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Naughty,Yes! I was just using that as an exsample though... 6 plates in the back it would do the same thing. Never had this problem in the Bosch or portable Kenmore. I'm always going to "war" with this rack!
 
It is a rebadged Frigidaire. Lower-end Kenmores used to be sourced form GE, but got transitioned to Frigidaire in the last 5 years or so.
 
A fan of the Whirlpool

I recently got new Kenmore kitchen appliances during a remodel and the dishwasher is the only quality appliance I got. The Frigidaire-sourced range and refrigerator are cheaply-built to say the least, but the Whirlpool-sourced dishwasher is one of the best I have ever used, next to a GE Potscrubber from 1975.
 
Checking for sound/Bob question

A good way to check out the insulation of a dishwasher is to take your cell phone to the store, set the ringer volume to the maximum setting, put it in each dishwasher with the door closed and have someone call (Or set off the alarm on it). Then compare the noise level.

My next dishwasher will probably be a Kenmore like Bob’s. If it can do a Bob Load and get everything clean then I’m sold. Bob does yours have the manual filter? If so, how often does it have to be cleaned?

~Jeff
 
Spankomatic, my Tappan a rebadged Frigidaire machine has the same poorly designed lower rack, its like the casters on the back of the rack (first to roll in) are not far enough apart to bridge the gap between the the track in the tank and the track in the door. It will do this empty. i have learned to load the front half of the rack first, it helps, but its poor engineering. I have the "side" silverware basket, its FLIMSY too. Nothing must not protrude even the slightest below the lower basket, skinny steak knife tips, will even keep the lower arm from rotating. IMHO its poorly designed and quirky to load, but loaded correctly it washes very well in about an hour. alr2903
 
For Jeff

Mine does NOT have the HE wash system, it still has the internal disposer. Magic Clean (Leslie) does have that HE wash system design and his is what was considered the 'replacement" of my model. He has indicated to me he doesn't have to clean the filter out very often and he is pretty touch on his in terms of putting really dirty stuff into it. Larry in New York (CleanTeam) also has the "replacement" version with the HE wash system. Why ya ask, problems with the LG dishwasher?
 
Alr2903 = Could not agree with you more on the poor engineering. They could have done better. Mine also has the "side" siverware basket. It fits in the front also,so I put it there. Just a personal preference. I am always throwing in a fork or spoon through out the day and like it there right up FRONT.
Jim
 
Of course i have to vote for the Bosch. This is from my house in IL. The house im in now, is a rental as im getting settled here in MA. There is a whirlpool in this house and its a night and day difference between my old Bosch and the Whirlpool.

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Oh wow! Thanks for all the pics. I've been trying to decide what's important to me in a dishwasher. I really like the racks with tines that aren't shaped for dishes. I also prefer the silverware on the door (if it gets clean there) and not having to load around anything would be especially nice.

Sound? Not so much. I always figure I can insulate it pretty well around it and silence quite a bit of noise. Cleaning ability is pretty high up there. Cycle times I don't care about too much. At this point the plan is to get 2 dishwashers, 1 for pots, pans, & prep and the other for the actual dishes.

I haven't seen any in the stores I've just loved, but the Kitchenaid was sold. I'm going to keep my eyes open though now and check ReStore frequently!
 
At this point the plan is to get 2 dishwashers

I love the idea of 2 dishwashers. I always thought if I were going to have 2 dishwashers I would get a regular dishwasher and one with the pull out drawers. This would give me more options for my dishwashing needs. The regular dishwasher for larger items like pots,pans,roasting pans... The pull out drawer for those large cooking utensiles,measuring cups,bowls. Those things I use while cooking. Kinda like putting it all in the kitchen sink,then turning it ON. Could also be used for smaller loads during the week.

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Here's what I decided.

I got the Kenmore 1389 for my regular dishes and I'm going to get the Whirlpool GU2475XTVB for my cooking dishes (pots, pans, knives, etc.)
I still wish I could find an older KitchenAid though.
I did look at the drawer dishwashers but decided we generate enough dishes to need a whole dishwasher.
 

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