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Maytag's AMP turned me off to Maytags because of the lid switch. Then the piss-poor agitation I could watch later did. It was not until the 06 series that I could see any reason to believe that they had any factors I would like. I realize they have a small capacity. I don't like any top loader with poor turnover.

I don't like the D-shaped tub opening of pre DD WP products, but I like the KA version of those, especially since I can skip the neutral drain which I have never liked.

I prefer electric dryers to gas dryers because I have a sensitive nose and items dried in an electric dryer smell better to me than those dried in a gas dryer. That having been said, I use a gas one outdoors in the AC season.

I don't like any gas stove.
 
Gas ranges or cook tops even though I have one.   Turn it on and have 2/3 of the heat go into your surrounding kitchen area while the rest goes into the pan.   Cook for one or two weeks then look at  or wipe your cabinets...full of some type of residue that is not present when using electric. I would rather induction or electric coil.

 

Any appliance that has round edges or  non squared control panels.     There was a washer/dryer that had doors that were shaped like a Vicks cough drop...remember that?   The lack of  having right angles in the place I want, will prevent me from buying an appliance. Give me  squared design areas...  thank you.

 

Frigidaire appliances after GM stopped making them.

 

GE dishwashers made in the 1960's  Yeah some of them cleaned but they were loud and all you could hear was the motor/pump stopping and starting between drains and fills and water circulation.

 

Chlorine Bleach in laundry.  I don't want this stuff coming in contact with my clothes.

 

Pod laundry detergents

 

Strong Sweet smelling fabric softener scents especially those that last in your clothes two weeks or more, and especially those made by P&G with their creamy vanilla scents.  Give me a sharp distinct scent....not this creamy, warm, smooth crap.

 

KA TL washers made in early 1996.  Mine never cleaned  well,  never rinsed completely and had two transmission failures in the 6 years I had it.  Won't have another of this year in my house ever.

 

White/Westinghouse DWs made in mid 1980's.  Loud pieces of junk that had upper racks disconnecting from the tub letting water leak out during the cycle.

 

Some current day refrigerators that have a massive amount of plastic trays, bins, and structures that make removal for cleaning an all day chore and heaven forbid any little cheaply constructed piece breaks from standard everyday use. 

 

Today's USA  washers that use dumbed down water temperatures..claiming 85F is warm and hot is 110F.  I can hold my hand under 110f or 115f water so this isn't hot. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
Say What you want about Kenmore!

Sears probably put more automatic washers than any other brand in this country,into more peoples homes than anyother make!!!! I use those old frogeyes as everday machines and dont hear a peep out of them,you cant say that for many 58 year old machines.They are well built to Sears specs and actually attractive,top of the line for Sears machines,my friends think they are great and they are no idiots.The styling is not garrish,they light up with their nice ultraviolet bulbs in the washer and dryer,and clean excellant.All of the other brands are OK! Maytags are good,they chug right along,but 50s model GEs and Hotpoints kept repairmen in jobs and Frigidairs too! But you cant beat their iceboxes,and I have to say I luv to hear a Frigidaire washing,and that spin!!!!!! WOW!
 
Kenmore and Whirlpool BD machines did a good job of cleaning, but were definately quirky and odd in some ways:

<ul>
<li>Max spin speed too low for good water extraction from heavy fabrics</li>
<li>Pull to stop, Push to start cycle knobs counter-intuitive. (like Frigidaire)</li>
<li>Complex, but fascinating mechanism, not all that easy to service and could not be serviced from the front</li>
<li>Side-opening lid of Kenmore product did not fold down flat</li>
<li>Collected lots of gunk and rust around lid hinges

</li>
</ul>
 
Gas!

 

Gas ranges or cook tops even though I have one.   Turn it on and have 2/3 of the heat go into your surrounding kitchen area while the rest goes into the pan.   Cook for one or two weeks then look at  or wipe your cabinets...full of some type of residue that is not present when using electric. I would rather induction or electric coil.

 

DITTO!

 

Malcolm
 
Zenith

As a fun aside, Abt, Chicago's premier appliance store is located immediately adjacent to Zenith Drive, which was home to the Zenith HQ at one time.
 
MY personal pet peeve.

