Water level adjustment for a new Whirlpool frontloader?

[mark_wpduet]

You are right

I should have explained what I meant by spin rinse. But the method this machine uses I still like. It slows down from spin but keeps a decent speed and adds water (which is not drained) but it does it for quite a bit, pushing the water through the clothes really fast, before slowing down to tumble while adding more water.

 

[appnut]

I believe my generation of Duets was the last to do the slow spin and spray/fill/add water to each rinse.  I've seen newer models whereby it stops spinning completely and then turns the water on to begin filling for each phase of the cycle. 

 

I thought Whirlpool had taken legal action against LG because Whirlpool had the Filter Stream washing in their combos. 

 

[earthling177]

"I thought Whirlpool had taken legal action against LG because Whirlpool had the Filter Stream washing in their combos."

Well, if they did, I'm not sure what to say, but it doesn't put them under a good light, as theater folks would say... ;-)

To begin with, WP's patent expired eons ago, and it's not very bright to sue for that reason.

And if we go by a more recent patent (which I am almost sure has expired too, it was new in the very late 70's/very early 80's, I think), the "Jet System" used by AEG would probably be the folks who could sue LG.

If I'm not mistaken, the "small" yet significant difference is that the WP system kept all the water in the sump below the basket and the AEG system filled the basket almost as usual, using the jets to help saturate the clothes instead of the only way to get water to the clothes. Not too long after the AEG Jet System came out, again, if I'm not mistaken, other brands started using the "scoop & shower" vanes instead of the Jet System to reduce the water level in the basket and save energy.

At this point, unless you have special claims either scoop & shower, jet system or a jet stream like WP's should be free to use by anyone.

(Incidentally, I wonder when companies will discover the power of good will -- United Airlines, for example, are *still* getting lambasted for doing all kinds of wrong things with people's *reserved* tickets; meanwhile, companies like Volvo and Mercedes keep getting kudos for patenting things and either letting other companies use the idea for free or for a very small fee, thus saving lives. The reason I mention this is because about 10-15 years ago, some company was suing another for patent infringement on their "large ventilation hole to prevent children from suffocating inside a FL" -- dude, sure, get the patent, but make a big deal about it and let others use it on the condition you get credit, much better to have the good will and recognition than the 10 cents royalty!)

 

[mark_wpduet]

appnut

if your washer died today, what would you buy?

 

[appnut]

Mark, the Maxima MH8200

 

[johnb300m]

I can't stay silent anymore reading this thread. (facepalm)
As many might know, I have a Maxima 5100 bought 2 yrs ago.
Other than some spin and vibration glitches, it's washed FANTASTICALLY since the day I got it.

It's water levels on various cycles are exactly the same as other WP architectures of this vintage.
Normal cycle always starts with a very low water level, yet all clothes are always fully saturated, as they scrub away. Approximately 2/3 of the way through the Normal cycle the machine will actually add some water so there's a "decent" pool of water in the drum, but it doesn't reach the front of the drum.
At this point, it will also change the wash motion, turn the drum a bit quicker, to tumble the clothes so they land more tangentially on the drum wall, which is gentler than them in the previous segment, rolling and abrading on each other.

I seriously fail to understand why so many on here grouse about that.
WP has cracked the code to competitive wash performance without having clothes with moderate/normal soils having to swim around in water.
I call that innovation if you ask me.
It's caused NO performance issues on my end.

If I have extra dirty, sediment-laden loads, I'll either induce a manual pre-wash by adding a little soap to a "Rinse and Spin cycle. Then go into the Normal wash as usual on normal soil or heavy soil. Warm or Hot.
I know also, that "Hot" on Normal upsets many on here because it's not tap-hot.
Ok.....so? There's other cycles on there that will give tap-hot water.
Notably the Sanitize cycle. I'll use that for grimy towels or bedding, often on Light soil, since it will ensure a 131 degree wash phase for about 15min. Is it AT 131F for a whole 15min? No..... but further up in the thread, it doesn't sound like it has to be.
The heater runs in that cycle, it's tap hot. It uses a bit more water. It works great.
I've had to use PowerWash very seldom, like for car and house rags only.
All the other cycles have gotten everything else perfectly clean and fresh.
Despite the low water levels everyone seems to be clenching their sphincters about.
Oh, and that's all without recirculating spray.
I'm sure it's a nice added feature, but I certainly don't feel remorseful or dirty not having it.