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Miele W3985WPS Navitronic.

Hi Folks,
Well I had to order the TOL Miele W3985WPS 1800RPM 6KG Navitronic. For some reason best known to Miele the W4446WPS is not available in Northern Ireland. Apparently Northern Ireland is supplied by Miele Ireland and not Miele UK despite the fact that Northern Ireland is part of the UK; Miele Ireland do not import the W4446WPS so it's not available from our local Electrical Retailers. There is actually a fairly limited range of models for the Irish and Northern Irish market. See www.Miele.ie

The Miele cost me £1300 so it better be worth the money! It should be here on Thursday or Friday this week, I will post pictures when it arives.

http://www.miele.co.uk/Products/Features.aspx?pid=101
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Hi David

All I can say is blimey thats a posh machine!

I was looking at the instruction manual.......Cant believe how many options etc and how clever the machine is.
Looks like it will be an amazing machine.
I wish you good luck David and hope all will be well with this one but then again its a miele...enough said...lol

Mark
 
Miele W3985WPS Navitronic.

Hi Mark,
Thank you fr your good wishes. Yes it has an astounding number of options and to be honest the majority of them will likely never be used LOL. I would say the Electrolux Insight is a much better looking machine but what use are looks if the thing can't rinse properly and does not have the drum light as advertised in their brochure?

I'm keeping my fingers crossed as my sister had the Miele from hell! It had (In my opinion as an engineer) a wrongly calibrated pressure sensor on the main board which caused the machine to use too little water during cottons wash, so little water that it was not even visible in the drum. This resulted in the load not being saturated and appalling wash performance. The engineer was out 4 times and every time he plugged a computer into the machine which said all was well, he would not even start the machine on the wash cycle in question. My sister opted to buy a new Electrolux Insight as it only cost £60 more than the control board for the Miele. Now I appreciate this was likely a one off but none the less the whole affair was handled improperly and has left my sister that she would never consider a Miele again. If the control board had been replaced my sister would have been happy and most likely still using the machine today.
Anyway what's past is past!

David
 
Ow that's indeed a negative way to experience Miele. Still I think that is't a perfect machine. Here in belgium we can order any machine even not imported. The local miele dealer orderd for me a machine with flat dispay instead of angled because the machine had to be fit under a counter. No extra costs and the machine arrived within a week.
 
We have its predecessor the W2888

The menus are easy to use, and provide simple access to change the various options.

I really only ever use three cycles, Shirts, Cottons and Cottons Hygiene.

Our machine when it behaves itself on the wooden floor is silent other than the drain pump, and the load sensing is great, in that it can adjust the wash time by up to 10 minutes on a short wash, or 30 minutes on a long wash, depending on the size of the load.

In the previous generation it offered huge improvements in configurability and flexibility over the lower models. These days the base models are just as flexible and configurable.

The tangible benefit that it gives over my old 1400RPM spin speed model, is even dryer clothes. The 1400RPM on my W2515 would get things damp dry, but even light cottons were never quite ironing ready. The 1800RPM means that Hankies, and some shirts can be ironed out of the machine. It still amazes me, that there is no difference in wrinkling between 1400 and 1800 RPM.

Good luck with your new machine, and make it be trouble free and make you happy for years to come.
 
Hi David,

Intresting about your sisters machine and the water level, my EWF12108 is very poor on rinse levels, when the engineer comes this week to fix the jetsystem I will ask him about this...

Have fun with the Miele :-)
 
David - congratulations, you'll love the machine for sure. They are truly brilliant machines and as much as I love other brands of washers, if I could only have one machine it'd always be a Miele :-).

Jon
 
Miele W3985WPS Navitronic.

Hi askomiele,
Yes I know it sounds strange but that’s the way Miele Ireland operate, I could probably have bought one online from the UK Mainland but I like to support my local Laser store. Laser is Northern Ireland’s largest independent electrical retailer and they provide a very personal service. The Northern Ireland retailers can only source Miele appliances from Miele Ireland and as you can see they only carry certain models.

Hi Louis,
Yes there are so many options on the Navitronic but I’m familiar with the system as I had a W2888WPS for 3 weeks, I returned it to the store as it developed a rattle during top spin. The machine was silent during wash and slower spins.

