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"I don't want to destroy anyones illusions but Persil is not so good as it always pretends."

Here, it's the only German detergent now widely available.

When I am visiting Germany, I liked the Ariel Compact, and Spee products I tried, but one I really loved, believe it or not, was the very reasonably priced Domol powder from the Rossmann drugstore!

It so happens my aunt is not well, so I may unfortunately need to be over there soon, and I definitely want to buy another box of it, I was so impressed! Persil works well in my American top-loader, so why shouldn't Domol....and a bargain!

What I really didn't like was the Sunil powder for whites and Burti powder for colors....to me, our Tide would definitely outperform them.

My friends and relatives there have given in to my laundry obsession and now have all the laundry products neatly laid out on the kitchen floor for me to examine at length, but they still stare quizzicaly at me and talk quietly among themselves about it, lol!!
 
well, yes, folks do that...

My German friends and relations are still muttering away to themselves about me...and I've lived here for 24 years. I am sorry to hear about your aunt's decline.

Persil in the US seems to be the one we have here in Germany, Ariel is a different product in North America from what I can find out, a lesser product.

I think the Ariel/Persil competition is a bit like saying a cold lasts 7 days with the doctor and one week without. But in a good way.

Sunil has never impressed me at the price. Their damned tabs just sit in my detergent drawer and have to be broken up...where they then just sit in the tub.

Spee is good stuff, and there is a story behind it. It is a very old brand name and when Germany was divided, the GDR continued to produce and market it, tho' the quality was nowhere near that of the modern Western detergents. After reunification, for a pleasant change, the brand name was kept on, reformulated to modern levels and the advertising spiffed up. Lots of ads of a cute young guy doing the laundry while the old biddies look on, astonished that a) a man can use a washer and b) he gets things clean.
The current series is about getting things "mama clean without mama and saving money at the same time." See the link. Wish they'd bring back the cute guy...but I do like the fox.
Spee costs less than many other brand name detergents. I like it, but my Bavarian friends all turn their noses up at it as being inferior. Germany is very provencial about these things.

Burti is really useless, I agree. But expensive, darn they sell that stuff for a fortune. I find hair shampoo works better for that sort of delicate cleaning.

The Schlecker and Tenglemann store brands work well. Never tried Domol, have to give it a whirl.

 
"I am sorry to hear about your aunt's decline."

Thank you so much. If she makes it, she will turn 86 at month end, has advanced Parkinson's and a host of other age-related stuff going on, and is having a hard time of it. My mom is here, is 79, and frustrated she cannot help. My aunt was a professor at Heidelberg, like many women of the war generation, they can both be strong-willed and stubborn, and their relationship is tumultuous. She's currently in what you could call an assisted-living facility, is more like a country club would seem like here, but the care is incredible, warm, and loving, you wouldn't believe it. After she passes, I will possibly take a leave and stay there for awhile, to deal with the Beamte (bureaucracies) that my mother is simply not patient enough to deal with.

Sorry to carry on like this. I"m actually very upset right now, because my aunt is really no longer able to speak by telephone, and it's just so shocking although we've had years to prepare....

"After reunification, for a pleasant change, the brand name was kept on, reformulated to modern levels and the advertising spiffed up."

Yep, "Ostprodukte". Back in the 70s, when we would visit Dresden, you'd see the very plain, black-and-white boxes of Spee....fast-forward to the 90's, and it's this Henkel product, with snappy yellow graphics and a very distinct brand identity you KNOW had to be intended for some very specific demographics, so different from the "Wessi" Persil!

Florena products are a similar success story, once Beiersdorf snapped the name up. I actually prefer their shampoos and lotions, because they have simpler, cleaner formulas than Nivea products seem to.

I don't predict the DDR-era cars or washing machines, will make a comeback, however!

Everything is cyclical, though, and after a fashion, "Ami-Nostalgie" will become the next European craze, and Orange Crush, David Hasselhoff CDs, Hummers, Dickies barn coats, Hershey's Mr. Goodbar, and, yes, Tide with Bleach will be the latest rage in every German mall and hypermarket!

It's as predictable as Armageddon....:)
 
The German detergents

Ok, I see you know about other german detergents like domol, Spee etc.

Well Spee is also from Henkel. In Germany, Henkel sells 3 detergents:

1. Persil - their flagship
2. Weißer Riese - a detergent which is a bit cheaper
3. Spee - which is the cheapest brand of all three brands.

After Henkel, Persil is their best detergent, Spee the worst (They would never say that Spee is a bad detergent but it is the cheapest, so it does not offer the cleaning comfort of Persil)

Something funny: In the last detergent-test (they tested detergent for whites) Spee did better than Persil. Henkel protested and said that this cannot be possible. I laughed when I saw the results.

A great problem for the big enterprises like Henkel and P&G is, that consumers buy more and more the store brands like AS from Schlecker or domol from Rossmann. They wash really good and they are cheap.

AS seems to be very good but I never bought it because I do not agree with Schleckers way they treat their employees. Schlecker is one of the worst employers in Germany.

I had the domol from Rossmann two times and in my opinion it cleaned not so well like other detergents.

Ok and Sunil is really sh**. Several changes of the formulation caused nothing, the cleaning results are still bad and Burti...I think it is not very good but I never so used so far.

Greetz, Flo
 
Mr Wash

good point you make there about the lesser costing detergent out performing the flagship brand. Here in the UK which tested major detergents and found Surf, a budget brand of Unilever to give whiter whites than Unilever Persil. Surf even gave whiter whites than Ariel although what I remember is stain removal was not as good as either. Currently im torn between using Surf over persil on whites. The stain removal is no issue to myself. Whereas The whitest whites are. Sadly Surf has a market following along with Daz and Bold with a Chav attitude to them. Thats what puts me off.
 
Dixan

Louis was so kind as to send me some Dixan and not only does it clean as well as Persil, but it has a beautiful different fragrance as well. Never over-sudsing problems and we have very soft water here.
 
Hey guys,

today I got a little packet from my relatives in the USA.
A few weeks ago, I was speaking to them about washing in american washers and about detergent (especially about Tide) overseas.
So, what was in the packet?
Noooo, there wasn´t an american washer, BUT there was some Tide.
Really like the smell of it, it´s a very pleasant smell!
Well, I´m sorry for all those who wanted to change Tide with me!

greetings Nino!
 

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