Bellinzona to your town ?

TIA
Carlo

 

[chestermikeuk]

Zugs

Louis, I think that Unimatic SL toploader with the coloured buttons is rather fetching, also the programmer dial sounds like a keymatic clicking through the stages until the selected programme is completed, such sturdy machines!!! Does the inscription on the drum say "favourite" which you immediately think of a certain German make!!!

Jack, yes more vids required, the one you put up is getting quite a few views!!of course we`ll have to get you well versed in the art of washers before your next trip...LOl

 

[chestermikeuk]

Spins

Hi Mr Wash, have experienced a couple of unbalanced spins, usually with heavy absorbant clothing, bath robes / mats etc...and even then it does a good job before the VAS kicks in...what usually happens is it does a couple of interims slow rev spins, bit faster than distribution, then it starts to spin and senses the imbalance, you will then hear the cold water valves open and close pretty rapidly as the VAS system injects water at high pressure into the large drum baffles, this carries on until the drum is stable and then it proceeds to spin..heres a Zug diagram!!

 

[rudin1969]

Yes, the 'Advance' feature is very handy indeed.
The Wetclean programme uses the 'jet' system and very brief partial tumbles. More water is used than in the Miele handwash programme. In general, my impression is that the Adora is less of a water miser than Miele washers
I've taken a gamble with regard to the warranty etc... , Carlo. Fingers crossed.

 

[chestermikeuk]

>>> Advance to Next Sequence...!!!

Hi Carlo, this one one of the features I most like, if you are around and want a very quick wash then you can simply press the >>> and it will advance to the next wash sequence (wash to rinse, rinse to spin etc) or to stop...this machine is very flexible with the programming, the MaytagAsko is good but this is better!!! you can either press one touchpad and your`e washing or simply change time / temp / spin speed with the touch of a couple extra touchpads!!!

 

[mrwash]

Hi chestermikeuk,

thx for the explanation. I already knew that diagram but you know...every manufacturer promises the best, so it would be interesting if this system works well in real life. Maybe you have an unbalanced load within the next week. i would appreciate it so much if you could do a vid of an unbalanced spin cycle turning into a balanced one due to the VAS.
As you may know I own a Miele Navitronic and in my opinion the balance sensor is not the best one.

 

[foraloysius]

Yes Mike, it says indeed "Favorite" on that Unimatic. I wouldn't want to put dishes in it though as in AEG's Favorit!

 

[mynameismiele]

Wish i had that washer.

Sick washer Mike, Like the drum, nice big amount of holes, very big, and silent!.

 

[favorit]

same programmes, different times

Rudin's Adora seems faster than Mike one. Maybe Mike did you set the euro mode while Rudin you left the default swiss mode with those very fast cycles ?

Also noticed on v-zug.ch even the latest Unimatics frontloaders (commercial versions of the Adora) are no more heavy like tanks (from 130 Kg to 78) while the Unimatic toploaders are still 130 kg heavy.
Maybe having the new balance system, those heavy counterweights are useless. I don't want to think they are no more well built at least as the Little Giants (these maybe are even cheaper than Unimatics...)

 

[DysonAnimal]

'...of course we`ll have to get you well versed in the a

Now, really, Mike...I AM well-versed in the art of washers!

(Now that I've learnt that Lenor is softener, not detergent...)

 

[supremewhirlpol]

Does anyone have an actual picture of the Blue V-Zug FL machine in the museum?