Hi Nathan,
Yes the Navitronic is a very user friendly system; I particularly like the ease of navigation which is not dissimilar to Nokia Cell Phones. I like the large display too.

Hi Dave,
Yes do please ask the engineer, I for one am interested in his answer. My sister’s machine is the EWF14108W which is identical to your machine except it spins at 1400RPM. I suspect there may be different versions of the operating Software and my sister’s machine uses an older version.

Hi Jon,
Thank you. I’m sure I will like it and at least I know it will rinse properly and deep rinses can be selected.
I have noticed the Insight only has rinsing problems on the Cottons cycle but that’s due to Cottons ability to hold on to detergent whereas Synthetic fibres release detergent effortlessly. Rinses on the Insight’s Synthetics cycle are done in a teaspoonful of water just like the Cottons cycle.
I will post pictures as soon as I take delivery which will likely be Friday.

David

http://www.miele.ie/
 
Miele W3985WPS Navitronic.

Hi Folks,
Just a quick update!
Well the Miele W3985WPS Navitronic did not arrive at Laser's dispatch centre till this morning. Unfortunately it arrived too late to be dispatched to me so its going to be Monday afternoon before I take delivery.

David
 
David, eagerly looking forward to Monday! Feel free to ask anything you want to know... if you want to email me I can give you instructions to get into the service menu which lets you access some goodies :-).

Jon
 
Help in Need of Hotpoint AQGD 169s Instruction Manual

Howdy!

David and the rest of you i was wondering if you could help me out. I just purchased the Hotpoint AQGD169s as a display model thinking it would be no problem to find the instruction manual on-line. How wrong i was, i cant even find the model listed on the hotpoint website or on the service center website. Am i looking in the wrong places or is there something i dont know...PLEASE HELP, i am desperate to get going with my washing.
 
Aqualtis User Guide AQXX169PM

Hello Jummmps,
Welcome to Automaticwasher.org.
Congratulations on yur new Aqualtis you will be delighted with it I'm sure of that.
I checked the Hotpoint Image Bank site and they don't seem to have your user guide listed so here is a link to the AQXX169PM which is identical to your machine except your model is 8.0Kg capacity, is silver and has a drum light. Just submit 8.0Kg and 4.0Kg where 7.5Kg and 3.5Kg is listed.

I hope this is helps.

David

http://imagebank.indesitcompany.co....f/Hotpoint/Laundry/AQXXD169PM_19505644201.pdf
 
Miele W3985WPS

Hi Folks,
Well it has finally arrived!
I will start a new thread with some pictures shortly.

David
 
Hi David,

Just an update about my machine, I had no sucsess with the engineer today (he refused to accept that the jetsystem was not working as it was showing no fault codes, until I told him to run a wash cycle). He pressed some buttons to get the diagnostic codes up but wouldn't tell me how to do it when I asked him ;-). They are coming to fix it properly tomorrow as they didnt have the part with them.

Hopefully i'll get an engineer who knows what he is on about!

Hope your enjoying the Miele :-)
 
Hi there David

Good luck with the new Miele. I've had my Premier Novo for 8 years and it's no different from the day I bought it. I hope you are as happy with yours as I am with mine.

Rob
 
Thanks Folks

Hi Dave,
I hope you are sorted now? I think it's terrible the way some engineers will not listen to owners, most people get to know the normal operation of their washers and know when something is not right. Did the engineer tell you how to get into the diagnostic mode? If not I will try to find out the procedure for you. I personally don't know how the machines main board could detect a failed recirculation pump unless it had burned out; I have never seen one burned out they tend to wear over time and eventually seize or jam.
Oh yes thanks I'm delighted with the Miele.

Hi Rob,
I could not be happier with the Miele, it's so smooth and silent even during the 1800RPM spin. It's great to have Stainless Steel paddles which are part of the drum, I mean how much would it cost for all washers to have proper paddles? My guess would be a few Pounds per machine.

David
 
Hi David, sorry for the late reply.

Still not sorted i'm afraid, phoned them up today and they said they still haven't got the part in.

The machine was/is actually smelling of burning when it is on, so I think the pump module may well have burned out, but he said no diag codes were being displayed...

If I get a different guy round to fix it when they eventually get the part, I will ask him about the difference in the rinse cycles and see if he tells me how to get the diagnostic mode up :-)
 

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