westytoploader
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Hi Peter, are you currently using the pre-1995 GE top-loaders in your laundromats?
What think ye of GE?
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Fascinating... I did see the Hotpoint washer going into the single auger now, a pleasant sight given that I must see more of those machines in the junk pile than any other brand/style. Given their due, those 'black-panel' Hotpoints were reliable machines for a budget price.
Fascinating... I did see the Hotpoint washer going into the single auger now, a pleasant sight given that I must see more of those machines in the junk pile than any other brand/style. Given their due, those 'black-panel' Hotpoints were reliable machines for a budget price.
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Tolivac, the Revopak system was also a Fernand Rey invention adopted by S&D (Dennis (UK) borrowed heavily from Ochsner (Switzerland), by the way). The point of the tines or teeth was to exert enormous point-pressure to break up large objects in the hopper, and the intermeshing of the moving teeth with the stationary ones at the exit point from hopper into storage body, was simply a means of retaining load in the body (i.e. not for additional grinding action, though the Pakamatic did use stationary teeth for that purpose; subtle but effective design).
This stuff I know via a design project for some recycling equipment many years ago. Feels like yesterday
. Now I'm on the "eco-domestica" track for a while, with water & electricity in particular, which is what got me here. And in my day job I build telecommuter infrastructure, which saves the time- and fuel-wastage of physical commuting. Latest case is a client who normally drives 1 hr 10 minutes *each way.* No longer...!
BTW, re. Hotpoint: I just repaired one last week, as a side-effect of hanging out around here. I'd have to guess it was an early 1980s machine.
This stuff I know via a design project for some recycling equipment many years ago. Feels like yesterday
. Now I'm on the "eco-domestica" track for a while, with water & electricity in particular, which is what got me here. And in my day job I build telecommuter infrastructure, which saves the time- and fuel-wastage of physical commuting. Latest case is a client who normally drives 1 hr 10 minutes *each way.* No longer...!BTW, re. Hotpoint: I just repaired one last week, as a side-effect of hanging out around here. I'd have to guess it was an early 1980s machine.
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david-is this enough of an answer?
This thread started out with you asking about GE washers and ends with a huge technical discussion of Krushers. I an LMAO because I think this pretty much settles what everyone on this board thinks of GE top load washers. I think even the Frigidaire top loaders get more respect around here.
The other thing that makes me wonder- In the 2001 GE appliance catalog, the TOL GE Washer & Dryer came with a 10 year full warranty. I wonder how they made out on that?
This thread started out with you asking about GE washers and ends with a huge technical discussion of Krushers. I an LMAO because I think this pretty much settles what everyone on this board thinks of GE top load washers. I think even the Frigidaire top loaders get more respect around here.
The other thing that makes me wonder- In the 2001 GE appliance catalog, the TOL GE Washer & Dryer came with a 10 year full warranty. I wonder how they made out on that?
Krushers,GE washers,commuting
I got interested in the "Krushers" when they were brought out on this site much earlier.So I looked them up.I used one(Marathon Ram-Jet) at the other workplace I worked at.Had a 15Hp powerpak.They too,also make an auger compactor-goes under the name "Aug-Jet"Has an auger as well as a conventional ram.From what I saw on the CRT site-they had mentionedabout the additional grinding action of the RevoPak-I could see how the forked ram could exert more force on something-much like the digging teeth on a backhoe bucket.The CRT site mentioned the moving forked blade worked thru a stationary forked one.
On commuting I used to live in Wash DC area-where the other plant I worked at in downtown DC.Had to be there though since I did equipment maintenance.Commuted by subway-or by train using my car to get to the train or subway stop-depended on what shift I worked.Some of my collegues there commuted 3HRS each way just to be away from downtown.
I really liked the OLDER GE laundry products-esp the "Filter Flo" washers-they were so cool and -effective.esp the "Mini-basket" attachment. Just so sad their product has turned to Krusher food.Same with some of Maytag.At this point will only buy the vintage products of those brands.I did have a GE washer that had the lint trap on the outside edge of the tub and a Roto-swirl like agitator. It did work pretty well.Used it as a trade in towards a KN machine.
I got interested in the "Krushers" when they were brought out on this site much earlier.So I looked them up.I used one(Marathon Ram-Jet) at the other workplace I worked at.Had a 15Hp powerpak.They too,also make an auger compactor-goes under the name "Aug-Jet"Has an auger as well as a conventional ram.From what I saw on the CRT site-they had mentionedabout the additional grinding action of the RevoPak-I could see how the forked ram could exert more force on something-much like the digging teeth on a backhoe bucket.The CRT site mentioned the moving forked blade worked thru a stationary forked one.
