whitekingd
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Tacoma - Seattle sucks for dating!! I wish some nice guys would move up here!
Where are the nice men at in this area?
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toggleswitch2
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Good and evil are everywhere.
In what "stores" are you shopping? If you want Norstrom's or Macy's or Burdine's quality get out of Target!
And by that I mean there are certainly good ones in your area, but where are you looking?
In what "stores" are you shopping? If you want Norstrom's or Macy's or Burdine's quality get out of Target!
And by that I mean there are certainly good ones in your area, but where are you looking?
OMG if I lived as close as you do to AW member KenB I'd be all over him.
Don't get me started on Seattleites.....
People here are generally more passive-aggressive than in other parts of the country. You need to learn how to embrace our disfuntion. ;-)
Personally, I met John the old-fashioned way: Drunk, in a leather bar. It's worked for us so far.
People here are generally more passive-aggressive than in other parts of the country. You need to learn how to embrace our disfuntion. ;-)
Personally, I met John the old-fashioned way: Drunk, in a leather bar. It's worked for us so far.
Hmmm, dalangdon . . .
I love your story! I spent many years getting drunk in leather bars, not to mention IML even, but it never worked for me. Now I've come to realize that cruising the net is both cheaper and better for one's liver.
To be honest it seems as if there really aren't that many eligible men once you reach 40 or so, mostly the world seems full of guys who are partered but want a little something on the side.
I love your story! I spent many years getting drunk in leather bars, not to mention IML even, but it never worked for me. Now I've come to realize that cruising the net is both cheaper and better for one's liver.
To be honest it seems as if there really aren't that many eligible men once you reach 40 or so, mostly the world seems full of guys who are partered but want a little something on the side.
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partnered and on the side
OMG, the personals around here, in the central shenandoah valley are full of the "discreet" "by" and "whatever." I've tried it all, am too old now to deal with it all, would actually just like a "friend" who I could lie in bed with naked, talk and forget about the sex part.
Where do you meet good guys who aren't married to another male or a female? People say go to church, join clubs, go shopping, etc. It's always the same old shit--they want a quick restroom or after church after brunch BJ. Whatever!!!
I'm done with it all.
Courtney in Virginia
OMG, the personals around here, in the central shenandoah valley are full of the "discreet" "by" and "whatever." I've tried it all, am too old now to deal with it all, would actually just like a "friend" who I could lie in bed with naked, talk and forget about the sex part.
Where do you meet good guys who aren't married to another male or a female? People say go to church, join clubs, go shopping, etc. It's always the same old shit--they want a quick restroom or after church after brunch BJ. Whatever!!!
I'm done with it all.
Courtney in Virginia
toggleswitch2
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LOL ROFL LMAO. STOP IT!
Sometimes a good satisfying meal is not about the fish or the meat and potatoes. It's about the unexpected and rich little side dishes.
oh man, what is the name of that website advertised on the Howard Stern show on SIRRIUS satelite radio for marrieds to fornicate and shapren their adultery skills. Like a woman's name.....
Sometimes a good satisfying meal is not about the fish or the meat and potatoes. It's about the unexpected and rich little side dishes.
oh man, what is the name of that website advertised on the Howard Stern show on SIRRIUS satelite radio for marrieds to fornicate and shapren their adultery skills. Like a woman's name.....
Courtney and hydralique, I significantly feel your pain. I didn't start trying to find someone until I was 47 and 7 years later, I've given up hope. And I"m not gonna settle for just sex and quickies. It hurts, I know I'm a catch, but nobody wants someone like me these days. And Courtney, I love the "friend" idea, sounds wonderful, I've never even had that. I've heard it referred to as a Cuddle Date. Sigh. Now I"m depressed. Glad I'm doing laundry and loading the dishwasher.
toggleswitch2
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While I was single recently I really enjoyed a massage buddy.
Down to underwear and never crossed the line.
Down to underwear and never crossed the line.
partnered and on the side indeed
On this side of the pond it's the same thing! I love cuddle dates and massage dates as too but it looks like I'm a rare species in my part of this country.
Never give up hope though, y'all need to think positive!
Louis
On this side of the pond it's the same thing! I love cuddle dates and massage dates as too but it looks like I'm a rare species in my part of this country.
Never give up hope though, y'all need to think positive!
Louis
speed_queen75
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I am a firm believer
That relationships, are for only a select few of gay men, i would give my left nut to be in a relationship, i have done it all, clubs, bars, shopping, love spells, you name it i have tried it, I feel your pain whitekingd, i too live in a shit hole town with absolutely no potential, seems all the "queers" here are closeted, shallow, or married. So i have com to the conclusion the is is not meant to be for me to find a man, now i am depressed, I'm gonna go play with my 72 LK...
That relationships, are for only a select few of gay men, i would give my left nut to be in a relationship, i have done it all, clubs, bars, shopping, love spells, you name it i have tried it, I feel your pain whitekingd, i too live in a shit hole town with absolutely no potential, seems all the "queers" here are closeted, shallow, or married. So i have com to the conclusion the is is not meant to be for me to find a man, now i am depressed, I'm gonna go play with my 72 LK...