Even though I love Kenmore's, I could not understand why they set the timer to drain for 4 minuets and then 2 minuets for spin after the wash cycle.
Since the Belt Drive drains so fast the 2 minuets drain phase would have done the job like on the DD models and added the extra 2 minuets for the deep rinse.

Now as for Sears stoves, they maybe good for 5 years and then the glowbar igniter will burn out and must be replaced.
It happened to all the stoves we purchased over the years which is about 15 or more units......
 
4 Minute Drain

Was to counter for a self cleaning filter that may be partially clogged and slightly exceed the 2 minute mark.  Or, it could be a hold over from a portable machine whereby the drain hose to the sink would be of smaller diameter.  Or maybe it took longer to drain where the standpipe was at its upper limit of spec.

 

The mind boggles, doesn't it?

 

Malcolm
 
The mind boggles, doesn't it

Yes, but a washer sitting there doing nothing for 2 minutes after the water is drained is as satisfying as a train sitting in a station for 60 to 90 seconds when you are on your way someplace. They used to trip the timer after the water level switch reset, I think.
 
Hear, hear!

Also, I have to mention GE. Don't get me wrong, my daily driver fridge is a '65 combination, but their cost-cutting measures occasionally border on the absurd. I know they invented "value engineering" but really, Masonite backs on washers? And especially electronics..ever dig into a Portacolor? Not that I'm complaining, merely entertained by their occasional CI ingenuity. -Cory
 
The second series and later electronic WP/KM washers did sense when the tub was empty (motor load) and advanced directly into spin.

Standing pilot gas dryers are stupid. Other than for immediate flame-up on starting and selling more gas, I can't see the point. I had a 1969 GE gas dryer in the garage for a while with a standing pilot and every time I touched the machine and felt the slight warmth of the cabinet (and knew the inside of the machine was completely rusted & corroded) it pissed me off. I endured that frustration for only about six weeks and then pulled control panel and sent the rest to be recycled into three new Kias.
 
Greg, you are too funny!

The gas company always sold WP models with standing pilots so they would use more gas, but if you went to a regular store, you would find the same model with electric ignition. The gas expense for the pilot was probably not that great way back when. I think CU used to say the pilot used enough gas in a month to dry three or four loads, but what those fumes do to the inside of the dryer is terrible; not only the rust, but they also turn the insulation on the wiring to goo.
 
I love my gas--range, dryer, water heater & furnace! --And automobile as well!

Dept. store brands: It's the over-buying, over-owning of SEARS, SEARS, SEARS, that I dislike!

Mis-matched controls: The Frigidaire & Hotpoint knobs on their washers & dryers (washers, mostly!), of which the more they do, the less space that they are given, and to the point of so you can't read 'em! (Someone at MAD magazine's satires sure got the message to these brand names in the control engineering dept. eh?)

Frigidaire ranges lacking the Radiant-Tube burners--they were big & ugly, but when I saw the narrow ones replacing them, then they were truly missed; what made Frigidaire unlike any other range!

WHITE-Westinghouse, when it's not referring to the color of the appliance but simply the "ownership" by 'you-know-who'! (Same goes for Non-GM Frigidaire's that followed under the same umbrella! "Frigidaire appliances aren't made by General Motors!" said my not-very knowledgeable business class [read: Instructor] teacher in college...)

(Most likely more to come!)

-- Dave
 
Belt-Driven Whirlpools

It's not that I really hate the design of these workhorses; the problem is crawling behind them, laying on a damp, dirty, moldy-smelling, partially-intact cement cellar floor, among all the spider webs and who knows what else, in order to work underneath the washers. Chances are the self-tapping screw is rusted in place from being so near to the damp floor, and needs to be chiseled off. If the pump, or any drain pipes above the pump, are clogged, get ready for a good soaking when the hose is disconnected. This only adds to the damp misery. Always fun to slide the belt past those advancing arms, too.

That being said, they were relatively easy to repair, and what's a repair job without getting dirty, anyway?
 
I've never cared for 9 minute wash times on laundromat washers. I'd like a full 14 minutes please! AND!!! I've never cared for KM/WP Direct Drives not having a spray rinse in the first spin and instead having it on the last spin. That's one thing I loved about Speed Queen, Maytag and GE washers, the long spray rinse during the first spin. I miss those.
 
