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I was thinking about how this reverse action could occur. My only guess is that the disc creates a low-pressure around the base and the sides and blowing it upwards. Also, it's moving very fast so it kinda looks like the clothes mostly float above the disk so maybe the clothes aren't getting the rough beating that it might appear to be. Just a wild theory.

People on THS that own it love it. They say it cleans well and it's not very rough at all. Only time will tell. Mine's coming in the last week of June so I'll get to see it before Helen does :-P
 
Bobby, its OK to shower me and tickle my uvular but my kitchen setup has several constraints that only allows me to have a top loader.
If you notice that my washer is on the right side of the dryer and the GE range is on the right side of the washer and depth of all extra capacity front loaders that are
being built today are too deep that it will block the oven door, and since I live on the 3rd floor and the floors are made of wood,
that front loader will shake rattle and disturb my cousin who lives underneath me.
I had a Malber FL testing to see if worked before I put it in my fathers apartment and it was very loud during the spin cycle and
because of this, it steered me far away from owning one.

Jason, you know cars!
I lust love this ole clunker for it fits a whole lot of stuff that would not fit in others.....

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Ooohhhh

I guess you're getting the black Oasis? I love how the different colors contrast with the inside of the washer.

Yeah, you have a space issue on your hands. Definitely Oasis!

Those Lady K's are pretty righteous too! I really believe the build quality has gone way down on those DD Kenmore machines in the past few years. My mom's machine isn't a year old and already has a loud knock when spinning.
 
im having a hard time understanding the physics of that agitator, and how it achieves that "blossoming" or extrusion-like rollover. maybe *designgeek* can help? and that DOES look like a lot of rubbing. kinda like a citrus reamer. i wonder how it would do on a jeans only load? DIRTY jeans. and how about a comforter? and as for risers, unless you have an injured back or arthritis or obese, it seems like just another THING to sell to the unsuspecting public. dont they cost something like 100 bucks? for a simple box/drawer that prolly cost 5 dollars to make?
 
That's definitely very different! The see-sawing sound during agitation was very eerie. And watching the clothes doing their reverse rollover was quite trippy. Reminded me of those old LSD-scare films we watched in junior high.

Thirty years from now these will be the cool, eccentric, highly collectible machines the next generation of washer fanatics will be gushing over.

You GO Jason!!
 
That reverse rollover is pretty creepy and I can see how it can seem like a bad trip. Like some weird monster trying to come out.

Jamie, if the F&P mysteriously died, your mom will probably kick your butt LOL.
 
Larry, check the depth of the Duet Sport, said to be shallower than the regular Duet and they supposedly have a slighly different suspension system said to be better for off-foundation installation. And btw, beautiful appliances.
 
OMG TOO LOW WATER LEVEL!!!

How can you imagine to get clothes clean in a V-axis TL with such low water level?!?!?!!?
No, V-axis TL MUST use an agitator and full fill water! Water and energy saving is another thing: TUMBLE WASHING SYTEM!

That's the key to save energy and water... it doesn't matter the duration of the cycles (it isn't up to you to do the wahs, it's up to the washer :-)))

But either front loading, than top loading (Staber there, or any TL here in Europe), that's the right way to wash I think... remeber the women beating the sheets on the river stones in the past???

Unless than you pretreat any stains before put the clothes in the washer, scouring and beating is the right mechanical action in my honest opinion... My Grandma made the hand wash with water, soap and a brush!!! The whitest white was that! Then she bought the washer in the 1958, but whitest white cycle was never done in less than 2 hours of tumbling!

GoodBye
Diomede
 
The people that own the Oasis are saying wonderful things about it. If you have too much water, the clothes will float too high and not touch the disk. Too low and they'll get a beating. So apparently, it figures out how much water to use. My guess is when it does those load sensing spins, it's checking how much current it's taking to spin the basket, and that's how it calculates water.
 
I hope for the sake of WP/KM that these machines will not be trouble prone like the calypso's seem to have been.

I am glad that many people who have bought these oasis washers seem to like them very much. I think with those high tops and rounded corners these machines have, is very reminisent (sp) of the early 50's KM/WP machines.