I'm by no means an expert here (didn't come out until about 3 yrs ago...I'm 44) but keeping yourself out there (even in a small town) is vital. Out there does NOT mean on the internet (AW.org or manhunt or bear411 or whatever) but involved in multiple circles in the community. Here in bigger cities (Detroit), there are lots of circles which I'm aware of: music (a couple of gay mens' choruses, also a transpersons chorus, not to mention symphony/opera/etc). drama (community theater, legit theater, etc), religion (MCC churches, Dignity (gay Catholics), Integrity (gay Episcopalians)..., sports (bowling leagues, softball leagues, rugby, swim teams), chamber-of-commerces, etc etc.
Finally, make sure you're comfortable w/yourself and comfortable with expressing your wishes in a relationship. A couple of organizations I found helpful: www.mkp.org, and www.bodyelectric.org.
Finally, make sure you're comfortable w/yourself and comfortable with expressing your wishes in a relationship. A couple of organizations I found helpful: www.mkp.org, and www.bodyelectric.org.
toggleswitch2
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EUREKA.
Honestly there are not many things in life that shock me. This does.
There is nothing and nobody worth the risk of losing it all for a quickie. Or the risk of endandering your health.
Honestly there are not many things in life that shock me. This does.
There is nothing and nobody worth the risk of losing it all for a quickie. Or the risk of endandering your health.
michaelman2
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Toggle, that site is really an eye opener, pardon the pun. Actually it is sad.
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That is why
I am saying that in today's times it's impossible, to find and have a good and faithful relationship, both gay and straight have their trials, however i believe that it's harder in gay relationships, " according to the statistic reports" to be faithful. That is why i have given up on ever finding some one, i see all these guys on here in their 40-50's, which by now are mature in mind, and are single, that tells me that it's almost impossible to believe that i or you will ever have some one. To jamiel here where i live there are hardly no "gay" social events, the only one that i know of are mostly all partnered but they claim it to be a "singles" event, LOL and it's lame. So there ya have it, i guess i'll be single and taking what i can when i can for a LOONNGG time..
I am saying that in today's times it's impossible, to find and have a good and faithful relationship, both gay and straight have their trials, however i believe that it's harder in gay relationships, " according to the statistic reports" to be faithful. That is why i have given up on ever finding some one, i see all these guys on here in their 40-50's, which by now are mature in mind, and are single, that tells me that it's almost impossible to believe that i or you will ever have some one. To jamiel here where i live there are hardly no "gay" social events, the only one that i know of are mostly all partnered but they claim it to be a "singles" event, LOL and it's lame. So there ya have it, i guess i'll be single and taking what i can when i can for a LOONNGG time..
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ounds more like the outcome of a long term relationship to sme!!! Keep up the good fight and that special person will just fall out of no where. That hss been my experience.
ounds more like the outcome of a long term relationship to sme!!! Keep up the good fight and that special person will just fall out of no where. That hss been my experience.
Lee, the world is filled with people who wait their entire lives for Mr. or Ms. Right to 'just fall out of nowhere', and the reality is that it never happens for a lot (even most) of them. Especially for people who choose to live in rural and sparsely populated areas. Even for hetero couples, over 50% of marriages end in divorce. So they're not having any more luck than gay people in finding life partners. So I have to disagree with Allen in that regard. The more doors you knock on, the sooner one will open.
But he's right about one thing: don't ever give up hope. I'm extremely strange looking, and frankly I'd rather pull out my own fingernails than make smalltalk with people. Yet last January my partner and I celebrated our 20th anniversary together. If it can happen to me it can happen to anyone.
But he's right about one thing: don't ever give up hope. I'm extremely strange looking, and frankly I'd rather pull out my own fingernails than make smalltalk with people. Yet last January my partner and I celebrated our 20th anniversary together. If it can happen to me it can happen to anyone.
ptcruiser51
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When I think things are hopeless
I often use the following to restore my outlook:
I live in a diverse bedroom community about 27 miles from NYC, population about 50,000. Popular estimates (or so I've heard) say 10% of the population is "supposed" to be gay. So let's just say it's only 5%. That equals 2500, right? Of course, half will be women, so that leaves 1250. Of that, a wild guess would be that half of those will be either married, in a relationship, closeted, or have given up looking. Still leaves about 470 in the pool. Being realistic (maybe), let's guess that 75% of those are either creeps, drunks, users, divorced with major child or spousal issues, broke/in debt, cheaters, underage or "other". That STILL leaves at least 150 guys JUST in my town!
There's got to be someone out there for me....
I often use the following to restore my outlook:
I live in a diverse bedroom community about 27 miles from NYC, population about 50,000. Popular estimates (or so I've heard) say 10% of the population is "supposed" to be gay. So let's just say it's only 5%. That equals 2500, right? Of course, half will be women, so that leaves 1250. Of that, a wild guess would be that half of those will be either married, in a relationship, closeted, or have given up looking. Still leaves about 470 in the pool. Being realistic (maybe), let's guess that 75% of those are either creeps, drunks, users, divorced with major child or spousal issues, broke/in debt, cheaters, underage or "other". That STILL leaves at least 150 guys JUST in my town!
There's got to be someone out there for me....