On commuting I used to live in Wash DC area-where the other plant I worked at in downtown DC.Had to be there though since I did equipment maintenance.Commuted by subway-or by train using my car to get to the train or subway stop-depended on what shift I worked.Some of my collegues there commuted 3HRS each way just to be away from downtown.
I really liked the OLDER GE laundry products-esp the "Filter Flo" washers-they were so cool and -effective.esp the "Mini-basket" attachment. Just so sad their product has turned to Krusher food.Same with some of Maytag.At this point will only buy the vintage products of those brands.I did have a GE washer that had the lint trap on the outside edge of the tub and a Roto-swirl like agitator. It did work pretty well.Used it as a trade in towards a KN machine.
pcm-is this enough of an answer-well, yeah!
Its good to hear from all the folks in the club. I know its tough to stay on the subject-on the super disussomat we went from a beautiful kithcen to pressure cookers-I take blame for that one. Its fun reading all the threads and comments. Well, GE maybe turning itself around a little, but I am still a little leary of there quality. OBTW I have a GE Nautilus DW in bisque. Nearly 1 year in use, I must say its fine for a budget to middle machine, not particularly quiet, doesn't clean as well as my old whirlpool from the other house, but its ok. I have to watch putting things too large in the top rack as there is a spray arm protruding down from the top of the tub. The thing that stumps me the most is the GE, whirlpool, and a Maytag I used at my last job can't seem to dry the dishes thoroughly. The top rack is still damp much of the time. With the heat setting. I wonder if the element wattage has been reduced from what they were years ago when you could burn yourself taking a hot freshly dried dish or glass out of those old machines? I think modern dishwashers'drying ability is not as good as it once was.
Its good to hear from all the folks in the club. I know its tough to stay on the subject-on the super disussomat we went from a beautiful kithcen to pressure cookers-I take blame for that one. Its fun reading all the threads and comments. Well, GE maybe turning itself around a little, but I am still a little leary of there quality. OBTW I have a GE Nautilus DW in bisque. Nearly 1 year in use, I must say its fine for a budget to middle machine, not particularly quiet, doesn't clean as well as my old whirlpool from the other house, but its ok. I have to watch putting things too large in the top rack as there is a spray arm protruding down from the top of the tub. The thing that stumps me the most is the GE, whirlpool, and a Maytag I used at my last job can't seem to dry the dishes thoroughly. The top rack is still damp much of the time. With the heat setting. I wonder if the element wattage has been reduced from what they were years ago when you could burn yourself taking a hot freshly dried dish or glass out of those old machines? I think modern dishwashers'drying ability is not as good as it once was.
GE Washers
Here is what CR had to say. I was surprised to see the Maytag Neptune TL to be on the top of the list. They must not consider tangled, mangled clothes as one of the categories.
Here is what CR had to say. I was surprised to see the Maytag Neptune TL to be on the top of the list. They must not consider tangled, mangled clothes as one of the categories.
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Tolivac, "CRT": seems like historic-interest industrial machinery geeks are turning up in all kinds of fields. Good trend.
GE: I think we had a GE when I was a very little kid (mid to late 60s). I remember clearly that it had one of those filter-flo attachments that went atop the agitator and turned the lint into little balls of fuzz similar to cotton puffs that were easily removed (I was too young to get the mischievous idea of throwing them at the wall to see if they'd stick!. I thought that was clever, and also the mixing of the detergent with incoming water in the filter-flo device was quite clever. First time I saw a washer without that attachment, I thought it had gone missing, or the design was flawed if they hadn't included it.
From what I recall, that mid-60s GE always seemed to work well enough, there weren't any complaints, and it ran fairly quietly including the spin cycle. I don't recall it ever making loud banging noises so it apparently didn't offbalance much, or my mom was good at keeping the load even. I don't think we ever replaced it; eventually we moved and there was something else at the new place which I don't have a clear memory of at this point.
Interesting how these memories work. I also recall our early Frigidaire fridge but not the one that replaced it. And same case for our Whirlpool dishwasher, which was one of those that the developers installed in large numbers.
GE: I think we had a GE when I was a very little kid (mid to late 60s). I remember clearly that it had one of those filter-flo attachments that went atop the agitator and turned the lint into little balls of fuzz similar to cotton puffs that were easily removed (I was too young to get the mischievous idea of throwing them at the wall to see if they'd stick!
. I thought that was clever, and also the mixing of the detergent with incoming water in the filter-flo device was quite clever. First time I saw a washer without that attachment, I thought it had gone missing, or the design was flawed if they hadn't included it.From what I recall, that mid-60s GE always seemed to work well enough, there weren't any complaints, and it ran fairly quietly including the spin cycle. I don't recall it ever making loud banging noises so it apparently didn't offbalance much, or my mom was good at keeping the load even. I don't think we ever replaced it; eventually we moved and there was something else at the new place which I don't have a clear memory of at this point.