I myself prefer the agitator model and like the idea of F&P technology in a Kenmore washer with a porcelain top and lid.

I just wish for what they are selling the agi model for that they would at least throw in a window also.
 
No need for a window. If it's true to F&P design, the lid switch is part of the magnet at the front of the machine where the lid lock is. The lid also has that same oval shaped magnet so I'm guessing that's all it takes. When I opened the lid, I didn't hear the familiar click of a mechanical switch anywhere so I'm guessing that's it.
 
The Oasis is Manufactured by Whirlpool. The water level is low, but just right. You are all correct about too much water. The clothes will float above the disk, but the disk creates so much movement there isnt a problem. If you have seen Roberts Harmony its works just like that when on bedding mode (fills to the top, and the reverse action is much faster). But other modes use the sensor which works by showering the clothes with COLD water. The water takes time to go through the clothes and when the water reaches the sensor it determines the change in tempreture from cold to more of a warmer temp from obsorbing the temp of the clothes, and amount of time it took for the sensor to get wet. This is how the microprossesor determines how much is in the tub and how much water to fill it with...

KitchenAid Draw dishwasher is the only KA dishwasher manufactured by F&P, others are Whirlpool.

I learned this from the Whirlpool Rep who comes to my store and gives the demo's and training on the new products.
 
The Oasis uses different numbers of gallons depending on the amount of clothes. IIRC the bedding cycle uses 39 gallons for each cycle. I will find out when I go to work tomorrow!
 
First Spin

Hi, how are you doing?

Can you make the video about the first spin with clothes & towels from wash to rinse?

Then the final spin....then finish.

-- Peter (kenmorepeter5ab)
 
Brettsomers, thanks for the vote of confidence but I have to say this one has me scratching my head also.

Very interesting to watch, and not at all reminiscent of indigestion. It's so counterintuitive it makes one think they have a little black hole hidden in there somewhere to provide a gravity well:-).

This has me intrigued. I think I'm going to pop in at Sears and take a peek. See if I can see anything that suggests how it does this.

I don't think it causes excessive wear on clothes. They would have had to test that issue during the development stage to avoid a potential product liability problem. Certainly no more wear than a regular agitator, and I think some of those cases are people using the Strong setting when Gentle will do.
 
Yes this action looks very similar to my GE Harmony, the poor lonely dear that it is. On my machine the water level would be just a bit higher (on the automatic water level cycles) but what you see in this machine is very similar.

You can manually fill the machine higher with a hose, but the rinse cycle goes back to the original water level, so you have to do it twice.

Good choice Jason, just because something is new and different and maybe less effective, usually means it's more fun and were not all here for performance, we're here for fun!

and Jamie (pulsator) said:
I wonder what mom would do if the Fisher Paykel died a mysterious death

Having a washer-teen in the house Jamie do you really think your mom would think that any washer death would be "mysterious"? LOL -- I tried it with my parents and that '68 Kenmore we had for years and I was always in trouble :)
 
Robert, you MEANIE

You tried to kill a Kenmore? SHAME!

But I bet it refused to die. That's how Kenmores are.

I don't see how the washer would be less effective on clothes. The clothes that are exposed to the disk will get a scrubbing, plus reports on THS are very positive.

Yeah, the fun factor is way up on these machines. A big YAY to Whirlpool for adding a window right at the get go. And this machine is defintely porcelain on top. It's built like a TANK.
 
Its me!

Hi, and thanks for watching my videos. If you have any questions concerning the operation of the washer, the cycles, please, feel free to ask. I'll try to answer as descriptively as possible, and if I can, post a video!
 
Hi Jonv112

Liked the videos. Can you see how this "invisible" agitator manages to get it's reverse rollover? It had many here wondering..i am not sure if that was answered or not.

One more question...only because i did not see a full wash cycle. Does this machine manage to thoroughly circulate a large load? The roll-over does seem a little slow. Very different and interesting though.
 
Yes, the machine does circulate the load quite thoroughly. The drain water proves it. It was the same, if not dirtier than my old washing machine.
 

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