which new F/L take in the "MOST" water .......

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Rich, the door is supposed to remain locked during the soak cycle even if the pause button is pushed simply for the above reason--no water flowing out the door when opened.

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Appnut -

What you are saying is maybe true for some machines, but it is not true for my machine. The "Add a garment" light stays on for the first part of the Auto Soak and I have pushed the pause button and added garments with no problem.

I should point out that the water does not come to the bottom of the glass every auto soak, only some of the times. I think it must have to do with how the clothes position themselves as the drum is filling with water. I would say a majority of the times the water is not high enough to come out the door.
 
sweat

"Just as ladies never sweat, but glisten. "

I've heard the statement "horses sweat, people perspire"
 
Front Loaders

Pardon me, but I am old school....a front loader should have water rise above the bottom of the window....so I will stick with vintage front loaders and for modern machines, my top loading norge-tag...great capacity tub and PLENTY of water to get clothes clean....and remove cat hair
 
Front Loaders

And as if it wasn't bad enough to make front loaders without enough water in the tub, phosphates were removed from american detergents....thank goodness for mexican detergents with phosphates and they are available throughout the southwest...what else will someone think of to ruin doing laundry!!!!
 
hey guys,
another point. for those of you have seen the videos of my hoover logic i posted, my machine does something which no current machine i have come across does; aswell as having high water levels. it distributes for spin with a tub full of water,which i've nicknamed "power distribution" which pins the items against the sides of the drum with a hell of a lot of water still in the drum. which for my money,assists greatly with rinsing as it really drives the water through. i also find it helps balance the load great too! 9/10 times its balances first time. if not it dances around as theres no balance sensor lol. unlike modern machines i've come across which drain,tumble a bit & "attempt" to spin.

the point im tryin to make is. older machines are far superior. though don't get me wrong. i love aeg which i've had for 3years. its packed full of features but at the same time it has increased water levels & a jet. which i like.

i'm currently bidding on ebay uk for the later "New Wave" model which has electronic controls,front filling from the top of the seal, & spin during the wash cycle! which is about 300rpm i think or 400 i forget. it's also a washerdryer. im just hoping it does the distribution too. i can't remember if these machines do it.

thort i'd share a pic of the machine i'm bidding on to:) enjoy

anyhoo that was the point i wanted to share:D

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Pet hair is an interesting counterexample to the usual rule of less (water) is more (efficient).

Seems to me the best way to get rid of pet hair is to remove it with air rather than with water, since when wet it tends to stick to everything. So how'bout this: Before washing, run for five minutes in the tumble dryer on "air fluff" mode (no heat) just to loosen and remove the pet hair. Then into the washer and see if there's any more pet hair left to come out (e.g. a GE Filter Flo or equivalent, with the lint-catcher on the agitator post, so you can examine the fluff balls for pet hair).

Re. vehicles: Dodge Caravan minivan, which I need in order to haul equipment & coworkers around, but is more efficient than a regular-size van. 25 to 27 mpg highway depending on speed, as of last time I checked (a couple months ago).
 
Spinning with water in the tub

My Zanussi IZ does this during the low-level rinsing on cotton cycle...while the jet is spraying water on clothes!
The rinse action is not so good anyway because of the low water level, so I set the machine to a low spin (600rpm) in order to have a higher level rinsing.
 
Although I agree that a lot of modern frontloaders are very frugal with water I also think that people who are used to washing in a toploader have to get used to the quantity of water frontloaders use. Frontloaders wash with water, not in water.

BTW, Whirlpool already that in 1958. You can see that in the movie "The Wonderful World of Wash and Wear". I posted a link to it in the Super forum, in the link about the Prelinger Archive. Go there!
 
thanks for sharing and comments

thanks all for the feedback, it is helpful and interesting too
 
Higher water levels in a Miele

HI everyone,
as Jon mentioned i helped him set the high water level rinse permenantly. All Miele washers allow you to do this. Before the customer could programme it in, but now you have to call a service tech to do it for you. I have the W487WPS and it rinses very well with 3 rinses, 2 rinses do a good job too if I do laundry that's not absorbent. The water plus can be programmed to give you the extra rinse. Nathan what Miele did you buy? I thought you were going to wait for the new model or did you get the W1986.

 
A W2515

Hi Rod,

After reading the reviews on the large capacity models, they werent rated nearly as well. Choice give one of the 5.5kg models a 94% the W1986 was rated at about 78%. I decided that I'd go for it with the W2515. So far I havent found any appreciable difference in load size from the TL.

I've found that the interval spins help a lot in suds extraction. If I have a load larger than the rated capacity (IE 2.5kg) on a cycle other the cottons, I find that the spin bursts or no intervals spins end up with lots more suds in the final rinse even with Water Plus turned on in its standard form. Quite often its only the fabric softener that makes the suds dissappear.

Other than that I've found so far that my whites are much brighter, Deoderant stains on shirts are fading and there is less wrinkling to iron out. I love the machine :)

My msn is [email protected] if you'd like to chat?

Regards

Nathan
 
Congrats

Hi Nathan,
you are becoming a real Miele convert. I knew the capacity wouldn't be too much of an issue. Anyone who has had an 8kg toplader finds the capacity more than enough in the Miele. You can programme in an additional rinse with the water plus function, which I have done with mine. I find the automatic programme good for mixed loads. Do you use the intensive option or have you left it with the rapid default? Yes whites do become much brighter without the use of bleach.
Regards
Rod
 

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