Interesting how these memories work. I also recall our early Frigidaire fridge but not the one that replaced it. And same case for our Whirlpool dishwasher, which was one of those that the developers installed in large numbers.
Designgeek:I found the Classic Refuse Trucks site while looking up info and doco on the vehicles as we were talking about them in these entries.Even remembered some of them---Thought of the "Roto-Press" vehicles-sounds like when you were emptying the truck at the dump or landfill-the waste was ground again during the dumping process as it went thru the screw mechanism again-think it would be mulch at that point.
On the TL Neptune-would be interesting to see the relibility factor of these machines as more go into use out there.Will they last or be food for those hungry "Krushers"?could those be added to their diet.I don't think I will buy one.-Don't want to find out the hard and expensive way.
On the TL Neptune-would be interesting to see the relibility factor of these machines as more go into use out there.Will they last or be food for those hungry "Krushers"?could those be added to their diet.I don't think I will buy one.-Don't want to find out the hard and expensive way.
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Tolivac, the rear tailgate on the Rotopress opens at the top in the conventional manner, thereby getting the feed cone/screw out of the way, so the load just comes out through an unobstructed opening. These will probably eventually become popular in the USA for collecting recyclable paper and for collecting compostable yard wastes in suburbs. One wouldn't use them for grinding up refrigerators, since that would enable CFCs to leak into the atmosphere.
Next time I have a design project for recycling hardware I'll go look up your CRT site there. I have one more invention for that industry from my 1983 design project, which is a partitioned container system that no one else has gotten before or since. Hmm...
Back to GE here: GE dryer, GTR-11-AAP, with a persistent intermittent squeak. It may be that the felt bearing is breaking down. In which case, how difficult is that to replace? And what's the best way for getting the whole thing apart to do it, after getting the top off? Does the drum have to be removed, and does the heater have to come out in order to do that? Or should it be taken in to an appliance service center to have a pro do it?
Next time I have a design project for recycling hardware I'll go look up your CRT site there. I have one more invention for that industry from my 1983 design project, which is a partitioned container system that no one else has gotten before or since. Hmm...
Back to GE here: GE dryer, GTR-11-AAP, with a persistent intermittent squeak. It may be that the felt bearing is breaking down. In which case, how difficult is that to replace? And what's the best way for getting the whole thing apart to do it, after getting the top off? Does the drum have to be removed, and does the heater have to come out in order to do that? Or should it be taken in to an appliance service center to have a pro do it?
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Yes-thats a point-one cannot throw fridges,ACs or other things containing CFC's into grinders,shredders and compactors unless they have been "vampired"the refrigerant collected from them and not released into the atmosphere.I was wondereing about the screw-cone mechanism on the tailgate-that is then raised with the tailgate.So--the debris isn't ground twice after all.It makes sense to use it for paper,cardboard and such-make it easier for the hydrapulper at the pulp recycling plant.Less work for that to do.The big peices of paper and cardboard would be broken up by the Rotopress.That also sounds like a good idea to use the Rotopress to collect and shred yard waste.Could eliminate the noisey houshold(and dangerous)gas powered shredders for that purpose-Wish it would make a stop at my house-got LOTS of that for it-the icestorm several days ago "pruned" several of my trees.Could also eliminate the need for the "tub shredder" at the landfill or recycler plant to grind the waste as well.
Come to think of it-my GE dryer is starting to make squealing noises---could it be the drum idler wheels as well?Thought those could make squeaky noises as their bearings wear.Seems like any GE dryer makes some sort of squeals as they run.Another thought for that Rotopress-could someone use it to collect "confedential" materials with it and use it to shred them so thay cannot be used or read.There are seervices that use "Shredder" trucks for that purpose-a company --Shred-Tech makes them.I wonder if the RotoPress could shred the material enough for that prupose as well.Maybe we should be sales agents for them??
Yes-thats a point-one cannot throw fridges,ACs or other things containing CFC's into grinders,shredders and compactors unless they have been "vampired"the refrigerant collected from them and not released into the atmosphere.I was wondereing about the screw-cone mechanism on the tailgate-that is then raised with the tailgate.So--the debris isn't ground twice after all.It makes sense to use it for paper,cardboard and such-make it easier for the hydrapulper at the pulp recycling plant.Less work for that to do.The big peices of paper and cardboard would be broken up by the Rotopress.That also sounds like a good idea to use the Rotopress to collect and shred yard waste.Could eliminate the noisey houshold(and dangerous)gas powered shredders for that purpose-Wish it would make a stop at my house-got LOTS of that for it-the icestorm several days ago "pruned" several of my trees.Could also eliminate the need for the "tub shredder" at the landfill or recycler plant to grind the waste as well.