Miele

I really couldn't care less. Of course, they feature good quality (or have, until recently). Of course many like them.
But I find them simply boring.

Any decade you might look at: They just work. They just look simple. But that's about it.

No mind-bending mechanisms (such as the fantastic Maytag Neptune toploader = YES, we DO want to make toploading handling available to front-loading washing)

No Christmas-tree lighting (such as all older AEGs were)

No new rethinking design (such as the Ariston washers with their U-shaped front door and the controls IN them).

Mieles are just as square and boring to me as a run-off-the-mill glasses frame on the nose of a high-browed architect.

Workable, longlifed but boring. They just work. Nothing to convince me. Looking like neutral square boxes to me. Zero play factor. Zero appeal just by their looks. I could likewise kiss a tractor or write a love letter to a concrete warehouse. Just nothing to appeal.
 
Gas!!!!

When we had an ice storm in the 80s,everyone lost power.I was so glad I had my 40s Magic Chef stove I got heat and could cook at least.I have a gas fired boiler for my heat in the basement,and when it quits I will never get one with an electric pilot igniter again,I want the standard pilot light,it keeps the furnace dry year around.Mine is so rusty and my basement is not that damp.The furnace last longer with a pilot light and it uses very little gas.
 
Steering Wheel Mounted Controls:

I'll never understand why they're really necessary! Is it that hard or unsafe to take your hands off the wheel to change a radio station, adjust the volume or make the car colder or hotter, when you have the controls well-placed on the dashboard & just as virtually easy to use?

(I'm picturing that 1990-something Oldsmobile Aurora w/ the steering wheel turned so I could see a button on the steering wheel w/ a "fan" icon staring right at me,that I saw!)

I don't have yellowing issues on my cookware or walls w/ my gas range either... And as for the heat, I don't think my range throws off that much; it's a hot day no matter what!

Thanks for pointing out the advantage of a standing pilot light on a furnace... Mine has one, and hopefully it's not wasting gas...

-- Dave
 
I would like a non-electronic ignition gas stove for the exact same reasons that Whirlaway (Bobby) mentioned in his post above.  I want it mostly for the oven though.  I can always light the burners on the current kitchen stove with a match, but not the oven.  We have a '98 Magic Chef gas range as our daily driver.
 
Appnut:

"Most of each of your dislikes are pretty much illogical."

I agree completely, but I don't think there's anything wrong with that. We like what we like, and sometimes sweet reason has not a damn thing to do with it. So long as we're happy with what we like, what's the beef?

I mean, if you want to get all logical, Dick Cheney should be considered just as much of a hottie as Christopher Meloni. They're both guys with the same basic functions, right?
 
likes and dislikes

Like------GAS appliances of any kind. you can perfectly modulate your cooking, clothes are done quicker and far cheaper than electric, I'll take anything gas before electric.

 

Dislike---606 dryers, just too darn small, even 2 pairs of long pants come out wrinkled. That won't happen in a Whirlpool dryer.

 

Like--FilterFlo's for great washing and rinsing, and longevity. And their companion dryer are right-sized and accurate.

 

Dislike--FilterFlo's--the console with those toggles just looks cheap, and you have to bend down to read the regular cycle on the knob, and move your hand out of the light to set the damn cycle knob. But it's all worth it for the performance. And the dryer filter is too small and catches the dryer sheets.

 

Like---Norge, they turnover everything and great extraction. Who cares about noise?

 

Dislike---Maytag, just boring. My 608 will outlive me after it bores me to death.

 

Dislike on all washers-----Permanent Press cycle---wastes tons of water, doesn't stop wrinkles. As far as I can tell, wrinkling is cured by drying in a Whirlpool/Kenmore dryer, has damn little to do with washing. Other big drum dryers are good too.

 

This is a fun thread, thanks.
 
What I like is the big, bold look of the classic Hotpoint washers and dryers, the simple layout and the flexibility... What I don't like is the prettiest agitator ever, the Silhouette, that just let the load ride up and down it's ramps without getting serious about cleaning... Such a disappointment!!!
 
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