Come to think of it-my GE dryer is starting to make squealing noises---could it be the drum idler wheels as well?Thought those could make squeaky noises as their bearings wear.Seems like any GE dryer makes some sort of squeals as they run.Another thought for that Rotopress-could someone use it to collect "confedential" materials with it and use it to shred them so thay cannot be used or read.There are seervices that use "Shredder" trucks for that purpose-a company --Shred-Tech makes them.I wonder if the RotoPress could shred the material enough for that prupose as well.Maybe we should be sales agents for them??
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Revopak
Some good websites to try out for some Revopak material: check out the wikipedia article (below), also there are some videos on the following Yahoo group:
http:groups.yahoo.comgroupCrushingGarbage2
oh, and here is a pic of one about to destroy a refrigerator
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Some good websites to try out for some Revopak material: check out the wikipedia article (below), also there are some videos on the following Yahoo group:
http:groups.yahoo.comgroupCrushingGarbage2
oh, and here is a pic of one about to destroy a refrigerator
Revopak - Wikipedia
Hope they "vampired" the condemned first-but that pix could have been taken before the new EPA laws went into effect.At one shooting range I used to go to out here(The Sandpit)They used to have Fridge "condemened to test your guns on.Then the bulldozer would push the holed fridge into a pit.sometimes I salvaged parts from machines before they got it!Was before the EPA rules.Now the place is a housing development.It was a sandmine-the owners didn't mind the shooting,and a dump-figured the mine operator used the dead appliances as "fill" for the mined areas.At one part of the range there was wooden shelves pistol shooters would put bottles on-then grind them to collet!!The neighboring glass factory could have used it for collet-ground recycled glass.Definetly don't walk around there barefoot. Miss that place was good for an afternoon of fun and appliance parts.
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Tried the webaddress for the Yahoo group-doesn't work-wanted to see the pix and film clips.The link worked OK.
Tried the webaddress for the Yahoo group-doesn't work-wanted to see the pix and film clips.The link worked OK.
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Crushing Garbage
Well the Revopak picture was taken in 1973 which was long before any EPA laws on the disposal of appliances came into effect. The picture is actually a frame grab from a S&D sales video that I have, and as the big teeth come down and shred the fridge, there is no big release of refrigerant....although it would probably have popped once more stuff had been compacted against it.
This link definately works for the Crushing Garbage 2 site:
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Well the Revopak picture was taken in 1973 which was long before any EPA laws on the disposal of appliances came into effect. The picture is actually a frame grab from a S&D sales video that I have, and as the big teeth come down and shred the fridge, there is no big release of refrigerant....although it would probably have popped once more stuff had been compacted against it.
This link definately works for the Crushing Garbage 2 site:
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NEW GE FRONT LOADERS
If you go to thread#1324,you will be able to see GE's new front loading models.
If you go to thread#1324,you will be able to see GE's new front loading models.
"This thread started out with you asking about GE washers and ends with a huge technical discussion of Krushers. I an LMAO because I think this pretty much settles what everyone on this board thinks of GE top load washers. I think even the Frigidaire top loaders get more respect around here."
SO true, well the Frigidaire top loaders, IMO, are slightely better than the GE's. At least Frigidaire's has a somewhat decent brake (nothing like Maytag's or Whirlpools, but oh well, it works).
In fact, I think most Frigidaires, until recently, didn't have a brake. Just that lid lock to lock the lid until the basket coasted to a stop.
SO true, well the Frigidaire top loaders, IMO, are slightely better than the GE's. At least Frigidaire's has a somewhat decent brake (nothing like Maytag's or Whirlpools, but oh well, it works).
In fact, I think most Frigidaires, until recently, didn't have a brake. Just that lid lock to lock the lid until the basket coasted to a stop.
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Frigidaire TL's still didn't have a brake last time I checked Lowe's (3 weeks ago). They're more reliable and fun than Plastic GE's though...although it still doesn't beat a 1-18 or Unimatic...
Sorry, Westy, missed your post. I have 6 1994 GE's in my 'mat. Except for an occasional pump leak and an oil seal failure on the transmissions, I have had no problems. These washers are an absolute snap to work on, so I'm glad they are there and I have no plans on replacing them. My customers love them. $1.75 per load, which is the same that I charge for my Wascomat Doubleloaders.
There is a big ad in the latest issue of American Coin-Op saying that GE wants to reclaim their place at the laundromat table. I wouldn't write them off quite yet.
There is a big ad in the latest issue of American Coin-Op saying that GE wants to reclaim their place at the laundromat table. I wouldn't write them off quite yet.
